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rohini55

@rohini55

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Posted: 9 years ago

#11

Dahleez is good precisely because it shows both kinds of Muslims. Iftikhar and Asad.

No one can and should deny that Muslims are involved in terrorism.

But often the hunt for terrorists leads to wrong people being picked up -- sometimes it is a misjudgment, some times it is not --and when this happens, people start hardening up from inside.

Can you blame the Jilanis if they feel betrayed by the country? This is how even sane, nice people change.

The only way to solve this problem is scrupulously fair investigation that does not presuppose things. When the investigation is shoddy and aimed at showing quick results -- which is often the case -- the real terrorists get away and innocents are sent to jail, which makes things worse. Because the terrorists can hatch further plots while those wrongly picked up become susceptible to communal propaganda.

And is only one community involved in terrorism?

Who killed Gandhi? Who killed Indira? And who killed Rajiv?

Since it is a sensitive issue I will not go into details but such forces are active even today.

Shruti, we are on the same side, so I will stop here.

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sweet_tehs

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Posted: 9 years ago

#12

Wonderful thread and enjoyed reading all of your comments.

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sweet_tehs

@sweet_tehs

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Posted: 9 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: rohini55

Dahleez is good precisely because it shows both kinds of Muslims. Iftikhar and Asad.

No one can and should deny that Muslims are involved in terrorism.

But often the hunt for terrorists leads to wrong people being picked up -- sometimes it is a misjudgment, some times it is not --and when this happens, people start hardening up from inside.

Can you blame the Jilanis if they feel betrayed by the country? This is how even sane, nice people change.

The only way to solve this problem is scrupulously fair investigation that does not presuppose things. When the investigation is shoddy and aimed at showing quick results -- which is often the case -- the real terrorists get away and innocents are sent to jail, which makes things worse. Because the terrorists can hatch further plots while those wrongly picked up become susceptible to communal propaganda.

And is only one community involved in terrorism?

Who killed Gandhi? Who killed Indira? And who killed Rajiv?

Since it is a sensitive issue I will not go into details but such forces are active even today.

Shruti, we are on the same side, so I will stop here.

Just want to disagree here...that only tagging Muslims as terrorists is wrong..

Is every bomb attack or every other destructional attack planned by Muslims or a Pakistani...??

Things are different but highlighted differently...

There are many crimes and terrorist activities going on in the world...

I would not like to delve much into it on this platform...

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Soapoperasrfun

@Soapoperasrfun

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Posted: 9 years ago

#14

Shruthi, Rohini - Amazing conversation. And many nice points brought about.

It is the unfortunate truth of today's world that everyone is skeptical and weary of people belonging to the Islamic world. It is the result of a handful of radicals, but without the knowledge of who these radicals are, it is easy to blame anyone.

I am greatly appreciative of the fact that although the names and religion is an underlying cause leading to some inferences, there has not been a single mention of religion being the basis of a bias so far in the show. We seem greatly surprised if we see a Hindu terrorist, and almost accept it as a given if it turns out to be a Muslim. But that inference has not been drawn by any one in the show (explicitly or implicitly). The only reason Asad and maamu are being doubted is because the cops have circumstantial evidence against them (or so they think). So, as an audience if we want to ignore the fact that they belong to a particular religion, it is up to us. You know what I mean. Like, this could happen to anyone. Because think of it from a character's perspective. Do you think Adarsh would have reacted any differently if it wasn't Asad (a Muslim) who killed his brother instead of a Hindu? Do you think Swadheenta will forgive Yash now because of his religion? Or would she have not gone after Ifthikar if he was in fact Aravind? So, the show makers have very smartly scripted the screen play. Love it, simply do.

Rohini, not just have they shown the contrast between Ifthikar and Asad. But they have in a way shown the similarity between Ifthikar and Yash too... both willing to take advantage of a young innocent boy for their ulterior motives.

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#15

@priti hope you now get the larger meaning of the dialogue tu abhay ke team mein hai, abhay ke team mein rah.

Asad can never be with Yash. He can only be with Abhay. A man who has sense of duty and humanity in him.

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rohini55

@rohini55

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Posted: 9 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: sweet_tehs

Just want to disagree here...that only tagging Muslims as terrorists is wrong..

Is every bomb attack or every other destructional attack planned by Muslims or a Pakistani...??

Things are different but highlighted differently...

There are many crimes and terrorist activities going on in the world...
I would not like to delve much into it on this platform...

You've completely misunderstood me.

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bollywoodfan16

@bollywoodfan16

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Posted: 9 years ago

#17

Wonderful analysis Shruthi. I dont know how you equate everything and that too perfectly. I love watching Dahleez from your point of view as it offers more deeper meaning than what the actual serial offers. Keep up the good work.

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#18

@bolly some shows offer deeper meaning if spend some times on it. Older DD shows had it in them. But currently in brainless shows leave larger meaning, you dont find meaning. That's the problem. Movies, book, shows etc are medium of change as it affects your thoughts. That is why they say Pen is mightier than Sword.

That is why certain movies are banned. Book like Da vinci code is banned. Because stories can affect power structures.

And that's why the west love to keep our mythology as some old books. If the knowledge in them comes out, in true sense Arsha Bharath will have to be respected as every thesis of modern science is there in those books if we analyze. Modern science deals with outer world and these epics apply the same laws to the inner world or rather our thoughts.

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bollywoodfan16

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Posted: 9 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@bolly some shows offer deeper meaning if spend some times on it. Older DD shows had it in them. But currently in brainless shows leave larger meaning, you dont find meaning. That's the problem. Movies, book, shows etc are medium of change as it affects your thoughts. That is why they say Pen is mightier than Sword.
That is why certain movies are banned. Book like Da vinci code is banned. Because stories can affect power structures.
And that's why the west love to keep our mythology as some old books. If the knowledge in them comes out, in true sense Arsha Bharath will have to be respected as every thesis of modern science is there in those books if we analyze. Modern science deals with outer world and these epics apply the same laws to the inner world or rather our thoughts.

Well said. There are so much in Indian roots that people in the west adapt and are even using in real life whereas we Indians are forgetting it. I go to yoga class here in US and they start with the word ohm and end with ohm and namaste. We have given so much to the world but we as Indians are honestly forgetting our roots. Its okay to adapt other cultures, there are always scope of learning but we should not forget ours honestly. Whenever I go to India, I honestly gets judged whenever I say I am vegetarian whereas my friends from rest of the part of world here respects my sentiments more. (Just my personal opinion). Does not mean to offend anyone

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#20

@bolly problem is we have kept the books on pedestal and have worshipped them. But never tried to understand them. Vishnu came as Ram and Krishna to teach us and instead of understanding what they wanted to teach we ended up worshipping them.

As a child I was very inquisitive and used to ask questions that Krishna says purity of mind is important , then why are you stressing so much on purity of body. Then I used to get scolded.

My grandpa thought the best way to stop my questioning was send me to Bhagavad Gita classes on Sundays in the community temple. My tryst with Gita started at the age of 8. And yes I loved Gita and used to chant verses, but what I liked most about it was, it was the motivation a friend gave to a friend. The relation of Arjun-Krishna left a lasting impact on me and I always say I worship Krishna the way Arjun worshipped him as his best friend. Epitome of Bhakthi in Sakha Bhav, the most easiest for a human to do is what I always tell people. Follow Arjun and ask God direction. Direction will come. Do action in that direction. Rest he will take care.

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