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Posted: 16 years ago
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As we have all seen Dev loves Radh madly and truly, he tried his best to find her and marry her but for the fate & Amma too😔he cldnt😭😭. Dev doesnt give Vish her right to be his wife, fights with his mother, tries to find Radh with the help of payal. He does meet her shares his true feelings, tells her that he only loves her and no one else. Dev is doing all he can within his means, fighting with family and destiny and Radh is doing nothing but sacrificing for those who not only maltreat her but dont even regard her emotions. Amma is the worst who curses and punishes her at every given opportunity. Now as simi2006747 had mentioned we dont even know whether Radh really loves Dev or is it just attraction becoz no one gave her love and affection?
Doesnt Dev deserve someone better than Radh? Someone who loves him in retn, at least, not comparing more or less.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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hmm.. i do think Radhika if given an opportunity will love Dev more than anyone else in the world.. but the problem is that she has put her heart on a tight leash. She is attracted to him (and who wouldn't be especially when he is falling at her feet for her love)... its the first time she is being made feel special and actually that someone considers her precious..more than anything else in the world..(i loved how Dev tried to bring her to conciousness.. the way he looked so pained to see a scratch on her feet.. it was showing the extent he cares for her every pain and happiness).
obviously she'll bend in that direction...but her love is definitely not of the level that Dev has for her.. NOT YET..and its natural because she has never really allowed herself to love him that deep.

First he was just a stranger..
then as she started to feel something
He became her future jija ji
so she stopped herself in the tracks
But then she found out he loves her deeply and she got married to him happily..
but just when she took a moment to let herself claim to be his wife..
that right was taken away from her.
She was brianwashed into believing that she has not rights and it belongs to Vish
So back to square 1.. she put her heart (with great difficulty) on a leash again.. not allowing herself to think of him.
So obviously her love has not had the opportunity to grow and florish into full fledged.. deewangi.

Whereas

Dev has always and only thought about her since the day he met her. His heart and mind have not diverted from the course of love at any given point. So his feelings are felt much deeper.

It will take some time for Radhika to feel the pangs of love like Dev does.
For not her duty (whether we agree wiht it or not) is her priority. The people she has known and loved all her life are her priority.

So its not a matter of.. Dev loves her more and Radhika doesn't deserve that love because she doesn't love him back with the same intensity... its that Radhika is not given a chance to love him back.

IMO running away with a married man (who is another woman's husband in the eyes of society) is not the way to prove love. If you ask why she hasn't told Dev the truth and claimed her rights.. then this action will cause her father mother and sister to never be able to live in peace.. the family will be ostrasized for their actions.. Brij Mohan is a pandit.. if the world finds out that such sin and decit has happened in his home.. they'll stop giving him work.. the family will suffer due to it.. and Radhika just cannot be the reason for that dishonor and suffering...

no matter how Amma treats her.. most likely if it weren't for the Shashtri family, Radhika would be in a worser condition. So she is going to be eternally grateful to them.. and frankly other than Amma.. the Shashtris really have loved her. Brij Mohan only is silent when he has to follow the norms set by the socitey they live in that doesn't allow Radhika to enter the mandir because he too has to live in that socitey peacefully. But he loves her like a daughter. Vish has selfish ambitions but she does consider Radhika a sister... Sisterly relationships are not always filled with sweetness..there is bitter part of it too. But Vish was genuinely happy for Rads when she thought Rads was getting married.. or when she heard Rads came to see her.. and Vish listens to Radhika's logics and follows her home whenever Radhika scolds her.. this is all part of being a sister. Her selfish nature takes over her goodness but Vish does see her as a sister never the less.

I dont' want to say much about Devki.. because i think she loves Vish more than Rads but i won't blame her for it. She is influenced by Amma's thoughts.

Ok this post got long and i think i was rambling..

so the point is i don't judge Rads are a culprit for not returning Dev's feelings in the same amount.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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lol. he doesnt need any mahaan women.Any normal women will be best for him šŸ˜‰
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Radhika does love Dev... It is shown clearly but since she is not very open about her feelings, they didn't show much about that. But she told Kanah that she loves him and asks him why she couldn't forget him..... I think that is enough to prove that she loves him.....
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: kristie12

Radhika does love Dev... It is shown clearly but since she is not very open about her feelings, they didn't show much about that. But she told Kanah that she loves him and asks him why she couldn't forget him..... I think that is enough to prove that she loves him.....

I wanted to make exactly this point in that other topic. Radhika does LOVE Dev and she accepts it before the wedding when Dev talks to her alone. Kanha asks her to listen to her heart and then give an answer. It is not just a mere atttraction but its Love. But she is sacrificing her and Dev's happiness for her family.
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No i disagree...i think its LOVE for Radhika yet. She is attracted.. not about the physical merely.. but attracted to Dev who loves her...adores her.. she thought of returning the feelings. The attraction grew to something more.. an admiration.. like even and then she got married to him.

but if she really LOVES him.. then its not properly portrayed in the show. Merely accepting that you love someone you have met only a few times and who claims to love you madly is not proof of love. She answered Kanha truthfully about what she knows to be love.

But what Dev did.. refusing to accept a woman who claims to be his wife because he has a deep instated belief that he can only belong to the woman in his heart.. going against his family.. talking to his mother for the woman he loves...and doing so forcefully.. thats a man madly in LOVE and not just a like or attraction (why he feels so strongly about Radhika still beats me..but whatever).

Radhika on the other hand.. finds it easy to ignore his pain at the lies she is telling him because to her her family is more important. Vishakha's happiness is more important. She firmly believes that he'll forget her and accept Vish. Whenver she has thought about the situation she is in (after the initial shock of being told htat she is not really married)..since then all she's thought about is Vishakha being happy with Dev.. its not at all about Dev being happy with Vish because if she gives that thought a chance, she'll know that Dev will never be happy with Vish. That was evident in the way she asked Vish if Dev is alright with the clothes she is wearing or the ambitions she is still following.

Like the way in today's epi she couldn't bare that Devki wasn't talking to her. In an instant she got desperate.. thats a desperation that comes from love. She loves Devki ..Devki is mother to her and Devki's naraazgi makes a big difference in her life. At the same time Dev's little issues don't. The moment Vish said "Bas itna hi pyaar karti hai mujhe" her expression changes from scolding Vish to feeling guilty. Yes she did flinch before lying to Dev but was that because she was hurting him.. maybe.. or was it more that she was lying..

IMO.. when you love someone that deep.. their every little thing matter to you the most. Like Dev's expression at seeing the scratch on Radhika's feet.

Now its possible that Radhika does love Dev with all her heart and is just not expressing it becuase its forbidden for her... but i can only say what i see on screen. And so far Rads has cared more for her family than for Dev. Which i don't hold her guilty for.. but that how i feel.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Thanks jinc118 for the beautiful and well presented views.
You are right that Radh hasnt grown to understand love or experience it the way Vish has been, to share what one truly feels and demand what one desires. As u have put it" heart on tight leash" . Understandably Radh is conditioned so much into servitude, that she restrains herself from anything that gives happiness. But shdnt she realise that all this quiet suffering and pain will not yeild happiness to anyone. Radh is now fully aware of Vish aim & intent to become an actress at any cost but she is still pointlessly trying to compel her into a loveless marriage.
As regards the truth abt Radh-Dev marriage that will be out, you cant hide it for long and honestly the sooner the better. Radh is well aware now of Dev's feelings and Vish plan to become actress, its her who has to decide to take the right path or the wrong one. I am not implying that she runs away, which is wrong but show some semblence of emotions & react. Her coldness makes it will look like as if Dev is forcing himself into one sided love. Her sacrifice cannot make Dev love Vish ( Its not like a power supply plug that u can use whichever is available/working) Dev infact told her this. Hence her attempt to sacrifice is futile.
What I find most strange is when Kanha came and asked Radh to reflect back on her feelings with Dev ( marrige scene) and later He ( Well-bucket and stone head injury) also asked her ponder "what HE wants"? I had expected that it stirs her thoughts and makes her contemplate on events but that didnt happen. Radh is into sacrificing mode, despite Dev having poured his heart out to her, Kanha himself telling her? Here I do wish that the creative show Radh's converstations with Lord Krishna who explains her the right and need to take actions. This can also form the basis of Radh's transition from a timid insecure girl to a self respecting strong individual.
My point was from Dev's perspective that he is following the Lord Krishna's teachings in the true as he is making efforts to achieve his goal, vis a vis Radh who despite deep inside her heart secretly wishes she cld be united with Dev but tries to overcome that feeling due to her obligation to Shastri family. Now isnt it dichotomy that Radh being an ardent follower of Lord Krishna, fails to practice his teachings whereas Dev does who doesnt claim and hasnt been shown to be a follower turns out to be doing his 'karm'. Even from a non believers perspective, unless we act how can we expect a result? After Radh, Devki doesnt act or react much.
Vish showering sisterly concernšŸ˜†, I dont think so. Vish charac has been shown to be self-centred, she doesnt care abt her parents or Amma who dotes on her. Vish only tolerates Radh since she serves her and is party to her secret dealings. It was Vish who bluntly told Devki that Radh didnt accompany them and how come she didnt inform her? Vish cleverly uses the sitn to her adv as and when reqd, she is ready to use Devki/Amma/Shastri-ji - Viashali, Daadi whoever is ready to fall preyšŸ˜†. Vish is completely focussed on her career and I think it was Shastri-ji mistake to get her married. Now we will get to see her go-getter side by hook or crook.
Its only Radh who is seeing relns with Shastri-family and its not the Shastri's who ever made her feel like a family member. Devki felt bad becoz she felt insecure abt Vish? Had Radh been their biological daughter then wld she been subjected to such deploring treatment? Wld Devki still substitute Vish with Radh? Defi No, its prejudice in their treatment. A wrongful decn has been taken by Amma-DEvki and Radh is only supporting the wrong. Is that right?
If Radh is obstinate to sacrifice her right and so called love then doesnt that bolster the piont that Dev must move on? How much can dev do alone? When Radh doesnt even take a small step?
Just adding the scene where Dev sees the wound on Radh foot was touching. The pain and care expressed by Dev was so touching😳😳 When Radh tells him she cant support him, it had torn Dev's heart apart😭😭 and he cldnt even cry or be angry at her.
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>Kristie & devashree_h , Adding more to what Jinc118 put forth, Radh presumes that its love and besides at that point of time she was saving the reputation of Shastri family. Radh was hesitant in her yes and only after Kanha repeatedly asked her,she said yes. It wld have been the same had Shastriji asked her since Radh feels so indebted to them for her life that she wld do anything to fulfill their wishes and repay the gratitude. She infact hasnt experienced love in the true sense, some care or concern from Shastri's doesnt amount to love. This is first exp towards the emotion of love but sadly instead of accepting it and dwelling into it she is already striking it off from her life conveniently. Had it been love fro Radh wldnt it have been tough for her to sacrifice? Dev was agonised when Radh said she is going to get married but Radh was unmoved. She goes on to shower her concern on Devki who wasnt ignoring her. Sometimes I think who on earth allowed the Shastris to adopt? They have maltreated Radh in the name of adoption. SImply turned her into a glorified servant.
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I didn't say that Rads doesn't understand love. But what i had said what that she has never experienced the kind of love that Dev is showering her with.. its new and usually people are scared of new experiences. but when its also thrillinig and makes you feel good.. you like to try it. That should have been Rads first reaction to Dev. But that attraction was not given as chance to makes its place firm in her heart is what i was saying.

Whether her sacrifice works or not is not in her hands.. and she cannot forsee that it will only cause suffering. What she sees is that if she tells Dev the truth it will for sure ruin Vishakha's life and more over the life of Shashtris in Vrindavan.. they no longer will be able to live in the pious city when people come to know and their "rozi-roti" that comes from performing poojas in mandirs will be cut. How can she be the catalyst for that tragedy on the family that has bread her for all these years. Whether you agree they loved her or not.. even for a second if I put aside that some of them see her as family and go with you judgement that she is no more than a servant to all of them.. even then.. they have provided for her..they took the decision to take her in as an infant when obviously they wouldn't have made her a servant of the house. She probably started being "useful" to them much much later.. but they bread her till then... so i completely justify her efforts to keep their peace and happiness intact.

As for her knowing Vish's intentions.. what Vish told her is that she shouldn't care for a husband who doesn't care for her back. Those were Vish's exact words.. so Rads is obviously going to take that to mean that if Dev were to accept her and love her then she would not be going after her carreer like this. But since Dev is ignoring her.. she is looking for other avenues for her happiness. Thats the reason she thinks having Dev forget her and accept VIsh will work out for the better. And even after that.. she is seen praying to Kanha that he have Dev accept Vish as all Rads can do is keep Dev away from herself. She is doing what she can.. and leaving the rest to God to make right.

Now about Rads being oblivious to what Kanha wants.. tbh.. i stilll have no clue what Kanha wants. Rads is human.. a very simple gullible human at that. What she knows of god is from what she has learned from Shashtris.. when the Shashtri Amma says that Vish is Dev's wife according to Shashtr.. then Rads has no argument against it. She does not believe otherwise. Its another story that Kanha is trying to show her its otherwise.. but she is not fully understanding that point.. she is not the brightest human being.. so Kanha will have to do more than signs and symbols and talking in metaphors.. but ofcourse Gods are not known to be clear about their intentions.. eventually Kanha's intentions will be made clear to everyone.. till then don't blame the dense girl.

Rads not doing her karm??? you mean her duty as wife??? but when she doesn't believe herself to be Dev's wife.. how does the duty apply to her. She is misguided thanx to Amma and until that misgiving about her own rights is not cleared from her head there is no point in expecting her to behave as wife and lover. She keeps repeating how all rights belong to Vish.. cause thats her belief now.. so how will she act otherwise. She won't even allow herself to feel pain for Dev because its a sin as far as she is concerned. It will only change when she accepts that she has any rights as Dev's wife and choti bahu.

I am very angry with Devki so won't say anything. but Rads is not supporting wrong in her mind.. she believes Amma's logic to be the truth and thats what she is supporting.
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Originally posted by: jinc118

I didn't say that Rads doesn't understand love. But what i had said what that she has never experienced the kind of love that Dev is showering her with.. its new and usually people are scared of new experiences. but when its also thrillinig and makes you feel good.. you like to try it. That should have been Rads first reaction to Dev. But that attraction was not given as chance to makes its place firm in her heart is what i was saying.

On Radh feeling for love, we are on the same wavelength. Radh isnt giving love to bloom and as u said earlier "heart on leash", that sums it up aptly.

Whether her sacrifice works or not is not in her hands.. and she cannot forsee that it will only cause suffering. What she sees is that if she tells Dev the truth it will for sure ruin Vishakha's life and more over the life of Shashtris in Vrindavan.. they no longer will be able to live in the pious city when people come to know and their "rozi-roti" that comes from performing poojas in mandirs will be cut. How can she be the catalyst for that tragedy on the family that has bread her for all these years. Whether you agree they loved her or not.. even for a second if I put aside that some of them see her as family and go with you judgement that she is no more than a servant to all of them.. even then.. they have provided for her..they took the decision to take her in as an infant when obviously they wouldn't have made her a servant of the house. She probably started being "useful" to them much much later.. but they bread her till then... so i completely justify her efforts to keep their peace and happiness intact.
I agree with u that whether sacrifice gives the desirable result isnt in her hands. After Dev told her firmly that for him only she is befitting to be his wife and he did rather leave the city than succumb to the dictat. Vish is out of the pic, much more so since Radh is aware that Dev doesnt know she and Vish are sisters. Radh was unfortunately made the scapegoat when Amma-Devki substituted her. Even if Dev didnt love her still upholding the sanctity of rituals she is his wife. I mean whether Radh likes it or not she is already the 'bakri'šŸ˜†. The truth will come out and the later it comes the more harm it will cause to Shastri parivar, unless of course Dev goes out of his way & accepts Vish. For this to happen, both Dev and Vish need to put their hearts on leashesšŸ˜†šŸ˜†. As regards to rearing her, I am sorry but I abhor Shastri's for their maltreatment. People treat dogs better.

As for her knowing Vish's intentions.. what Vish told her is that she shouldn't care for a husband who doesn't care for her back. Those were Vish's exact words.. so Rads is obviously going to take that to mean that if Dev were to accept her and love her then she would not be going after her carreer like this. But since Dev is ignoring her.. she is looking for other avenues for her happiness. Thats the reason she thinks having Dev forget her and accept VIsh will work out for the better. And even after that.. she is seen praying to Kanha that he have Dev accept Vish as all Rads can do is keep Dev away from herself. She is doing what she can.. and leaving the rest to God to make right.
Vish always wished to be an actress and it was only when Radh tried to reason in the name of Dev-husband that Vish used the pretext of his cold behr. Had Dev not clearly shared his feelings it wld have hold weight that Radh tries to sacrifice but after Dev categorically dismissing off the marriage and societal dictats, the sacrifice is futile. Vish wld have still persisted with her career had Dev been loving her, this wld have enhanced her prospects. Vish never really participated in household chores nor was she interested in marriage thats why she ran away on her wedding night to meet Purab, doesnt that ring a bell to Radh that Vish isnt interested in marriage!! Precisely my point that only praying cannot yeild result, one needs to examine options and act accordingly. What Radh is doing is tying wrong edges.

Now about Rads being oblivious to what Kanha wants.. tbh.. i stilll have no clue what Kanha wants. Rads is human.. a very simple gullible human at that. What she knows of god is from what she has learned from Shashtris.. when the Shashtri Amma says that Vish is Dev's wife according to Shashtr.. then Rads has no argument against it. She does not believe otherwise. Its another story that Kanha is trying to show her its otherwise.. but she is not fully understanding that point.. she is not the brightest human being.. so Kanha will have to do more than signs and symbols and talking in metaphors.. but ofcourse Gods are not known to be clear about their intentions.. eventually Kanha's intentions will be made clear to everyone.. till then don't blame the dense girl.
Since the creatives have shown Kanha guiding her and talking to her, Radh listens and acts as per His wishes hence I thought she shd think abt His words. Kanha is the only true friend she has. Besides as per the article abt the show I thought it wld be great if the creatives explore this, to show us detail converstation betn Kanha and Radh and build on this, rather than leaving it haphazardly. My basis lies on what Kanha said to Radh that do u know what I want? I hope it was not mere words! It has some deeper meaning attached to it.

Rads not doing her karm??? you mean her duty as wife??? but when she doesn't believe herself to be Dev's wife.. how does the duty apply to her. She is misguided thanx to Amma and until that misgiving about her own rights is not cleared from her head there is no point in expecting her to behave as wife and lover. She keeps repeating how all rights belong to Vish.. cause thats her belief now.. so how will she act otherwise. She won't even allow herself to feel pain for Dev because its a sin as far as she is concerned. It will only change when she accepts that she has any rights as Dev's wife and choti bahu.
No,not as a wife right now. I meant that Radh must attempt to solve the predicament of her life, esp after Dev revealing his true feelings and being aware of the depth and purity of his love. Radh sacrifice isnt deluding Vish or Dev from their goals, hence she needs to wake up to realise that something else needs to be done. Amma can misguide her but Radh faith and bhakti for Kanha is more powerful and can lead her to the righteous path. I believe Kanha is guiding her towards her destiny but she has to actually take the walk.

I am very angry with Devki so won't say anything. but Rads is not supporting wrong in her mind.. she believes Amma's logic to be the truth and thats what she is supporting.
Me too, Devki pretends to be caring towards Radh but when it involves Vish she turns into Amma-2 minus the loud curses. Devki too dotes on Vish just like Amma but only her way is less glaring. She didnt teach Vish how to cook and was lecturing Radh on the 'kannkar' in rice!
The only hope is Shastri-ji or else I think may be Dev's Daadi will find the photo.

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