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nice thread lol ! ima post my comments bout it soon

Originally posted by: mink

Nice debate.....I have to read the whole post but Minnie nice ex. lol 😆😆tell me who said this for AB did it happen in IF😉 was that member banned or not.

😆..LOL,that was a hypothetical example that was cited...😆

So,you mean to say members need to banned for making fun of stars' performances😲😭😭

Originally posted by: Buffie

😆..LOL,that was a hypothetical example that was cited...😆

So,you mean to say members need to banned for making fun of stars' performances😲😭😭

😆😆.....I know it was a hypothetical ex.😉 just pulling her. But in the past I know people have been warned not sure abt banned for making some funny statement about star performances. Well, vohi err wali baat😉

Originally posted by: Minnie

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some requests are made,which are from the vocal members,and they are upset regarding something; This is a tricky time. So now,say,the mod complies and agrees to the members who requested her to make this change. Now, this upsets another set of people,who are not that vocal but equally active and interested, and now they surface, demanding that this exception be removed right away. This is where it gets tricky. No we have 20 members who want 'A' which is the exception to which the mod agreed, and the another 20 who oppose the 'A' and start writing to other dev team members because the mod refuses to rethink on her decision,or take steps to address the basic issue,instead of simply doing what a group of members want.

That is where now the rest of the dev team steps in. Now if you are a mod, you have few choices. So you right away go back to the rules.....to see how much this exception is in compliance of the rules...........now we call in for a majority decision. Here no one is right or wrong. When the exception was made,at that time it was perhaps the best thing to do. But now,when it's time to reverse,that is perhaps the best thing to do for (a) That is what rules tell us; (b) the 20 set of people who were upset had their say and were rewarded; Now the other 20 set need to be addressed to; (c) The majority of the mods feel that reversing the exception is as of now best course of action (d) We talk it out with the members,and chances are, 10 of the original 20 group start feeling that yes,there could be another solution this than the one that had been taken.

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well minnie this is a break even situation.... now what if its 40 :20 instead of 20:20.....

1) so shouldnt the majority be considered? i mean is it worth taking a risk of keeping few happy and others unhappy.....

2) how much does the forum value members in this scenario?

3) what if the members leave ..are there any immediate steps taken ? if not why?

4) Shouldnt the logo "Forum needs members " be more loud and clear instead of vice versa....

i have few more 😆 but learning to be more patient😆

Originally posted by: abhijit shukla

I second that. Some times jokes do not come out right and turn into a sour thing. Like when Hillary joked about Gandhi ji working at a patrol pump in St. Louise. A bad joke is not neccesssarily an insult.

Ya, I get your point . Remember PepsiCo President and Now CEO Indra Nooyi compared the U.S. to the middle finger on a hand during a speech to Columbia MBA graduates . She employed the metaphor of a hand and compared America's reputation to that of the middle finger. "If used inappropriately - just like the U.S. itself - the middle finger can convey a negative image," she said. WoW ! The fizz followed......The analogy set off a firestorm Many challenged her patriotism…. Others suggested she return to India, where she was born . Some made the knee-jerk threat of a product boycott. But she maintained that by using the analogy of a human hand to illustrate that people in Countries around the globe need to join together to make the world work in harmony. Anyway Ms. Nooyi had to give an appology & she said that she was misconstrued .

Pepsi did not throw her out or give any warning to her I guess 😉rather they understood her point and today she is the CEO of Pepsi.😊

We don't just go on banning members! We take alot of thought into the issue and foreshadow whether it will be a problem in the future! Although everyone is given so many chances, and when the warnings are used up, we think alot about the banning issue! We don't run any poltics or government, we try to think and take qise decisions that may not always be the best decision, but near the most sensible! If you have any other questions, you may feel free to ask 😛

I think the tension increases between members and Mods, when the mods become stricter, less forgiving, or more rules are made.
As humans, we need room to breathe, and when we start to feel suffocated we raise our voice.

But the mods can give us only so much space, if someone abuses their "space", it will be taken away. After all they have responsibilities in IF.

Either way, both members and mods need to understand each other.

👏 nice topic i don't know if there always right

Originally posted by: ritzbitz

well minnie this is a break even situation.... now what if its 40 :20 instead of 20:20.....

1) so shouldnt the majority be considered? i mean is it worth taking a risk of keeping few happy and others unhappy.....

The scenario shall always be the same. It's not about keeping one party happy, or the other unhappy. We are at this juncture not thinking of keeping anyone happy. In fact it is not even considered. Here,what is considered is whatever the steps taken, are they in compliance with what IF has laid down......and then steps are taken to set things right. If members say that we don't want a member posting a topic ( say the topic is valid - member xyz has posted about 'neuclear energy resource use' topic in Debate Mansion ) but she is being rude to whoever goes against her view, then we don't close the topic, we warn her to behave. Here no matter how many want that topic to be closed because she is behaving badly, the topic remains, and she gets warned. Normally, such a member starts behaving after the first serious warning. We have a system of warning which is hidden from the rest of the members. At first we warn in mild form,either by pm, or by posting right on the forum telling what's wrong in the post. Then,if she does not heed, we start raising warning meter, right upto 80%,and then we ban. Banning normally is the last option.

Originally posted by: ritzbitz

2) how much does the forum value members in this scenario? [/Quote]

Let me ask you..how many forums have you come across where moderators actually sit down and talk to members for hours or days together,trying to explain why something which has been done has been done..........or give explainations or explain rules; have a report box where you can file grieviance, and consider rethinking decisions to see if other options can possibly be explored ????

The value of members shall always remain the same. But it cannot be one sided. Members are free to post in the forum, but within certain guidelines. It works both ways. As long as they know where and how to conduct, our paths as a moderator and a member seldom,if ever,cross. But if they do not behave or make unreasonable demands, then our realm of responsibility is to let them know what can or cannot be done. IF strives to create a clean and safe environment for the members to post, but not really play up to the gallery. If so, then there are hundreds of other forums out there,where you can post anything, and anything means anything, and the forum simply shakes off it's responsibility saying it is not responsible for what it's members do in the forum. We cannot possibly make everyone happy, but what we can do is to give everyone an equal chance. But our USP lies in the fact that we deal with each member individually, explaining whats and whys of the forum till our fingers wear thin.......

So we do not stop, cannot stop members from posting,as long as it is not hurtful or negative post creating negative energy. We do not rule members, simply guide them;If they agree with our viewpoint, then they happily stay; If they leave, it's unfortunate.

minnie ji ... 👏

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