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Posted: 12 years ago
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I dont have any knowledge about this matter what so ever..

Onlu thing tht i knw is that Islam is NOT about killing innocent people.. It is written in our Quran tht killing one innocent life is as if u hve killed the whole of mankind.. Same for saving an innocent life, it is like saving the whole of mankind... The religion of the person killed or saved is not written in the Ayat(sentence).. This proves tht Islam does NOT promote killing infact it promotes humanity..

For those who r killing innocent people in the name of Islam.. They r not following the guidelines of being a Muslim.. They dont have any right to call their act an Islamic one.. I would request the post to be free of anti-Islamic content bcoz Islam doesnt give us the right to kill anyone who refuses to become a Muslim..

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hey look i'm a muslim too,n i didn't write anything agaist that religion i just quoted what Tasleema Nasreen tweeted n i want to know the views of u all

Originally posted by: sunset60

I dont have any knowledge about this matter what so ever..

Onlu thing tht i knw is that Islam is NOT about killing innocent people.. It is written in our Quran tht killing one innocent life is as if u hve killed the whole of mankind.. Same for saving an innocent life, it is like saving the whole of mankind... The religion of the person killed or saved is not written in the Ayat(sentence).. This proves tht Islam does NOT promote killing infact it promotes humanity..

For those who r killing innocent people in the name of Islam.. They r not following the guidelines of being a Muslim.. They dont have any right to call their act an Islamic one.. I would request the post to be free of anti-Islamic content bcoz Islam doesnt give us the right to kill anyone who refuses to become a Muslim..

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunset60

I dont have any knowledge about this matter what so ever..

Onlu thing tht i knw is that Islam is NOT about killing innocent people.. It is written in our Quran tht killing one innocent life is as if u hve killed the whole of mankind.. Same for saving an innocent life, it is like saving the whole of mankind... The religion of the person killed or saved is not written in the Ayat(sentence).. This proves tht Islam does NOT promote killing infact it promotes humanity..

For those who r killing innocent people in the name of Islam.. They r not following the guidelines of being a Muslim.. They dont have any right to call their act an Islamic one.. I would request the post to be free of anti-Islamic content bcoz Islam doesnt give us the right to kill anyone who refuses to become a Muslim..


True; that is what my muslim friends tell me. I have often wondered and can't seem to understand why there are so many unhappy muslims. What in your opinion causes people of Islam to turn to terrorism in such large nmbers?

I accept that other religions also have some people that commit violent acts, but they are usually contained and relatively small. The Islamic terrorists have made it organized and have an extensive network that takes care of everything from funding to execution. Sort of like running a businnes. That is what boggles me!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I didnt say that u said anything inappropriate.. I was clear about the fact tht u were quoting some1 else.. I didnt like the things in the quoted tweet.
I just didnt want anything negative to be written about Islam over here.. Thats y i wanted to make things clear..

I never said anything to u.. Hope u understand...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Frigate

True; that is what my muslim friends tell me. I have often wondered and can't seem to understand why there are so many unhappy muslims. What in your opinion causes people of Islam to turn to terrorism in such large nmbers?


I accept that other religions also have some people that commit violent acts, but they are usually contained and relatively small. The Islamic terrorists have made it organized and have an extensive network that takes care of everything from funding to execution. Sort of like running a businnes. That is what boggles me!


This reminded me of something that I heard on the NPR yesterday, where they were talking about how terrorists are recruited. The kids who go into terrorism do so because they are given wrong information about Islam.. and they think they are doing the right thing. Recruiting happens in school cafeterias, in return for meals even it seems 😲 The speaker was explaining how people should learn about their religion and teach their kids what is right and wrong before they hear something wrong .. same as what we talk about sex. Better to hear it from the people who care about them, than ones who are there to get you into trouble!

Also majority of Muslims live in countries like Indonesia and Malaysia .. and not in the Middle East .. so why do people keep saying Muslims are behind terrorist attacks?

Every religion can be twisted in ways to turn to terrorism, I feel. Doesn't Hinduism talk about dharma .. I guess you could make fighting evil your dharma .. and go kill people 'coz you decided its the right path for you!

Sweets, I doubt any of these terrorists are religious Muslims.. they are just using religion to hide the real cause .. not sure what that is .. unemployment, poverty, frustration ..? And the ones who get recruited.. not sure if they are unhappy .. more like gullible I guess!
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This reminded me of something that I heard on the NPR yesterday, where they were talking about how terrorists are recruited. The kids who go into terrorism do so because they are given wrong information about Islam.. and they think they are doing the right thing. Recruiting happens in school cafeterias, in return for meals even it seems 😲 The speaker was explaining how people should learn about their religion and teach their kids what is right and wrong before they hear something wrong .. same as what we talk about sex. Better to hear it from the people who care about them, than ones who are there to get you into trouble!


None of the above is news to me. We have known all of this for sometime now... The recruiting happens from the poorest sections of the society. They are enticed with money/food/shelter/education...

But again, who is funding it? Surely the rich (ergo, educated; at least somewhat?)! Besides, there are many cases of educated US/UK citizens that have taken up arms "against the kafirs".😲

What you bring up are all excuses for terrorists. The kids get wrong information about Islam, so they become terrorists. If I were to buy that, I would have to ask, why? Why isn't anyone doing something to counteract that? And if they are, why is it not making a difference or not enough of a difference. Surely, we can all conclude that there are far more sane muslims than terrorists,so their collective effort should bear fruit.😕

Also majority of Muslims live in countries like Indonesia and Malaysia .. and not in the Middle East .. so why do people keep saying Muslims are behind terrorist attacks?

People are not saying that muslims are behind terrorist attacks. It just so happens that most times when the cause of a terrorist act is looked into, it leads to terrorists that claim to be doing it in the interest of Islam!

Every religion can be twisted in ways to turn to terrorism, I feel. Doesn't Hinduism talk about dharma .. I guess you could make fighting evil your dharma .. and go kill people 'coz you decided its the right path for you!

I suppose, one could! But, how many such people can you find? I don't want to get into what is "dharma" on this thread, but may be you can put across this question to the Swamiji you will be seeing soon? Would love to know what he says about it.😛


Sweets, I doubt any of these terrorists are religious Muslims.. they are just using religion to hide the real cause .. not sure what that is .. unemployment, poverty, frustration ..? And the ones who get recruited.. not sure if they are unhappy .. more like gullible I guess!

That's a lot of gullible people and one heck of a team of marketers!😆


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Originally posted by: Frigate

None of the above is news to me. We have known all of this for sometime now... The recruiting happens from the poorest sections of the society. They are enticed with money/food/shelter/education...


Yes, but what interested me was the part about wrong info about religions, which is so true and something that I had ever thought about!

But again, who is funding it? Surely the rich (ergo, educated; at least somewhat?)! Besides, there are many cases of educated US/UK citizens that have taken up arms "against the kafirs".😲

😆 I'm sure its the CIA! I wonder where all the money they have been giving countries to stop wars is going to

What you bring up are all excuses for terrorists. The kids get wrong information about Islam, so they become terrorists. If I were to buy that, I would have to ask, why? Why isn't anyone doing something to counteract that? And if they are, why is it not making a difference or not enough of a difference. Surely, we can all conclude that there are far more sane muslims than terrorists,so their collective effort should bear fruit.😕

'coz the ones who are supposed to protect us are too busy make promises and not doing anything about it 😡 The only time they do something is close to elections! But then again I doubt terrorist training could happen in a country with no government support... seems impossible! People in higher places must be supporting and funding all these activities! As for the kids, maybe their parents don't know what they are doing .. wonder how this training happens.. is it residential, in which case won't the parents notice if the kids are away .. or maybe schools are involved and they advertise as a field trip or something! Anyways like you pointed out, definitely people higher up are involved!

People are not saying that muslims are behind terrorist attacks. It just so happens that most times when the cause of a terrorist act is looked into, it leads to terrorists that claim to be doing it in the interest of Islam!

I know.. when the Boston bombings happened I was praying it won't be a muslim, but alas .. once again!

I suppose, one could! But, how many such people can you find? I don't want to get into what is "dharma" on this thread, but may be you can put across this question to the Swamiji you will be seeing soon? Would love to know what he says about it.😛

😆 Yeah, I might.. will let you know at home 😛

That's a lot of gullible people and one heck of a team of marketers!😆

Yup.. and you would think these people could actually put this talent into good use .. Or are they so blind that they can't see what they are doing is wrong?

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