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Posted: 14 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: neerjashingla

If Buniyad, HUm Log and other shows were popular that time it was because of their story contents.....They were written by famous writers or based on novels....Focus was on scripts which were more progressive and strong in contents.....it was not so bad earlier but slowly because of TRP all the channels are in to rat race.....Creativity has taken back seat....just to better the TRP they will bring new twist or some change in the story mid way.....Now they follow the hit formula, means if particular soap is getting high TRP then lets lift the track from that soap.....TRP is like a weighing scale, if it dips low then lets put some twist turns in the story and shock the viewers.....Because of this , the essence and content of the story are ruined ....may be this is one of the reasons people loose their interest midway.....

when i was thinking of TRP weighing scales Misty came in to my mind....she is so good with cartoons....hope you will not be offended .....i appreciate your comic sense....



Neerja I did not see Humlog but saw Buniyaad and really liked the story of how the family comes to settle in Delhi after Partition and loosing everything it was a very strong story and it was quite gripping.I remember how so many people were addicted to these serials and when Ramayan and Mahabharat were shown it was a touch me not time and many did not want to be disturbed. Now there r a surfeit of shows and so many to choose so then the gimmicks r more in shows to attract the viewers and Channels and PHs r focusing on short term gains.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: radev24

PP Putija, what an article and what a summation by Ducca ! This War will continue even with new set of audience as long as '80s Buniyaad types are never made. No one knew or cared to know what TRP meant. The phrase didn't even exist. Money was the issue then also but supposedly not the prime motivator as TODAY.

Almost 2 years ago I was talking to a prominent IF member on the phone and we went on and on about the quality, the story, the script, the acting, direction, the works and did not stop praising Buniyaad. Alok Nath (most recently in YMGGK on zee) had become a household name in those days and this was the only soap that my mother would sit in front of the TV (back home then) and watch with starry eyes coz the story related to the debacles during partition that she could directly relate to.
Woh din kahan gaye ?
Even if and when CB 2 begins, I suppose the stars are always going to be on edge and having to continue to deal with crazy temperaments of the non-fictional Fiction Heads of the channel, PH, CVs,TRPs (not necessarily in that order !), and god knows what else. As audience, all we can do is sit and watch what they dish out on our plates. Yes, all the Hurculean work we did thru petitions, letters, etc to bring back CB2 is beyond worthy of praise, and kudos to our collective efforts. But now it seems we will have to continue to bang on the heads of these respective bunch of "people" even thru the entire serial while on air, because same ungrateful fate like CB will be unbearable to say the least.



Thanks Shrel what an analysis I remembered when Buniyaad used to come our neighbours were one such family and they used to tell their bits and we used to listen to them. Very true that when Cb2 starts and we will have lots of discussions on the forum but still we all will be interested to see the actors again they have made such a mark on us here that we r all eagarly looking forward for the official announcement and again have to see what tracks and story line will be shown.😊😛
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Posted: 14 years ago
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TRPs during the days of Buniyaad and Hum Log were not required because DD was the only channel then. Also TV was a new form of entertainment and people were glued to TV sets.
Though we all get nostalgic about good old DD days now, but there were its own negatives too. Social visits by friends and relatives had dwindled bcos if we go to anyone's house they all used to be glued to TV and do not talk. If someone else came to our house, we would think oh! I couldn't watch my fav show (there were no repeat telecast during those days too.) Films took a beating bcos of TV as well.
I haven't seen one single episode of Bidaai but I do agree with Parul Chauhan because I saw the archieve TRPs and what she says is true about it being successful and having decent numbers until it was closed.
TRPs in these times are just a measure of the popularity of the shows and if a show is not good, it will get PANNED. Viewers in India have no mercy as, there are dime-a-dozen channels and shows these days. For viewers, if not this, then something else, they just move on.
So, for a show to be successful it should have good script that can hold the viewer's attention and entertain them. A good script also doesn't mean, it has to be repeated 100s of times and bad acting can be forgiven. For such things, preperation time is very much required and much ahead of time. Just take for instance the 2 new shows that Zee is starting from 6-7pm, it was annoucned hardly a month back and they are going to be aired from Monday. What kind of preperation time did they get? And that also means they will not have banks-of-episodes by which they can handle emergency situations that arise due to anyone's non-availability.
This is not the case of these 2 new shows, this is the story of all shows across all channels. If enough time is not spend in preparing a show, then quality does suffer. Why blame TRPs when the quality of the shows is not good? During the DD days, the quality of the shows were good and that was because they used to be prepared well in advance as, the producers had to present it before DD, before they get approval and accepeted by DD .
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Posted: 14 years ago
#14
Bee5, your analysis is bang-on right and right on the money (pun intended !)
Last year when I was visiting sis in B'bay, that's exactly what she said ... "dime-a-dozen". The Q is if a huge majority in India feels that way, and lot of our IF members actually living in India, I notice that they dont share that view / sentiment. Does that mean that coincidentally they ALL form part of that minority ? If so, how can it be called a coincidence ?
Having read and experienced so many varying facets, I am frankly even more confused than clearer about the horrendous predicament the soaps in this decade have been subjected to ..😕
And also a huge number of us are from the western world and wonder if that makes us be more attached to those soaps which stir our souls, of course CB being one of the very few. And needless to say, coz here we dont have the luxury of 550 channels to choose from and thereby reduce the significance of a soap to naught. Thank God we dont, honestly !
So, coming to our collective analysis on this thread of Chalhov (PP Putija !) and many prior, wonder if it resolves anything one way or the other. Wait I take that back ! It does resolve one thing ... monnnnney, dough, bucks, dinara ... ultimately it's all a money game !
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Posted: 14 years ago
#15

Originally posted by: bee5

TRPs during the days of Buniyaad and Hum Log were not required because DD was the only channel then. Also TV was a new form of entertainment and people were glued to TV sets.

Bee Nice seeing ur post. I remember those days
Though we all get nostalgic about good old DD days now, but there were its own negatives too. Social visits by friends and relatives had dwindled bcos if we go to anyone's house they all used to be glued to TV and do not talk. If someone else came to our house, we would think oh! I couldn't watch my fav show (there were no repeat telecast during those days too.) Films took a beating bcos of TV as well.
Yes and suddenly all became couch potatoes and even when movies used to come TV rooms became mini halls with friends and servants all glued to TV those days we did not have so many commercial breaks
I haven't seen one single episode of Bidaai but I do agree with Parul Chauhan because I saw the archieve TRPs and what she says is true about it being successful and having decent numbers until it was closed.
TRPs in these times are just a measure of the popularity of the shows and if a show is not good, it will get PANNED. Viewers in India have no mercy as, there are dime-a-dozen channels and shows these days. For viewers, if not this, then something else, they just move on.

since the advent of regional channels more so 😆
So, for a show to be successful it should have good script that can hold the viewer's attention and entertain them. A good script also doesn't mean, it has to be repeated 100s of times and bad acting can be forgiven. For such things, preperation time is very much required and much ahead of time. Just take for instance the 2 new shows that Zee is starting from 6-7pm, it was annoucned hardly a month back and they are going to be aired from Monday. What kind of preperation time did they get? And that also means they will not have banks-of-episodes by which they can handle emergency situations that arise due to anyone's non-availability.

I think they have forgotten banking and preparation sometimes its a race and we see repeat episodes or half repeat episodes
This is not the case of these 2 new shows, this is the story of all shows across all channels. If enough time is not spend in preparing a show, then quality does suffer. Why blame TRPs when the quality of the shows is not good? During the DD days, the quality of the shows were good and that was because they used to be prepared well in advance as, the producers had to present it before DD, before they get approval and accepeted by DD .
there were both advantages and disadvantages then but now it is compromise on quality and morals and then money was always a issue then and now

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Posted: 14 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: radev24

Bee5, your analysis is bang-on right and right on the money (pun intended !)
Last year when I was visiting sis in B'bay, that's exactly what she said ... "dime-a-dozen". The Q is if a huge majority in India feels that way, and lot of our IF members actually living in India, I notice that they dont share that view / sentiment. Does that mean that coincidentally they ALL form part of that minority ? If so, how can it be called a coincidence ?
Having read and experienced so many varying facets, I am frankly even more confused than clearer about the horrendous predicament the soaps in this decade have been subjected to ..😕
And also a huge number of us are from the western world and wonder if that makes us be more attached to those soaps which stir our souls, of course CB being one of the very few. And needless to say, coz here we dont have the luxury of 550 channels to choose from and thereby reduce the significance of a soap to naught. Thank God we dont, honestly !
So, coming to our collective analysis on this thread of Chalhov (PP Putija !) and many prior, wonder if it resolves anything one way or the other. Wait I take that back ! It does resolve one thing ... monnnnney, dough, bucks, dinara ... ultimately it's all a money game !



Shrel just the write graphics .well still we all see till we get so fed up that we cannot tolerate.A song comes to my mind on this

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XOi1GzOgfc[/YOUTUBE]
Edited by chalhov - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#17
PP Putija, good one ... jeena yahan marna yahan,
aur kar bhi kya sakte hain
main yahan tum wahan !
(well, kam se kam rhyme to hota hai, dont knock it ! 😕)
My reply back 😆😉 what can I say, main to kuch bhi nahi ...
⭐️ (I know x 2, just so obsessed with this poem / shayri / dialog, but I think conveys at least some of the frustration, majboori ... hai na ?!?! ) ⭐️

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaohYQJLJ4I&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]

longer version ..

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeCgXUetgqo&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]

AAP
AAP KYA JANE MUJHKO SAMAJHTE HAIN KYA?
MAI TO KUCHH BHI NAHI

IS QADAR PYAR
ITNI BADEE QADAR BHEED KA MAIN RAKHUNGA KAHAN?
IS QADAR PYAR RAKHNE KE QABIL NAHI
MERA DIL MERI JAAN
MUJHKO ITNI MOHABBAT NA DO DOSTO-2
SOCH LO DOSTO
IS QADAR PYAR KAISE SAMBHALUNGA MAIN?
MAIN TO KUCHH BHI NAHI

PYAAR?
PYAAR IK SHAKHS KA AGAR MIL SAKE TO
BADEE CHEEZ HAI ZINDGI KE LIYE
AADMI KO MAGAR YE BHI MILTA NAHI
YE BHI MILTA NAHI
MUJHKO ITNI MOHABBAT MILI AAPSE-2
YE MERA HAQ NAHI MERI TAQDEER HAI
MAIN ZAMAANE KI NAZRON MEIN KUCHH NA THA-2
MERI AANKHON ME ABTAK WO TASVEER HAI
IS MOHABBAT KE BADLE MAI KYA NAZAR DOON?
MAIN TO KUCHH BHI NAHI

IZZATEIN
SHOHRATEIN
CHAAHATEIN
ULFATEIN
KOI BHI CHEEZ DUNIYA ME RAHTI NAHI
AAJ MAIN HOON JAHAAN KAL KOI AUR THA-2
YE BHI IK DAUR HAI WO BHI IK DAUR THA

AAJ ITNI MOHABBAT NA DO DOSTO-2
KI MERE KAL KI KHATIR NA KUCHH BHI RAHE
AAJ KA PYAR THODA BACHA KAR RAKHO-2
MERE KAL KE LIYE


KAL?
KAL JO GUMNAAM HAI
KAL JO SUNSAAN HAI
KAL JO ANJAAN HAI
KAL JO VEERAAN HAI
MAIN TO KUCHH BHI NAHIN HOON
MAIN TO KUCHH BHI NAHIN

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