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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soapoperasrfun

Some of the biggest tragedies happen because of personal differences. Yesterday I was very upset with the way Yash acted. In fact, anyone who was available on the forum last night will know that I was lamenting about how I was cribbing that the Indian military will get misrepresented if a bomb actually goes off because of Yash's pettiness. But this morning, I seem to have developed a new perspective.


Your profession, training makes you the human that you are. But in the end, that is what you are too, a human. As important as it is for you to save your country, personal matters of this magnitude are of extreme importance too. For Yash, it wasn't just about Radhika. It was about his sister's life and how his family got insulted. An accomplished lawyer like Suhasini took over an year to accept the son that she loves the most because she believed that he insulted her. If you look at it from a human perspective, Yash's actions were justified. Also, it isn't very clear to me if they know at this point that the blasts were meant to happen today. They know that the blasts are happening. But they may still be unaware of the time frame. And despite their differences, both of them took the actions that they were meant to take. It didn't stop them from working together.

Also, a Lion (Asad) is most glorious (Yash) when it is fearless (Abhay). Yesterday, some people suggested that Asad was immature yet again in suggesting to Abhay that the wedding should not get postponed. I don't blame him. He is concerned for Freedom (even when he is distraught that his friends cheated him, his concern if for his sister). But what about Abhay? Did Abhay listen to Asad simply because he was suggesting it? Or did he agree with Asad? OR did he think that it is his responsibility to make sure things are ok, and that no one else should get involved. Either way, it is arguable that Abhay may not have been entirely correct to hide this from his family. It may have been his protective instinct, but then why blame Yash for his anger against Asad. They are all the same. They couldn't act just at a practical level and involved their emotions. All 3 of them made that mistake. Because not just do they need each other to defeat the bad, but they have to be together to accomplish the desired result.

Lastly, the point regarding Ravi and Rajesh. Like I had suggested before when we discussed Aravind's name, these guys chose the wrong names for themselves. Ravi is the most powerful of all. But here, he is the most meek one following orders from Aravind. The name Rajesh is also more powerful than Aravind. So, as much as Aravind thinks that he is in control, he cannot succeed without Ravi and Rajesh. And in their case, he chose a weak Sun and a weak God. He is bound to fail. He will be defeated internally by his weak sun (Ravi) and God (Rajesh), and externally he will be taken down by a fearless (Abhay) lion (Asad) in all its glory (Yash).


Actually as a police officer i can understand abhay wanting to take responsibility and not involving the aam junta & family so that there is no panic that is what in general the security that protects us do. but then abhay's family is different they are in important goverment positions and i feel he should have shared with jai atleast.
regarding Yash & Asad its different they both failed to rise above their petty differences. Yash being an army officer was more bothered about radhika and Asad his ego.
I also believe that as citizens in a crisis its not just the army or police that has to try to protect. Its also the citizen's responsibility to rise up and help. Friends turning out terrorists and that to staying in ones own house is something that makes that person accountable of it and Asad telling that i have told you what i knew an im going now was very irresponsible of him.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@naq, I agree and disagree with you 😆
When people are in stress and are emotionally high strung, they make decisions that they may not be proud of. But it happens to the best of us. People have different means to cope with pressure.

Yash knew of Asad's involvement with Radhika even before Asad called him. He didn't even have to show up if he wasn't concerned for the country. He did, and he immediately took action too. Yes, they did have an argument about Radhika which was unnecessary. They both could have just walked away from here like they didn't care. But if the precap can be believed, neither of them did. They are still working together, which means they put their personal differences aside. Also, Asad immediately called Abhay when he thought he could not deal with Yash alone. That is also responsibility, isn't it?

Secondly, they know that it is important that they act quickly. But they may not know that they have very little time left. We will have to see how things play out.

Considering the time line, Asad went looking for the thal at 4:30. The bombs were to go off at 9 (not sure, but i vaguely remember). So, by the time he found everything and told Yash about it by 5:30 or 6, they had 3 hours or 3 1/2 hours to find the location and diffuse all 3 bombs... which in all probability they will do. We already know that they have diffused one bomb. They will deduce the location of the others. So, it is fair to say that they did put aside their differences and still worked together. I would like to give them their due credit to be honest. 😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@naq the thing is if they didn't get into argument maybe all the 3 might have survived, but now they might still save the country, but in all probability will have to sacrifice their life. That's the difference of personal interest coming in pic
@priti as usual a very beautiful analysis. Yes all are emotional and when they realize the time is less and the location of the bombs all they might do is run to get it and in the mean time throwing away all precautions to air.
One more thing we have to look here. If the 3 survived and only blasts are prevented the larger conspiracy remains hidden. But in their death, so many questions will come which will reveal the larger conspiracy of why the blasts are actually planned. Some heads has to roll at the power centres.
If you look the death of Nirbhaya the most brutal way, raised a question on rapes as such. And why the rapist is allowed to go scott free. Her death resulted in amending juvenile justice law. Yes she suffered, but next time a juvenile cannot escape the way Nirbhaya's tormentor escaped after committing a crime of such magnitude.
The recent Paravoor temple tragedy in Kerala brought into the light the usage of crackers for temple festivals. Many temples and churches voluntarily decided not to use them, which if you try by creating awareness wont happen.
Sometimes for major changes to happen a tragedy of equal magnitude is required.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Wedding should go on decision: Well when Manohar suggested the wedding be deffered Suhasini called the entire family and heard perspectives. Asad was the first to speak and his reasons were different from those of the others. Interestingly none of the women spoke. We heard the men speak. The bomb blast is to unleash fear and terrorize folks. by postponing the wedding they would be succumbing to that bait.
The oversight
Others do not know but Abhay knew that wires were there and adopted combing operations. It now seems a battle of wits and sadly Abhay fails in it miserably if the blast kills him as he does not manage the crisis and avert disaster.
For people in the services it is a matter of succumbing to fear which they cant face. I remember we had planned a trip for kids. The eve of the trip there was a blast and security was beefed up. There were 2 contrasting stand points one to call off the other to proceed. A retired army man convinced the others that the trip should not be called off. I guess as somebody pointed out the preparatory stages equips the armymen and senior police officers to put service above self. We see Asad do it too though Yash was petty in not looking at the incriminating evidence at the most critical stage of averting the disaster.
Collective Responsibility
When the date discussion was on the leads and their parents only listened and did not offer their POV but went with the majority. Even when we have mis givings sometimes we do not express it. despite their own personal battles the three Yash Abhay and Asad work together and despite having a mission ahead Abishek has decided to do away with the other two. Hatred and unreasonable reasons and cause large scale destruction to high profile guests is the reason Sinha house became the preferred target.
While we can't hold a person of being responsible, we cant absolve any person from being party to the decision.
Promises to keep
In the hospital scene Simi promises she will smoothen Sasuma Freedom relationship. She had little to do thus far is it suggestive of the role she would play now to rise above her pain to sort matter.

Edited by moonwearer - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Do any of you have an opinion for the fact that Abhay bid good-bye to everyone but Adarsh in the house? I was truly upset about it to be honest...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@priti Abhay was not planning to go all away to the place from where he is not going to come back. For him, he will come and attend the wedding at the right time. Why he didn't go to Adarsh is if he goes , like Jai Adarsh will also know where he is going. He didn't wanted to bother his big brother on his D-Day
@moon you meant Aravind right, not Abhilash.
Edited by shruthiravi - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@priti Abhay was not planning to go all away to the place from where he is not going to come back. For him, he will come and attend the wedding at the right time. Why he didn't go to Adarsh is if he goes , like Jai Adarsh will also know where he is going. He didn't wanted to bother his big brother on his D-Day

@moon you meant Aravind right, not Abhilash.


I agree Shru. From a story perspective it makes sense. He was not meaning to meet anyone. But it just so happened that he met everyone else in the family expect Adarsh. So, from a theory perspective and an analysis angle, does that have any relevance? Everyone can remember their last interaction with Abhay, but Adarsh? And Swadheenta?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@priti I equated Abhay to Abhimanyu. I put it in another thread. Krishna and Arjuna are not there when he decides to enter Chakravyuh, when he fights in the chakravyuh, they are not even aware chakravyuh is being set up( let us forget Krishna as God). All they see is when they come back in the evening his body and the story of his bravery and brutal death.
That's why it breaks Arjun that he couldn't save his son.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@priti Abhay was not planning to go all away to the place from where he is not going to come back. For him, he will come and attend the wedding at the right time. Why he didn't go to Adarsh is if he goes , like Jai Adarsh will also know where he is going. He didn't wanted to bother his big brother on his D-Day

@moon you meant Aravind right, not Abhilash.


Not Abhishek or Abilash...Arvind

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@priti I equated Abhay to Abhimanyu. I put it in another thread. Krishna and Arjuna are not there when he decides to enter Chakravyuh, when he fights in the chakravyuh, they are not even aware chakravyuh is being set up( let us forget Krishna as God). All they see is when they come back in the evening his body and the story of his bravery and brutal death.

That's why it breaks Arjun that he couldn't save his son.


God, that is terrible. Adarsh will be gutted so bad. He is all excited and lost in his celebrations. What a rude shock this will be to all of them.

When they realize the enormity of the situation, i truly hope they show Abhay trying to reach his dad or Jaidev or someone. It is ok if they don't answer the phone because of the noise or something. But he should try the minute he realizes that Sinha house is a target. Because it will seem silly otherwise. Waiting to see how things unfold, but equally anxious and gutted about it

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