R.I.P our martyrs - Page 12

Originally posted by: silverbug

Playing cricket matches and surkshetra is obviously not working, hopefully folks are taking note. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome is the very definition of insanity. They are trying everything but actually discussing the core problem.

I agree with u nobody is addressing the core issue ...infact i feel nobody will ever do coz both Indian and Pakistani government are spineless

Indian government to busy in exploiting money money money and Pakistani government helping radical Islamists . While people of both country are dying hunger in villages while urban people are dying coz of red tapism and bhai bhatijawad of government

The fact is the actual public of both the countries are in same state.Both government though democratic does not actully represent people

Their are many other things too which i cant state here but the core issue still remains the same Governments please stop fooling people and address the core issues rather then try to fool people by some idiotic commercial strategies like music competitions and cricket match...what do business people want to prove...that Indian people have forgiven pakistani islamist redicalistic organisations for what they did in mumbai !!!!

NO NO NO ...those organisations can never be forgiven for brainwashing kids like kasab and sending them to do such hinious task

I condemn such organisations

We all know those organisations wont be fooled to seeing their pakistani team win of some pakistani contestant win .Infact those organisations must be planning even bigger😡

So Govenment and people of India pls have some guts and give such heartless religious organisations on their face.Any religious organisation which uses violence to to achieve its goal should be condemned by the people of that very own religion

Originally posted by: axeion

All those who have to argue how would we protect our nation can go to hell, you would not find a need to protect your nation if you decide to co-exist, instead of stocking up on weapons that you may not use, but need to make your neighbor feel threatened.

It is very good if all decide to co-exist but even if one country decides to inflitrate other nations, then it becomes necessary for other nations to safeguard their borders. And history teaches us that expecting all to co-exist will be like living in utopia.

Originally posted by: guess_wh0

Racist remark?

I asked him, if he was of Pakistani origin. His silence answered that question for me. Things were put in perspective, for me. Maybe I wouldn't feel bad for Pakistani soldiers, either. That would have been easier than bringing the "Big Picture" and other crap in here. As for Pakistani's, I have more Pakistani friends than Indian friends. One of the most "dildaar" people around. This is about the governments, not the people.

R.I.P to our brave martyrs :(

Originally posted by: axeion

The air strikes on Indian Bases were a side-effect of the Liberation War of '71. And I have to say that I commend the Pakistani Troopers for their quick-thinking. You make your enemies' allies pull-out their forces by diverting their attention. It was not that Pakistan and India were not already at loggerheads, or will never be in the future, but blaming everything on the neighbors is unacceptable. We have had our share of mistakes too, and it's time we stop acting as saints. For those who quote 26/11, my question is... how did someone from an outside nation cross your border? I can only think of two solutions here - One, my nation's BSF is not upto mark, and two, there was someone on the inside helping out. Either ways, there is more that needs to be fixed within ourselves than cribbing about another nation and how they don't let us fix our issues bcoz we are too busy battling them. Naah.No.Nada.

You're contradicting yourself now. You started off by questioning India's role in the 1971 war and then when I gave you the valid reason you downplayed it by saying the attack on India was a mere side effect. Double standards no?

Originally posted by: TheBoss

Dude you just your hit your lowest; why would you accuse me of such rubbish? I have an opinion that simply differs from yours, it has nothing to do with who and what Im. Besides just as you know Im not a pakistani, neither do I have anything to do with pakistan or nor with India.

I simply stated how I feel about those who glorify wars and addressed each of your points constructively, yet you just resorted to personal attacks and name calling despite me asking you to move on just as I did and went on with my life.

You hit your lowest a long time ago, when you implied that as Soldiers they deserved this type of death, because they signed up for it. I still have long ways to go before reaching your level.

We're done. Have a good day.

Originally posted by: axeion

The air strikes on Indian Bases were a side-effect of the Liberation War of '71. And I have to say that I commend the Pakistani Troopers for their quick-thinking. You make your enemies' allies pull-out their forces by diverting their attention. It was not that Pakistan and India were not already at loggerheads, or will never be in the future, but blaming everything on the neighbors is unacceptable. We have had our share of mistakes too, and it's time we stop acting as saints. For those who quote 26/11, my question is... how did someone from an outside nation cross your border? I can only think of two solutions here - One, my nation's BSF is not upto mark, and two, there was someone on the inside helping out. Either ways, there is more that needs to be fixed within ourselves than cribbing about another nation and how they don't let us fix our issues bcoz we are too busy battling them. Naah.No.Nada.

Originally posted by: guess_wh0

Racist remark?

I asked him, if he was of Pakistani origin. His silence answered that question for me. Things were put in perspective, for me. Maybe I wouldn't feel bad for Pakistani soldiers, either. That would have been easier than bringing the "Big Picture" and other crap in here. As for Pakistani's, I have more Pakistani friends than Indian friends. One of the most "dildaar" people around. This is about the governments, not the people.

This has nothing to do with him or his opinions. But how would him being a Pakistani or not have anything to do with his opinions. Why are you implying that it can only be someone from a Pakistani descent to have a contrasting viewpoint. I am sure even the Pakistanis of the forum would respect anyone losing their lives for their country. And whether you have Pakistani friends or how didaar they are has nothing to do with the fact that you just judged someone from his comment of being a Pakistani. If you can't see the issue here, then I got nothing more to say.

I just request not to bring countries here in any opinionated way since this forum is filled with people from various backgrounds.

Thats exactly what I thought, and I moved on, but then you conveniently let pass a personal remark against me for no rhyme or reason when in all honesty shouldnt matter or have been brought upon.

Originally posted by: sharpshooter

You're contradicting yourself now. You started off by questioning India's role in the 1971 war and then when I gave you the valid reason you downplayed it by saying the attack on India was a mere side effect. Double standards no?

I think we have a lost in translation here.

You state that the air strikes were the cause of Indian involvement in the 1971 war.

Axeion states that the air strikers were the result of Indian involvement in the 1971 war.

Both of you now need to provide citations to confirm whose claim is true.

If anyone asks, I'm Korean.