Are we responsible for making/breaking CB?

We did not like the ONS track, we pointed to violating Kaanha and Vrindavan theme and went tsk, tsk, tsk!

We did not like the idea of Shaantanu leering Radhika, pointed to Radhika and Dev's eternal and divine love and went tsk, tsk, tsk!

We saw that some were meted out Kaanha's justice, others went scot free and went tsk, tsk, tsk!

Radhika being forced into widowhood was gruesome to watch and we went tsk, tsk, tsk!

The famous Mishti circles are introduced and the tsk, tsk, tsk, starts at each attempt!

Lately every attempt they make to chase the TRPs, we go tsk, tsk, tsk at the Creatives!

Originally posted by: gardes

I know I have been negative about the episodes in recent months and there is a reason behind it. No, not the usual negative blah, blah, blah about DJs and Zee TV Creative teams.

This time it is with less disdain and more sympathy. Yes, really! Me! 😉

My reason for being negative until recently was that the Creative team had a short term plan on this story that never went beyond the wedding. They thought that adding some formula stuff will keep them in the limelight. Well, it did not work out that ways!

Since none of the other characters were ever developed, the Creative team was and is restricted in developing stories around Dev and Radhika only . The leads and the other characters are twisted to fit the story, making it go nowhere but in circles.

The TRPs have plummeted and now the show is being overhauled. If you pay close attention to recent episodes, the Creatives are trying to get away from the whole Vrindavan and RP theme and overhauling the characters.

Why? Because.....

We did not like the ONS track, we pointed to violating Kaanha and Vrindavan theme and went tsk, tsk, tsk!

We did not like the idea of Shaantanu leering Radhika, pointed to Radhika and Dev's eternal and divine love and went tsk, tsk, tsk!

We saw that some were meted out Kaanha's justice, others went scot free and went tsk, tsk, tsk!

Radhika being forced into widowhood was gruesome to watch and we went tsk, tsk, tsk!

The famous Mishti circles are introduced and the tsk, tsk, tsk, starts at each attempt!

Lately every attempt they make to chase the TRPs, we go tsk, tsk, tsk at the Creatives!

It seems that we the forumers have trapped the Creative teams in their own Chakravyuh. I have not watched recent episodes with as much interest and have not watched since last week at all due to family committments, but I have read updates and MIs almost daily.

Slowly and steadily, I have noticed that there is less and less Kaanha involvement. There are less rituals, less aarti and mostly, they moved from under the RP umbrella in Delhi and now Vrindavan and moved to Agra. This will allow the Creatives to introduce more and more formula stuff in their chase after the all-elusive TRPs. It will give them the freedom to take liberties with the characters, let go of some and introduce some new ones.

think again. Forget Dev

If anyone believes that this story will revert back to old Vrindavan, Kaanha Bhakt and divine love story, and Radhika and their divine love. Forget how the story started in December 2008. Forget RPship. The Creatives JUST CANNOT SUSTAIN THE THEME ANY MORE!!

It ain't happening, folks! You are in for a chilla-chaalu soap opera with triangles and shifting characters. The fact that they are dependent on us to provide fodder says a lot. Dev and Radhika will struggle and the story will be like any other soap opera on TV these days.

I, for one, will watch when I can and read when I can't watch. All I can say is, please stop looking for logic or continuity. The Creatives are trapped and the standard soap opear route is all that they can produce!

Poor dears! 😃

Gardes,

Originally posted by: gardes

I know I have been negative about the episodes in recent months and there is a reason behind it. No, not the usual negative blah, blah, blah about DJs and Zee TV Creative teams.

Gardes you being negative?......from my point of view you are being realistic......being realistic is different from being negative....this is how I think and interpret your writings.

This time it is with less disdain and more sympathy. Yes, really! Me! 😉

My reason for being negative until recently was that the Creative team had a short term plan on this story that never went beyond the wedding. They thought that adding some formula stuff will keep them in the limelight. Well, it did not work out that ways!

Since none of the other characters were ever developed, the Creative team was and is restricted in developing stories around Dev and Radhika only . The leads and the other characters are twisted to fit the story, making it go nowhere but in circles.

This is also one of the resons for their failure as creatives.....not developing the secondary characters.......any decent screenplay writer knows that a drama serial cannot go on for more than a year just around the central characters........it can only go around the central characters if these characters are distorted or made weak and thats what the CB creatives are doing.....they still have the scope to develop the secondary characters.......but do they have the guts for it because that would mean giving up on TRPs for some weeks and just spending time with character developement.......or do these creatives have that capability?

The TRPs have plummeted and now the show is being overhauled. If you pay close attention to recent episodes, the Creatives are trying to get away from the whole Vrindavan and RP theme and overhauling the characters.

Why? Because.....

We did not like the ONS track, we pointed to violating Kaanha and Vrindavan theme and went tsk, tsk, tsk!

ONS track was the creatives decision and not ours........if they as creatives had realised what CB was all about then they would not have taken that route.....they chose a track which clashed with CB main story and hence the audience left and TRPS plumetted........so thats not our fault.

We did not like the idea of Shaantanu leering Radhika, pointed to Radhika and Dev's eternal and divine love and went tsk, tsk, tsk!

Actually the creatives lost a golden oppurtunity with Shantanus track....if only they had used Shantanu as a psychological weapon...........and not a stick beating murderer the track would have become interesting......but again the creatives were more interested in the TRPs so kept on changing Shantanu as per TRPs and that messed up the track. Personally I lost interest because I got confused as to what Shantanu is in this story.

We saw that some were meted out Kaanha's justice, others went scot free and went tsk, tsk, tsk!

Again inconsistency shown by the creatives, confusing the audience and driving them away.

Radhika being forced into widowhood was gruesome to watch and we went tsk, tsk, tsk!

Using regressive rituals will drive people away.

The famous Mishti circles are introduced and the tsk, tsk, tsk, starts at each attempt!

Ah my circles.......actually they are not mine, they are the creatives......I just picked them up........I actually don't mind the circles.......infact if they use it properly then they can get tracks out of them even now......but the circles do make the story boring, becuase the audience can predict what is going to happen.

Lately every attempt they make to chase the TRPs, we go tsk, tsk, tsk at the Creatives!

Well if the attempts are ridiculous then the audience will go tsk tsk....

It seems that we the forumers have trapped the Creative teams in their own Chakravyuh. I have not watched recent episodes with as much interest and have not watched since last week at all due to family committments, but I have read updates and MIs almost daily.

I am not with you on this one....it is the creatives who have trapped themselves into this chkravyuh and it started from July last year.......when they started playing with the characters and the story line......The problem was they never expected his serial to be so popular so were not prepared when the TRPs started coming in......and once they got addicted to the high TRPs it became quite difficult for them to get over this addiction.

Slowly and steadily, I have noticed that there is less and less Kaanha involvement. There are less rituals, less aarti and mostly, they moved from under the RP umbrella in Delhi and now Vrindavan and moved to Agra. This will allow the Creatives to introduce more and more formula stuff in their chase after the all-elusive TRPs. It will give them the freedom to take liberties with the characters, let go of some and introduce some new ones.

If anyone believes that this story will revert back to old Vrindavan, Kaanha Bhakt and divine love story, think again. Forget Dev and Radhika and their divine love. Forget how the story started in December 2008. Forget RPship. The Creatives JUST CANNOT SUSTAIN THE THEME ANY MORE!!

It ain't happening, folks! You are in for a chilla-chaalu soap opera with triangles and shifting characters. The fact that they are dependent on us to provide fodder says a lot. Dev and Radhika will struggle and the story will be like any other soap opera on TV these days.

Yes it is true that the spiritual aspect has gone and now it is more the normal soap formula.......this two women and one man is the current in fashion formula. But there is still scope for it to recover........but as I have said before for that to happen the creatives have to forget about TRPS for some weeks.........also I don't think it is possible by this current group of creatives...........for that they need to spend money and get some good writers, which for some reason they are not interesed in doing.

I, for one, will watch when I can and read when I can't watch. All I can say is, please stop looking for logic or continuity. The Creatives are trapped and the standard soap opear route is all that they can produce!

Well I have my humour.😉

Poor dears! 😃

😉

Originally posted by: bee5

gardes,
Yes, I understand the part when you said, this time you are writing with less disdain and more sympathy ...bcos I have almost reached that stage myself too.

With so much crap, now I don't even feel like reading or writing on the forum. Whats the point.

I agree, they did not develop any other character initially and concentrated only on Dev & Rad .. but since they had such a solid material at hand, they were good for so many months. Still even during those times, some people really got fed up of Radhika and left the show.

Now, after they have exhausted their solid material, they tried all the "antics" they could , (to which I give 0 marks) and they failed miserably, the all-time low TRPs as the proof. Here again instead of writing something good, they tell themselves what the formula was for their good TRPs earlier and chalk out a plan to do the same with a slight twist that makes it happen (which is accident and memory loss crap).

So, with this accident and memory loss, they can separate Dev & rad though keep them close and make one pursue the other. For this Shantanu was made the bali-ka-bakra and hence they did not give importance to Shantanu-vaishali tracks. ONS backfired and rightly so, bcos of the range of audience they have for this show. Bride set afire for no reason. Everything forgotten and forgiven very simply.

Hence, can I say they are not planning? No, they are planning, but in a wrong direction. They don't read the comments they should and they don't take the TRPs the way they should. I just pity them for this kind of thinking. Thats all. So, all these days of Radhika shooting her mouth off was to say their crappy story ahead.

Now, they are again back to showing Radhika bechari and mahaan ... super-imposing their story.

BTW, I read that they have dismantled the set which was PB earlier, so the story will not be going back there, going forward. So, they aren't going to close any of the loose ends that they have created in the last 1 month just like they haven't shown closing of a lot of dangling storylines. As number of viewer, there would be that many view points. There are a lot of things thats written on forum, but can't they in their full sense pick what is right for their theme of story and continue to say that? I agree to you fully when you say that the forumers have trapped the Creative teams in their own chakravyuh and actually this is what I was thinking since the last few days .. and Yes, I say the same .. tsk tsk tsk!

And being on air for one of years (as someone said) is no reason to have this poor show in the recent past. The shoddy work is bcos of a reason that goes way long back. Some of the shows that enjoy the higher TRPs are bcos of a reason and its high time the DJs stop this shoddy work and give this serial a decent ending that they started in the name of Kanha.

Originally posted by: bee5

Why3,
I just read your comments after I posted mine and wanted to clarify that I wasn't referring to you when I wrote one of the stmts that seems its against what you are saying.