whats so special about CB ? - Page 5

Thanks to all my friends here who have discussed at great length why CB was special and I concurr with all your views and enjoyed reading all your posts.

really loved the way how each and evryone have put forward so many reason tht made cb an unique show... reading the views hv made me evn more addicted to cb forum and ultimately to the show... thanks neerja fr opening such a lovely post

Originally posted by: radha_bilahari

Thanks to all my friends here who have discussed at great length why CB was special and I concurr with all your views and enjoyed reading all your posts.

There are a few things which could have been dealt with a lot of care and sensitivity.

1) One scene that comes to my mind is when Vaishali gives Radhika various reasons why she has to back out of the marriage with Dev and how she is expecting her parents to come and tell her that they called off this marriage. That was ahugely traumatic scene for Radhika and the way Shastriji came and spoke in Radhika's defense to Vaishali was exactly the way a father would feel for his child. Shastriji could always support Radhika when it comes to anybody expect his own mother. He always tried to reason out with her and explain in his own ways how he considered Radhika as his own child and not an adopted one. His weakness was his inability to put sense in his mother's mind.

2) in continuation of the above---when Dev comes into the picture he knows how his mother has tried to manipulate and influence Radhika to back out of this marriage. Dev was stead-fast in his decision and come what may he was not accepting this and he was willing to forego his other relationships and go ahead and marry Radhika. This is because of the immense love for Radhika because of which we all liked him alot. the question now is, how different was he from Shastriji? Was he able to convinve his mother enough such that she does not commit the same mistake again? by saying that he will disown his family he ensured that Vaishali does not want to stay away fromher son and was willing to go ahead with the marriage, but did it prevent her from trying to curtail this marriage till the very end? no, She was the one who came along with Dev to ask Shastriji to give permission for Vishaka to stay for the marriage, she came along with Mrin to hand over the shagun which was meant for radhika to Vishaka, she also wanted the mehendi (Radha-Rani) to be applied first on Vish and not Radhika, after accepting that she wants to see that Radhika and Dev get married she took quite a while to give the pooja-thali to Radhika during Karva-chauth.

My question here is though both Shastriji and Dev loved Radhika dearly and could fight for her and support her against the world, both of them were found to be lacking when it came to their respective mothers and were not able to convey their message effectively and put the matter to rest. Indirectly Vaishali as Dev's mother lent external support to amma--shastrii's mother to carry out the heinous crime of burning Radhika on her wedding day.

Your thoughts please.

Radha I know that Shastrji always considered Radhika to be his own child but his weakness was not only his failure to put sense in his mothers mind..........but it was the way he dealt with his mother. He used to speak to his mother as if she was a spoilt child. Even knowing that his mother has tried to burn Radhikas hands in that Mehendi fiasco he still pleaded with his mother when amma was creating all the drama regarding leaving the house. Didn't he realize what his mother is capable off in her hatred for Radhika? He realized what was going on but he never put his foot down regarding both his daughters. Also he did not stand up to the society when Radhika was not allowed to enter the inner sanctum of the temples. He was the perfect person to do so..........he had the knowledge of the scriptures with him but he did use them when it was needed. That is why for me Shastriji was a person with a very good heart and very good intentions but he was steeped in age old traditions that he did not have the courage to break. Maybe the reason was that since he was poor he depended on society to support him and his family. So he could not afford to go against society. He himself knew that and I think he did once tell Dev that he could not give Radhika her rights and he wanted Dev to give them to her.........because he knew that Dev had the strength of character and mind to go against others opinion if he thought what he was doing is right.........and being a Raj Purohit he also had the power to do it. The last of the sentence is what sets Dev apart from Shastriji.

Coming to their mothers.......no one can convince any other person to do something if he or she does not want to do anything about it. ........and there lies the difference between Vaishali and amma. It is true that Dev tried to make Vaishali understand and Vaishali only said yes because she was scared that she will loose Dev......here Dev should have also told what had happened to dadima because then she would have been careful regarding handling Vaishali. It is also true that one might say that Vashali was indirectly responsible for the burning. In that way Devki could also be held responsible.........because Devki told amma that until Radhika is alive Dev will not think about anyone else. Devki did not tell amma Dev will never think about anyone else other than Radhika as his wife......her being dead or alive does not come into the equation. But the choice of lighting that fire was ammas alone........Vaishali or Devki did not hold a gun to ammas head and told her to light the fire. She did that out of her own free will. Loads of time we are also told to do things, but we usually take a step back and think about it and then usually do things what we feel is right. Amma actually thought about it and then decided to take that step......she was not a kid that she did not understand what she was doing. So although one might say that Vaishali and Devki might have instigated amma but the decision to light the fire was ammas alone.

After marriage when Vaishali realized that Dev could easily leave everything for Radhika and it is Radhika who will stop him from doing so, she realised the true worth of Radhika and did apologise to Radhika and accepted her as Choti bahu.....but amma even after being shown the truth time and again did not change hersel.......the difference to me is that Vaishali knew that Dev will leave her but amma knew that whatever happens Shastriji might get angry but will not leave her. Like Radhika, Dev was also not perfect..........he also had his faults like any other person but I liked him because he was Dev..........and since he was Dev he wanted to do anything in his power to make Radhika happy. I also like Radhika not because she was sweet and kind person (that did play a part), I liked her for being Radhika.

Sorry my thoughts became a bit too long Radha.😳

Misti,

Originally posted by: radha_bilahari

Misti,

I knew this is going to be your response. Many times we have discussed and know for a fact that talking about amma always ensured huge reactions from the members of this forum and how she had no sense of remorse till the very last day and how she escaped scot-free without any punishment. for me since Vaishali was an ex-RP she was a sophisticated amma, the reason being I almost felt that she was quite relieved that Radhika had the accident on the marriage day and this whole thing could be put-off or delayed which would mean that she had enough time to set in doubts in everybody's mind.

Knowing fully well the bangle burning episode what could Dev as RP do when Radhika was burnt. It is totally a different matter that Radhika refused to point fingers at amma and hence he could not take action. He could have shared his thoughts with Shastriji just in order to keep him informed about the diabolic actions of amma.

I have nothing much to say about Deviki's contribution to the whole fiasco as I also agree with all you have expressed.

Vaishali's acceptance of Radhika was from the point of view of how she will support Dev in being A successful RP which was paramount for her, a good CB which was second in her list of priorities and thirdly for Dev who finds complete happiness with Radhika. In all this where did Vaishali love Radhika for what she is?

Radha I know we have had similar discussion before in MIs. Although Vaishali was shocked when Radhika got burned.....I mean even Chachoo's initial reaction was off shock and he was shouting at Arjun to call for the ambulance........but in some way she did want to make use of this opportunity to stop the wedding. Even after the marriage happened she was after Radhika.

As for her being ex-RP who should have realized what is right and what is wrong.....I have a slightly different view here. For me it is not necessary that people in powerful position are always responsible and wise to make the correct decision. That is why I believe that power should not be given to the wrong person because then it can be misused. Athough Vaishali was an ex-RPtian, she herself was a very insecure person who was obsessed about her position and her families position in society. Most of the time she used to do whatever her husband or dadima used to tell her. So her decision as an RPtian might not have been her own thoughts but what these two people told her that she should do. If she really understood the responsibilities of an RPtian then she would not have given her son up just for some superstition. Her initial acceptance of Radhika as a wife for Dev did not come from the fact that she liked Radhika but that she knew that Dev needed a wife to fulfill his duties and no good family will be ready to give their daughter to Purohits as a second wife of Dev. So I am not saying that Vaishali loved Radhika........but to me she was not a sophisticated amma. The reason is again what I said before when she realised that Radhika will do whatever it is in her power to keep the family together......she did show remorse and then supported Radhika........that support might not have been out of love but that support was there in whatever way she could. It is this remorse and her saying sorry to Radhika and meaning it that set Vaishali apart from amma in my eyes. Amma was not insecure......all her excuses and the reasons she gave for society were just a front.....the truth was that whatever she did for Radhika was out of hatred ..nothing else and because she knew that she could. But one thing I will give to amma and that is she was open about her feeling for Radhika, whereas Vaishali being a weaker person was not open and she used underhand means to put Radhika down. Now whether later on Vaishali started to love Radhika or not....I think we got a glimpse of her when Radhika was pleading to Abhay in MR's house.....Vaishali came and dragged Radhika away. That to me showed that at that point Vaishali did start to have some feelings towards Radhika. But after that episode everything became topsy turvey in CB and whatever was left of the story went down the drain courtsy of Zee and the DJs. For me the best way to show Vaishalis changed feeling towards Radhika would have been was to throw her in a situation where she would have had to choose between Radhika or Abhay. I think you know what situation I am talking about. So I am not excusing Vaishali but just trying to analyse her character.

As for Dev and Shastriji not putting two and two together regarding the burning when everything was there in front of the eyes.....they should have but again I think that was another situation where the script was played with by Zee and DJs.

Neerja & Misti,