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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

Looks like Occam's razor is wasted on you.

I had to google to find out what that means. You know for a concept preaching simplicity, it has tons of paragraphs to explain what it is all about. Guess it's not that simple, after all.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Mister.K.

I had to google to find out what that means. You know for a concept preaching simplicity, it has tons of paragraphs to explain what it is all about. Guess it's not that simple, after all.



Occam's razor - The simplest explanation is oft the best explanation.

It is very simple really Mister. K, bechara Occam ka kya kasoor ki duniya waale ghuma phirake baat kartein hain, chinti ki bojh ko haathi samaan kar dete hain. 😆

I'm one to speak of simplicity. I've been told my posts are too long and that I need to be more succinct.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Mister.K.

Please do put forward all your views and theories - I do appreciate all of them. It's just that my filter, as you put it, will not accept anything that sounds "unreasonable" to me.



Why does it sound unreasonable to you? Perhaps if you explain that, we can take this debate forward. So far, you are outrightly rejecting without saying why exactly you are rejecting our views.

You rely so much on science in your quest but sceintific theories change too. Then why is it the change my thoughts, my feelings, my body go trough baffles you so much?

Rest, as promised, later after I am done putting it all together.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Mister.K.

I had to google to find out what that means. You know for a concept preaching simplicity, it has tons of paragraphs to explain what it is all about. Guess it's not that simple, after all.



😆 it should really not be that hard to figure out if one knows precisely how to google😉

Talking of Occam's Razor here😛😆
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

Why does it sound unreasonable to you? Perhaps if you explain that, we can take this debate forward. So far, you are outrightly rejecting without saying why exactly you are rejecting our views.

You rely so much on science in your quest but sceintific theories change too. Then why is it the change my thoughts, my feelings, my body go trough baffles you so much?

I didn't reject anything. Who am I to reject anything?
Two arguments that I found unreasonable so far are a) Karam-Phal b) perceived uniqueness of animated matter, specifically the human species. I gave my views and counter questions on both already.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Gauri_3



😆 it should really not be that hard to figure out if one knows precisely how to google😉

Talking of Occam's Razor here😛😆

"So the simplest explanation or strategy tends to be the best one"😊
The Simple Truth I suppose that God is Goodness.
Basic courtesy basic goodness etc removes the dust that dims our vision so that we have Right Understanding.
But we can also argue that knowing the Truth makes us good. so it is the Truth that sets us free.
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Posted: 15 years ago
I will have to read some new pages, while I was away, before I post something.

However, I wonder if some fundamental question like "Who am I?", "Why am I?", etc in itself caused the super entity to do all this that resulted in the current universe. It precipitated into things to see itself or to know itself. As a small part of that super entity, it is our duty to find out the answer and we have to search everywhere from smallest dimension to the biggest one.

At the end of this precipitation, of this universe, I wonder if the fundamental question will still be answered because then there might be just the answer and no one to ask the question. If the end means the end of the universe.

But, I dont know if it possible for any entity to know itself? We need at least another thing, like mirror, another human, etc, to know ourself even a bit.

Edited by karandel_2008 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: karandel_2008

I will have to read some new pages, while I was away, before I post something.

However, I wonder if some fundamental question like "Who am I?", "Why am I?", etc in itself caused the super entity to do all this that resulted in the current universe. It precipitated into things to see itself or to know itself. As a small part of that super entity, it is our duty to find out the answer and we have to search everywhere from smallest dimension to the biggest one.

At the end of this precipitation, of this universe, I wonder if the fundamental question will still be answered because then there might be just the answer and no one to ask the question. If the end means the end of the universe.

But, I dont know if it possible for any entity to know itself? We need at least another thing, like mirror, another human, etc, to know ourself even a bit.

Welcome back! Please do catch up on all the stuff that's been written so far.
Yes, it's my take too (and I think Summer's as well) that consciousness is understanding itself thru "who am I" resulting in all of this. I wrote reams of pages leading up to this on those very lines.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: karandel_2008

As a small part of that super entity, it is our duty to find out the answer and we have to search everywhere from smallest dimension to the biggest one.

At the end of this precipitation, of this universe, I wonder if the fundamental question will still be answered because then there might be just the answer and no one to ask the question. If the end means the end of the universe.

But, I dont know if it possible for any entity to know itself? We need at least another thing, like mirror, another human, etc, to know ourself even a bit.

I think if even one has actual realization (Summer and Gauri will disagree, not sure about RTH) that it's futile to look into all this to find oneself (the meaning of "I"), because it is NONE of this and not even the sum total of all of this, then consciousness will go back to sleep (I have no idea, as of now, how that works) resulting in the death of the universe.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Mister.K.

I think if even one has actual realization (Summer and Gauri will disagree, not sure about RTH) that it's futile to look into all this to find oneself (the meaning of "I"), because it is NONE of this and not even the sum total of all of this, then consciousness will go back to sleep (I have no idea, as of now, how that works) resulting in the death of the universe.



One theory on the death of universe is that, after continuously expanding, the particles will reach a temperature of absolute zero and there will be no motion.
Edited by karandel_2008 - 15 years ago

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