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Posted: 9 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Gayatri the major instance is making Suha the prosecution lawyer. See system appoints her bending the rule because they feel she can win it for system. Adarsh does the PIL for that and using Simmi as the ruse he gets Suha in the battle.

He knows one thing, Suha will keep the weapon the day she knows system is going deny justice to Abhay Sinha. No other prosecutor could have done that. They would have toed the system's line. But not Suha.
System which have bend rule to win, will lose because of that one move only.Adarsh has to remain under cover only till his mother knows the truth. Once she knows power goes from System's hand and Swa can take the system down.
The mother Suhasini Sinha is going to go to defense side and that will be system's fall. And the one who placed her there, creating the illusion for system is Adarsh Sinha.
Defense reveals only when the power of defense on the opposite side goes. That's the basic rule. Basic intelligence.

Though i believe in u n pri n ur thought proces but i doubt on the writing of creatives ... They cant be so good😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: rohini55

@soap,
What is it that Adarsh has done? In what way has he supported her? Take Arvind Gupta, it was Swa who remembered the mall incident, it was she who located him in the cctv footage. It was she who remembered the shopkeeper and helped trace him and again it was she who prevented him from committing suicide. And it is she who has set the police after Arvind and guessed Yash's intentions are to prevent Arvind's capture.

If you ask me, the case is solved. She, in the presence of cops, has proved that Arvind is a terrorist. She has proved that he had terrorist accomplices who were instructed to kill themselves if caught. Add all this to the fact that Arvind brought the gift, went missing and you have the Jilanis as the terrorists case unravelling.

In fact all Swa needed to do was present these facts in court, this time with the cops on her side and her role would be over. The judge would order an interrogation and investigation of Team Arvind which will automatically clear the Jilanis.

So what exactly is the cloak and dagger undercover agent doing? He will take her to hospital etc etc but that is after the case has all but been solved. If you have to give him credit, and portray him as Krishna, al I can say is he makes for a very poor Krishna. Unless the contention is that Adarsh sat inside Swa's brain and directed her to do what she did.


I couldn't agree with you more...and if it takes an attack on Swadheenta to get his grey cells functioning, then its definitely not worthy of any recognition...
I am not attempting to bash this guy..but what perplexes me is, despite she having presented such solid facts, he hasn't come forward to have a conversation with her...

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Posted: 9 years ago
#63
@soap do share your imagination. I have told you mine. He reduced himself to an atom and smuggled himself inside her brain. How else would poor "abla naari " get so brainy? What else he did , I wouldn't know. 😉
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Posted: 9 years ago
#64
I now know why he is under cover. It is not Aravind Gupta or anything. He himself told it, but in a different occasion. I was thinking from where it happened, or how it happened
I can confirm 95% now Adarsh Sinha is under cover. What does he tell in the first court hearing. A dying man never utter a lie.

So if I am right, if the creatives are intelligent, if the script is intelligent Adarsh Sinha the minute the police told them Asad is the killer of Abhay, he guessed what his chotu wanted to tell. System would have told him Asad is the killer, but if in the last breath his brother took Asad's name it was to tell him something that the system has not told or not seen. That Asad Jilani is not the killer. And the FBs whatever he got, he would have been convinced that his family will not believe, system will tangle and in every way the real killer of his brother will get away. He shouted to fool the system, for the system to think he is with them.
Then he goes to Padmashree, make her go to Swa. Swa in each argument make his belief come forth true. When she calls him to witness box is he an idiot to talk the truth when he knows that can tilt the case. He says and then he covers up that with his emotional outburst of Abhay's last words. In any situation he jumps first.
In room he is cold. If he is different behaviour, soft behavior to Swa in the room and rude behaviour outside, Swa will not allow it. She will not allow him to pretend. Hence on most occasions either he shouts or keep silence.
If Adarsh is the under cover agent it is not Swa who he has gambled against. He did the biggest gamble in making Simmi know the truth. A heart patient, pregnant, widow in front of her Padmashree brings the news Swa is fighting for her husband's killers. Anything could have happened to Simmi at that moment of truth.
But SImmi holds on and shouts and he says Abhay Sinha's killers wont get away because mom is gonna fight. That is his faith. His wife for the truth and when truth reveals his mom leaving the system so that Abhay and Asad gets justice.

Swa can collect any evidence, run around doing anything, but the system is equally convulted and if the prosecution is someone else they will bring much more falsify evidences, which will be difficult to refute in court. Even in second hearing the court told only 3 more days and they will pass verdict.
Without Suha there, system will win and Swa will lose that's for sure.

Then coming to Swa going to Padmashree, when did Swa go to her. After she came to Swa multiple times. So Padmashree was a reporter Swa knew and she went to her to get info. If the first time Swa had gone to her agreed. But it was not.

And if you look from that perspective did Adarsh knew this, did Adarsh know that, Krishna only knew there has to be night battle to bring Ghatolkach to take power from Karna's hand. And that battle has to be initiated by Kauravas. 😆.

Defense is a very tough job. It is wait and watch game. Move fast according to the attack. And the least people know you are the defense the best.

See all this can go wrong. But I am hoping not. Krishna if you ask me personally I only know one thing. With him faith matters, not logic. If you have faith, logic you will find in his actions. This I am not telling from a character perspective, but as a person who have experienced Krishna in her life as her best friend from the age of 8.


Edited by shruthiravi - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#65
I had a feeling adarsh brought in suhasini because to her, justice for abhay is above everything else. If she sees that swadheenta is right then she will put her weapon down whereas any other prosecutor would want to win by hook or crook. watched that scene with padmashree again and even I noticed how she kept staring at him, in addition she addressed him as "adarsh." quite informal considering that she does not even know him that well.

I just realized that the day has finally come where manohar finally went against his wife. sadly, it is for the the wrong reasons...but then again, what can be expected from him? as much I feel bad for suhasini, this is all her karma for all the shady things she has done in the past.


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Posted: 9 years ago
#66
Gr8 analysis shruthi👏

even I think Adarsh is doing something in background,he knows the truth...but still he doesn't know about mono yet. After swa getting hurt he will go into the root and find everything. In final hearing suha will ensure abhay get justice...but don't know she'll also try to save mono or not. She may try but that's where adarsh will make sure mono and cm can't escape.

while reading all the comments I became even more confused😆🤣
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Posted: 9 years ago
#67
I really wish this is true.. but doesn't look like.. Also I want swadheenta to do all on her own without anyone's help! She is a rockstar and she can do that!! I love her powerful character.. I do want Swadarsh together but here I don't mind Swadheenta being the hero
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Posted: 9 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@rohini this is the problem in understanding Krishna and the concept of Chakravyuh. I always ask this question. Why did Krishna take Arjun to the other side of battle field when he knew very well what was going to happen. Why did he gave such a brutal death to his nephew. Sorrow to his sister. Why Abhi had to enter Chakravyuha and die and why Arjun had to be subjected to the most cruel mental harrassement guilt in his son's brutal death. And when Arjun makes the pledge he will die if he cannot get Jayadrath the next day, Panchali fears, Krishna doesn't utter one word. Throughtout the battle on 14th day Arjun fights a fierce battle to reach Jayadrath before sunset. If you look linear you wont see any role of Krishna in that 14th day battle. But if you re-read MB you will see how he takes Arjun inside, not allowing him to pursue futile battles, diverting his attention towards the right thing. And finally he does the adharma. He vindicates Arjun by taking the blame of adharma on to him. Arjun battles straight, all rule bending is done by Krishna. And he does it after Abhi's death. He doesn't even tell Arjun he is bending rules. What he does is seen to the world only when the weapon " Power" Shakthi goes from Karna's hand. Only then the Kauravas realize what he has been doing sitting as Arjun's charioteer. He was sitting there defending Dharma. And defense doesn't show up. Sometimes you don't even recognize it. Even Arjun knows what he is doing only when the illusion is lifted . Till then he is charioteer for Arjun who he orders " Madhav go this way, Madhav go that way" and Krishna obliges him. And on crucial battle on day 17th Arjun tell him. " Madhav you wont do treachery to protect me". Krishna agrees. He does treachery only to kill Karna 😆😆 which he doesn't tell Arjun till the moment he asks to send the arrow to an unarmed KarnaSame is Adarsh role. Swa will fight straight. Whatever rules that had to bended, the bending is done by him. Getting Suha as lawyer is bending of rules. The adharma of the fight is done by him for her, for protecting truth. Because if he tells her she wont allow it. But without bending rules this fight cannot be won also. That bending of rules is the illusion or rather counter illusion.

Who won the war Arjun or Krishna. Glory belongs to Arjun, and Arjun is the shining example of whatever Krishna stands for. There is no BG without Arjun. But can Arjun win without Krishna. Answer is no. He needs Krishna and the power of Krishna which Krishna gives to him without his asking. Arjun never demands Krishna's power. He only asks Krishna to be with him.
Same thing Swa says, when truth comes sarkari robinhood will be with her. She is not demanding his power at any point. I had put earlier also. Swa has chosen Adarsh , not Adarsh Sinha and in that will be her victory because she has allowed him to work under cover as her defense.
If she had questioned him, asked him to support her, fought with him Adarsh wouldn't have been able to create the illusion which I think he is creating successfully

i donrt know about Swa-Adarsh but you have explained Arjun-Krishna very beautifully.👏
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Posted: 9 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

I now know why he is under cover. It is not Aravind Gupta or anything. He himself told it, but in a different occasion. I was thinking from where it happened, or how it happened

I can confirm 95% now Adarsh Sinha is under cover. What does he tell in the first court hearing. A dying man never utter a lie.

So if I am right, if the creatives are intelligent, if the script is intelligent Adarsh Sinha the minute the police told them Asad is the killer of Abhay, he guessed what his chotu wanted to tell. System would have told him Asad is the killer, but if in the last breath his brother took Asad's name it was to tell him something that the system has not told or not seen. That Asad Jilani is not the killer. And the FBs whatever he got, he would have been convinced that his family will not believe, system will tangle and in every way the real killer of his brother will get away. He shouted to fool the system, for the system to think he is with them.
Then he goes to Padmashree, make her go to Swa. Swa in each argument make his belief come forth true. When she calls him to witness box is he an idiot to talk the truth when he knows that can tilt the case. He says and then he covers up that with his emotional outburst of Abhay's last words. In any situation he jumps first.
In room he is cold. If he is different behaviour, soft behavior to Swa in the room and rude behaviour outside, Swa will not allow it. She will not allow him to pretend. Hence on most occasions either he shouts or keep silence.
If Adarsh is the under cover agent it is not Swa who he has gambled against. He did the biggest gamble in making Simmi know the truth. A heart patient, pregnant, widow in front of her Padmashree brings the news Swa is fighting for her husband's killers. Anything could have happened to Simmi at that moment of truth.
But SImmi holds on and shouts and he says Abhay Sinha's killers wont get away because mom is gonna fight. That is his faith. His wife for the truth and when truth reveals his mom leaving the system so that Abhay and Asad gets justice.

Swa can collect any evidence, run around doing anything, but the system is equally convulted and if the prosecution is someone else they will bring much more falsify evidences, which will be difficult to refute in court. Even in second hearing the court told only 3 more days and they will pass verdict.
Without Suha there, system will win and Swa will lose that's for sure.

Then coming to Swa going to Padmashree, when did Swa go to her. After she came to Swa multiple times. So Padmashree was a reporter Swa knew and she went to her to get info. If the first time Swa had gone to her agreed. But it was not.

And if you look from that perspective did Adarsh knew this, did Adarsh know that, Krishna only knew there has to be night battle to bring Ghatolkach to take power from Karna's hand. And that battle has to be initiated by Kauravas.😆.

Defense is a very tough job. It is wait and watch game. Move fast according to the attack. And the least people know you are the defense the best.

See all this can go wrong. But I am hoping not. Krishna if you ask me personally I only know one thing. With him faith matters, not logic. If you have faith, logic you will find in his actions. This I am not telling from a character perspective, but as a person who have experienced Krishna in her life as her best friend from the age of 8.




Apart from Hospital's reaction (bcz didnt notice carefully) but there is possibility, agree with other points & i mentioned in one post that CV r showing different way of Supporting truth-Swadheenta openly,going against everyone even without any proof .Adarsh Secretly ,collecting evidence waiting for right time to show everyone .



Noticed changes after 1st hearing or u can say from that day when he was pretending to sleep (i think he was) then Outside of court his expression ,in court room his expressions, action were suspicious..




According to precaps suhasini slapped him for pointing finger at Manohor, just think what would happened if he supported swa 1st day openly ..

Adarsh knows how to balance & he told once ,till yesterday he was doing this but now his wife need him most so he'll change his form,will show what he can,what he did..


Cv showed Swadheenta's handwork but they didnt show Adarsh's,Trump card of Cv.probably we'll C flashback scene of his works..


(i guess)


recently im started telling reasons in details though i observed /guessed all this from beginning,
i like to wait to check whether guesses r right or wrong ,if it is right or possibility to be right wil tell..
Edited by Sana_Jannat - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Sana like you I was also waiting. I was observing, but couldn't connect what he is doing. As and when I got connections I put. But CVs have done it brilliantly. Now Adarsh can come in the open. Jai has send the right report to him. He has the evidence willingly given by his brother. See you can snatch evidence, but if you can make someone give it willingly isn't that more pleasant.
Jaya and Adarsh has made Jaidev switch tracks finally. A person is transformed.

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