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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: Aparna_BD

Ya Soumya not just privacy ...........but the insenstivity when you got
to a gynaec . Nurses while getting you ready for an
exam............they see you very stiff and uncomfortable say stuff
like " you should be used to it now being a married woman" ......and
some other stuff i don't want to mention here". I want to cry at such
stuff !!


The reason for this is that they are not properly trained to handle sensitive issues. They sort of take the patient fro granted.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Also, I am not sure about what level of education is needed to be a nurse in India. I have seen some nurse being really rude and the way they ask you to bear pain etc. like Aparna mentioned above. I have seen many nurse in US take this profession as their passion and interest compared to India where they take it more as to support family and income source even though they are not at all interested in helping patient.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Very interesting topic šŸ˜›
I have experienced both sides as well. I work as a Oncology Registered Nurse. Over 80% of the doctors at my work are Indians or Pakistanis. I remember many of them telling me that Indian Medical schools provide you with a strong Anatomy/Phys. foundation among other things. I have seen both bad and good aspect of Indian/PAkistani MDs. Some of them even in USA, don't explain the disease process, treatment, and procedures in detail. I often get feedback from my patients," he is a man with few words." But at the same time, I have seen U.S. MDs saving their time by skipping the explanation.
My sister is in her 3rd year of Residency program in CA. So far she has hated the system. Many of her friends who are doing residency in NY are also suffering. Many of the Indian doctors sent their chiildren to India for Medical schools. In their opnion, their kids would be better prepared...
I guess in the end, it's your luck and passion towards your career. If you are in luck, you may find a wonderful institution in India or USA.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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well I'm going to be a medical school student here in the U.S., so I'm gonna weigh in a little bit on this topic. Everyone has brought great points up so far... šŸ‘

I do want to say though that U.S. docs do get a ton of clinical experience...in fact too much at times...med school here is 4 years long, the last 2 years of which are spent in the clinical setting only. Then after you graduate, you're not yet a fully licensed doctor. They make you undergo 3-8 years of additional training in your specialty...this is known as your residency. For most docs here, it's not until you're 30 or 31 that you become a full-blown physician. It's this clinical experience which I think is necessary.

I have no idea how it works in India b/c I've never been involved in the health care system there.

However, I can say this much....it really doesn't matter what country you're from. It depends on your motivation and what you make of your med school experience. If you're motivated and give it your all, you will be an excellent doctor, bar none....no matter where you've graduated from...whether it's AIIMS, Harvard, or a tiny, no-name school. I've seen great doctors that are both MD's and MBBS (those who come to us from india and practice) as well as horrible docs that are MD/MBBS....

All schools...all around the world...have the potential to make great doctors, but it's really a person's personal motivations which make them a great doc, not the country where they studied. It's what you choose to do with your degree, not where you got it from...IMO..

Just my opinion...and I totally respect everyone else's b/c everyone has a right to their opinion šŸ‘

Edited by *Anjali* - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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In India the doctor to people ratio is very less and every doctor has a clinic
or private practice. Indian doctors see more patients than in other parts of
the world. Indian doctors gain more experience in shorter period of time.
Nowdays Doctors rely on technology a lot and hospitals are equipped better
with facilities.

The private health sector that's growing in
Coimbatore, a major city in Tamil Nadu, is doing a commendable job. I
know there are other parts in India also contributing to health industry.

India is going to be a future health hub for the world.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Anjali !!!! What are you doing here !!! You are supposed to take rest !!!!!

Shoooo.................

OK, no shooo......muah muah for coming here and taking a peep.......come back soon....we need you my dear 'bestest' global mod!!!

Originally posted by: Aparna_BD



Hey Soumya all though i agree that U.S Doctors will speak to you directly since in the U.S , its each to them self . And that can be scary for us Indians who aren't used to this .

But when i talk about lack of privacy , you gotta have been through the experience that when you go to an Indian Doctor for a physical be prepared to swallow your pride and be ready to do away with your dignity !!!! My pride is very important to me especially when i am dressed vulnerably for a Doctor (if you know what i mean) !!😳 Indians in India do not realise it if they haven't been through an experience else where . They don't complain about it , because we Indians by nature do not complain about even the big things and are readu to accept them . Even my Mother in law doesnot understand what i mean .



Aparna, I understand perfectly what you mean!!

However, in the most recent times, it's not that way anymore. Both my kids were born in India,and then I went to several docs for variety of reasons, and invariably I found all of them having private check up chambers and especially the gynics that I visited gave my privacy a lot of importance (even my husband was not allowed unless I specifically asked). I had no fear of getting overheard by anyone sitting in the earshot,because no one was. There are some fabulous clinics out there now, and the cost is nothing compared to what it's here.Even the staff is trained to behave in a proper fashion(though they still have a long way to go before they catch up with their US counterparts in matters of courtesy). Tecnology in most such hospitals is at par with the best in the world.

Having had the reasonable experience of both American and Indian doctors, and I am much more comfortable with the Indian counterparts than the American ones. I feel the American docs are way toooo dependent on technology,and use it even to arrive at the diagnosis of smallest of ailments. One thing which definitely absent here is the moral and mental support, and a doctor never ever gives his/her opinion on any case,or even give suggestions. I have seen some terrible cases here where they refuse to admit a fully pregnant lady because she has not dilated enough and keep sending her back home with little or no concern,never mind what she would want. Where they are extremely careful in courtesy department,they make up for it by their gross shortcomings in the sensitivity department ( they actually inform a patient thrashing in pain about the options of treatment available, and actually not give any advise when the patient asks for guidance.........and of course the patient has no idea whether option A is good or option B,and even if she did,the pain is getting in the way of making any rational judgement...but that's not their concerend,they are simply making sure they don't get suedšŸ˜†). Even if you are dying, short of some drastic visible development of your symptoms,you could be waiting for hrs in the emergency before you get treated. Sometimes delay could be even for a simple reason of them checking and getting (or not getting) a green signal from the insurance šŸ˜†.Sometimes you could go for an ailment,which is simple but bothersome, and the doctor actually has nothing new to offer you after you take pains to get an appointment and then pay the co fees,not to speak of the money they get from the insurance,and you come away feeling no better. In India, the doctor might actually kindly decline to take the visitation fee !!!šŸ˜†.However,one very good thing about here is that they take your each and every complaint very seriously,even if they sound rediculous even to your own ears!!!

Ultimately, it depends upon your comfort level. But if privacy is the only issue,then I must assure you that now a days there are top notch nursing homes which give everything - starting from a hi tech instruments to a well mannered staff to a chic private check up facility where privacy is a given factor, complete with the typical Indian doctor who gives a high comfort level and treats you like a friend and that too at 1/10 th of the price. However, the problem of not encouraging too many questions and not specifying side effects still might exist.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Hi Minnie thx for sharing your experience. I am actually talking about my very recent (last year) and many many experiences with Docs in India and the U.S, now and recent. And in the best clinics/Hospitals in Delhi.

I somehow was disgusted with privacy issues as well as their senstivity . It may have been in the department that i needed treatment. But i suppose all medical departments do not have the same experiences and issues.When i mean senstivity, i mean the way they feel for your problem.

But yes i agree that Indian Docs are as knowledgeable as the U.S docs.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Sowmya

ur absolutely right. no moral suport u get from american doctors. for each test result they read to u they have sucha cold face that it looks like they are going to read ur death sentence. 😔

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Posted: 19 years ago
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There are good doctors and bad doctors in either country. But let's talk about the medical system.

One thing I want to point out is that I feel safer in the hands of an American doctor and American hospital because there is enough regulatory control that controls fraud and negligence. (Yes, "controls", regulations can't completely prevent them).

But on the other hand, I keep hearing horror stories about how my cousins were led into C-sections by scare-tactics. There is no good record keeping or regulatory control in India, which could have dire consequencies for patients.

Once again, I am not saying every aspect of medical system in the US is good. I am just pointing out one good thing about it.

One good thing about Indian system is, we generally go to a doctor we know or we know through somebody. So we kind of a have a personal relationship with the doc. THere is no such thing in the US. You go to an unknown doctor and keep changing doc every year.

TD
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Posted: 19 years ago
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I would rather trust a Indian doc. I don't like medical system in US. If I need treatment I can get best doc. from good school and experience 'coz I am paying him directly. In US though you are paying your fees with med. insurance most of the time its a business between docs and insurance company. It is really scary. Doc's cannot refer me to a expert or a specialist in field just 'coz my insurance does not cover me rather i would have to compromise and "try" someone else. Now this is no car body we are talking about....also, talking abot specail field "birthing" i have seen tons and tons of cases (atleast in midwest) abot dr's trying to push for natural birth....doesn't matter if it takes 24 hrs and that women special asian women 've smaller pelvic bone structure... 😔 I've tons of friends and family in west coast and Dr's who are friends in east coast and they say c-section in these two coast is very easy...compared to midwest they are so rigid 🤢 As a medical system and Dr's knowledge and confidence i would vote for India Dr's šŸ‘šŸ¼ and as for being polite and concerend about your privacy i vote for US dr's. 😊

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