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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: -Saalekh-



sumtimes its not in your control to choose good over evil...or should i say its not easy to do that. for example, jealousy, it is indeed an evil thing because nowadays people harm other people because of jealousy. Now who doesn't get jealous in this world no matter how hard we try?



Negative emotions are innate to human nature, it is not the emotion itself that is the problem. It is perfectly normal to feel jealous at times, but if you realize that, and control your emotions, you should be fine. It is when these emotions go out of control and lead people to act in certain ways that it becomes an issue.
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Posted: 16 years ago
but sometimes dont u feel jealous when you see bad people getting good things and good people getting bad things? Doesn't it make you wonder what's the point of doing good things then if that happens?
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Posted: 16 years ago
Problems occur when we put more focus on others than ourselves. If one has faith in oneself & some patience & continues in ones good efforts one is bound to get good results sooner or later.
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Posted: 16 years ago
There is nothing wrong with negative emotions, or acting upon them once in a while. No one is perfect and even the best people falter, that is why I do not believe in absolute hell or heaven, but relative consequences of actions.

I also feel that its not always merely the action, but the circumstance that also counts. You or I may feel that someone is 'evil' and doing wrong, but we can never truly understand the circumstance that made someone do something wrong. Sometimes people want to do good, but commit bad acts due to misguidance. Hence, they may receive some amount of good because their inherent nature is not exactly evil.

Also there are short term and long term effects. Something evil may cause short term benefit, but in the long term the person suffers, Doing good may cause inconvenience in the short term but long term benefits. Also consequences do not have to be materialistic, peace of mind, clear conscience, feeling good and positive about oneself are often ignored.

Finally, one often hears the question why do good if something good won't come of it. The thing is that when you have adapted that thought process you have ceased acting upon goodness. What you are doing is trying to beat the laws of consequences to act in such a way that only good things happen to you. You maybe doing good, but because of selfishness that it result in good consequences.

As the wise ones say - focus on your actions, and solely on your actions; do not think about the consequences for they are not yours to determine. Do good because you feel its the right thing to do and your heart is in it, not because you want to be rewarded for it.
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Posted: 16 years ago
Hey POH, I still owe response to your post on free will. I know I promised to get there over the weekend but needless to say - that did not happen. Was way too busy. But I'll get to it this week for sure. Free will is a topic that confuses me lot more than any other topic out there. It is also one of those topics that I find way too hard to let go😆
Similarly Order in Chaos is another topic that I find very hard to grasp. Probably lot more harder than free will.
By the way, I see a disconnect between what you call free will and what I see as free will. If I am not mistaken, you are saying choosing one alternative amongst many is expressing free will. I don't agree with this. For me, that is just one chaice a person made. It could be random, judgmental or purely coincidental. For me, free will is the action a person takes without any influence from any external and/or factors and/or without any inhibitors on the possibilities related to the set of choices available to him..
Another reason I refute that free will exist in humans is my belief in the omnipresent superpower I call God. I do not see God as an interfering power but I do believe that she did set the path for a huge part of our life at the time we are born. That path depends hugely on past Kramas and is modified throughout by my present Karma. Additonally, I also believe in destiny.
Combine all these together and I see a course of life that is pre-set with some pre-set forks/bifurcations on the way. Now, it is upto me to choose which fork I take and which I let go. That decision will be based on my collective experiences so far, the need of the hour and my moral/ethical values. At times, that decision may also depend on the temptations that get thrown at me. But, at any given point in time, I have no control over which forks will be presented to me.
Since those choices that are presented to me along the way are out of my control, how can one say I exerted my feel when all I could do is choose amongst that pre-set forks in the road I have been set on to take the journey of my life?
Hope this makes sense.
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Posted: 16 years ago
G-Unit, are you implying that free will can exist only in the state of absolute anarchy? Also, can a person then blame their misfortune on past karma and destiny and take no accountability?
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

Another reason I refute that free will exist in humans is my belief in the omnipresent superpower I call God. I do not see God as an interfering power but I do believe that she did set the path for a huge part of our life at the time we are born. That path depends hugely on past Kramas and is modified throughout by my present Karma. Additonally, I also believe in destiny.

ahem ahem😆

Seriously though,what about first birth where the previous karma don't play a role at all.?

Talking about free will,

i'll also additionally like to ask you,

if suppose i give someone a choice between toffee and a chocolate , and the other person takes a toffee/chocolate/both , i think he exercised his free will😆

Now you don't consider it as free will cos i gave you a choice only between toffee and chocolate as you also wanted ice creams, juices, etc right?😆

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Posted: 16 years ago


Actually, it's not that surprising. God has such mood swings and issues, that I often think must be female. A man would be less hormonal. Don't you think?

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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: return_to_hades



Actually, it's not that surprising. God has such mood swings and issues, that I often think must be female. A man would be less hormonal. Don't you think?

wah wah ! a debate on whether god is he, she or it??!!😆 Pehle ye to pata karo ki god hai bhi ya nahin😛😆
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: clodpolish

wah wah ! a debate on whether god is he, she or it??!!😆 Pehle ye to pata karo ki god hai bhi ya nahin😛😆

Of course, God is a woman --- a woman with perpetual PMS😆 That should explain all your queries on misfortunes in anyone's life - be it the very first life or babies or what not😆

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