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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Summer3

I think ladies know God better than men.👍🏼

LOL is that coz pati parmeshwar?if you meant so then you're right I guess pati's are parmeshwars😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
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(Can you see anything? I can't).

Originally posted by: Believe

Answer the Five Questions:



You answer first - why is the name of this topic "Seeking certainty"? Are we seeking certainty when we discuss God, Higher power, the meaning of life, philosophy, theology, etc?

Originally posted by: Believe

Why Science dont have an Answer about God!!!?

One of the primary reasons behind this is that religious people had not been able to provide a proper definition of the term 'God' or 'Higher power', and even the ones that are popular are pretty conflicting, contradicting for scientists, or anyone on that matter, to actually trying to understand God, let alone figure Him out. Also 'cause science is a methodology to study the natural world, not the supernatural one. We surely can study God's glory (i.e. the universe and nature, as long as one believes in it) through science, but studying what exists outside the realm of space and time, or more specifically, the universe and science, through science is pretty meaningless.

Originally posted by: Believe

Do we humans need evidance to believe!?why?

We need evidences to know, faith to believe, and a mixture of faith and knowledge to go on with life. I think most rational people falls into this category.

Originally posted by: Believe

Is there any experience that has or would convince you that there must be a being you might call God?

Watching the stars twinkling, storms brewing, rain falling, the golden sunsets, the dark forests, etc - basically any natural scenario - makes me think of a higher power. Now, the golden ratio, mathematics, the sciences, the strict rules and regulations nature follow, reminds me of it.

Originally posted by: Believe

Alternatively is there anything that would convince you that God could not possibly exist?

Nope, I don't think so. Faith (or lack thereof) isn't something that you can change by your will-power. If you believe in something, you believe in it. If you don't, you don't. It's not something that you can bring by will, or remove by wish.
I remember that somewhere I read that the predisposition to believe is already hardwired into the human psych. We, human beings, are more likely to go with the "I know / I believe" route than the "I don't know / I don't believe" one. If the tendency to believe is hard-wired into my brain (which I assume is the case, at least with me; or else, why did I grow up believing - is it solely because of social conditioning, parental influence? I don't think so) or it is something I inherited genetically, I doubt it very much if I will be able to stop believing altogether.

Originally posted by: Believe

Would that evidence convince everyone that no other scientifically viable conclusion is possible?

You mean theophany? I am not the biggest believer in those, and as such I don't think I can ever take the words from these people, who claim to have divine experiences, seriously. Likewise, I don't think anyone would ever take my words seriously if I tell them that I have just met Azrael and seen the face of death. Heck, I don't know if I myself would be able to believe in it literally; being the rationalist that I am, I will try to figure out some other scientific mean to rationalize what [had] happened. As such, many a times, we ignore omens, miracles, etc (God's language) thinking them to be ordinary events...but I have gone into a totally different direction, so sorry for that... 😆 My point was that, since we cannot produce any solid scientific evidence for God or the likes, we cannot objectively try to convince others to believe in it as all we are left with is our own faith and nothing more. As such, I let others decide what they

Originally posted by: Believe

Post your View and comments!

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You tell me - What is God? How would you define him, describe him, without going excessively lengthy or bringing words from scriptures or already-written works? What is God to you? Does he resemble human beings, albeit very wise ones, with white beards and hair, or do you think of God as a formless, incomprehensible entity? If it is the latter, how much can our mind comprehend of this incomprehensible entity?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*



Does that mean if I "forget" the word life, it will cease to exist?

I think not.



The Jews lost the word/name of God. They still believe. 😆

I just discovered this weekend that Judaism mentions reincarnation too. I'm intrigued by Kaballah.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades



The Jews lost the word/name of God. They still believe. 😆

I just discovered this weekend that Judaism mentions reincarnation too. I'm intrigued by Kaballah.



YHWH - Yahweh. They do have a name.

Judaism and reincarnation?! 😲 How come?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: PhoeniXof_Hades



YHWH - Yahweh. They do have a name.

Judaism and reincarnation?! 😲 How come?



YHWH has no vowels. It is a mental pronunciation. No one knows the actual pronunciation. Yahweh is just the name of God based on the known consonants. Yahweh is not the name of God. If you consult with a Jewish Rabbi, they will explain God has no name/word.

Thats not the only thing they lost. They lost the ark too. They even lost Dan's whole tribe.

Kaballam mentions reincarnation, but reincarnation is not taught in contemporary religion. A lot of mystical texts are for higher level students.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mahi_Way

I WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree to you👏

the whole heartedly sounds more like a whole meal diet!!! I too agree... it doesnt cost to believe..
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Posted: 15 years ago
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For POH - Concept of Gilgul (Hebrew) http://emol.org/kabbalah/gilgul/

Some more - http://www.jewfaq.org/olamhaba.htm

As Mister. K would caution that sites cannot always be trusted.

However, all I can do is that I have asked a rabbi as well as Jews and received affirmation.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades

For POH - Concept of Gilgul (Hebrew) http://emol.org/kabbalah/gilgul/

Some more - http://www.jewfaq.org/olamhaba.htm

As Mister. K would caution that sites cannot always be trusted.

However, all I can do is that I have asked a rabbi as well as Jews and received affirmation.

What???? in five gardens!!!????
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: qwertyesque

What???? in five gardens!!!????

Onslaught of Hades 😆 😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: angie.4u

Onslaught of Hades 😆 😆

For the Jews its more like Close encounter of Hades kind.. poor rabbi..😆😆

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