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Posted: 15 years ago
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The trouble that we had on the Ramjanma bhoomi thread for calling a temple a structure !!! Here RTH goes again - calling it pvt institute !
I see no fireworks yet 😉 Members must have matured since my last visit here 😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: souro


Can't say about other Hindu temples but yes Jagannath temple in Puri does have this rule. People of other religions are not allowed there. Though am not surprised at all, with the kind of hostility famous temples had to face throughout those Islamic invasions it's only natural. Infact, when Buddhism came to power even they ransacked many temples (which is why I don't get it when people claim that only buddhists are the only one who have never been the aggressor).

temples policies may not be representative of the religion as whole.. Islam for which for eg.. will have consistent rules.. puri.. cant make its rules....and that thing about buddhism is a real news... but its not to be forgotten that buddha was born hindu and belonged to india at that time.. and the people who follow him or adopted buddhism dont have an rules to follow.. now half the dalits in india are buddhists... and they go on vandalizing under that religion it will distort the tenets of budhhism.. if chinese adopted buddhism.. they have been aggressors irrespective.. so .. budhha's hindu origins.. make itmore non-violent kind of religion...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: crazy_sunny

The trouble that we had on the Ramjanma bhoomi thread for calling a temple a structure !!! Here RTH goes again - calling it pvt institute !

I see no fireworks yet 😉 Members must have matured since my last visit here 😆



I was unaware that structure and private institution were blasphemy. 😕

SVCG must have hit everyone with the thesaurus.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades



I was unaware that structure and private institution were blasphemy. 😕

SVCG must have hit everyone with the thesaurus.

its almost like calling your dad "dude:"..😆.. not illegal but maybe not done... some reverence is expected...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades



This is new information for me. Do you have any links or references for further reading on this matter? I'd love to read more into it.


I don't really have any proofs for this. Two names of important temples that I can mention are Angkor Wat and Badrinath. However, quite a large number of people at that time became Buddhists, maybe they altered the temple to suit their new need. So, 'ransack' was the wrong word to use I guess, as I don't know whether they used force to arm-twist the remaining Hindus to give up or not. Maybe they just got rid of the deities which they no longer believed in and altered some of the carvings to make them those of Buddha.

Btw, since you were talking about temples being private institutes used by the public. I was thinking then what about schools? If authorities of school A doesn't allow students of school B to enter school A (especially during school hours), will we say that the authorities are wrong in doing that?

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: souro


I don't really have any proofs for this. Two names of important temples that I can mention are Angkor Wat and Badrinath. However, quite a large number of people at that time became Buddhists, maybe they altered the temple to suit their new need. So, 'ransack' was the wrong word to use I guess, as I don't know whether they used force to arm-twist the remaining Hindus to give up or not. Maybe they just got rid of the deities which they no longer believed in and altered some of the carvings to make them those of Buddha.

Btw, since you were talking about temples being private institutes used by the public. I was thinking then what about schools? If authorities of school A doesn't allow students of school B to enter school A (especially during school hours), will we say that the authorities are wrong in doing that?



I'd say more research would have to be done to determine what happened with Angkor Wat and Badrinath. But if you find more info please do share.

Schools public or private have to have nondiscriminatory admission procedures. Students are tied to their school after a fair admission process. They still can enter other school premises for sports, competitions, social events etc. During school hours is a different issue because they should be studying and one can disrupt the other.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades



I'd say more research would have to be done to determine what happened with Angkor Wat and Badrinath. But if you find more info please do share.

Schools public or private have to have nondiscriminatory admission procedures. Students are tied to their school after a fair admission process. They still can enter other school premises for sports, competitions, social events etc. During school hours is a different issue because they should be studying and one can disrupt the other.


If we say that we won't allow others (say blacks or whites or people from so and so nations) to accept Hinduism, then that would be discrimination. But if we take Hinduism as the institute with the various temples acting as the school buildings and Hindus as the students, then I don't see any discrimination as a temple remains closed for all during the sleeping time and rest of the time it is working hours.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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^^^

That would make sense if every private institution of public services are all run like schools. Besides even a school would be culpable if they discriminated against a race.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: qwertyesque

its almost like calling your dad "dude:"..😆.. not illegal but maybe not done... some reverence is expected...



To clarify, I have never used these 'terms' out of disrespect or lack of reverence.

Faith and belief is what makes something holy, reverent and important. This faith is irreversible, and each person who has faith will see temples, churches, mosques, in their own unique perception of faith. Faith is emotional and you cannot argue or debate with faith.

So sometimes in order to debate you have to take away some of the emotions attached to it and debate based on the core logical terms. Now I know faith is strong with some people, and such things are unpalatable. But if it is legitimate rhetoric you are interested in then you know that appeal to emotions (anger, faith, sympathy, love etc) is considered a fallacy.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades



To clarify, I have never used these 'terms' out of disrespect or lack of reverence.

Faith and belief is what makes something holy, reverent and important. This faith is irreversible, and each person who has faith will see temples, churches, mosques, in their own unique perception of faith. Faith is emotional and you cannot argue or debate with faith.

So sometimes in order to debate you have to take away some of the emotions attached to it and debate based on the core logical terms. Now I know faith is strong with some people, and such things are unpalatable. But if it is legitimate rhetoric you are interested in then you know that appeal to emotions (anger, faith, sympathy, love etc) is considered a fallacy.

Isnt that true almost everytime we end up hurting someone with a careless statement.. nobody means it.. but it somehow tramples sensitivities.. As much is faith about our personal beliefs and things we are sensitive about we it is about being sensitive to what other people are sensitive to....sometimes not being bad doesnt make it good.. 😊.. but I am not speaking about myself.. but in general.. i know what you weren't saying 😊
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