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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Neerjaa

Thank you Angie for this lovely video and your song and poem both are perfect ...I liked this movie as it has strong contents ..thanks misti for this song ..Angie , just see if these two songs connects with you ...AAja re padesi from Madhumati ..you do not have to use whole song , from radhika whae she is after dev to accept her ..

second one... Jane Woh Kaise Log The Jinke Pyar Ko Pyar Mila - Pyaasa
when Vivek tells dev to stay away from radhika and dev wants to tell the family ...he was on swing ,may be there is some other song is playing ..its june or may ...you will find the scenes ..
another one Kabhi Kabhi mere ...


Neerja, thanks for the songs. I will look into them. As far as Kabhi Kabhi is concerned, it is a very nice song but it has been so utilized in so many shows and movies that I feel saturated with this song.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Myra.nelly

Angie, the last vm is very beautiful, u used the scenes that i love the most from radev, really romantic 😊 And its true radhs is gorgeous both inside and outside and dear bholu must b real proud to have her 😉

Myra, thanks. Yes, these scenes were very romantic and I liked how they depicted the SR with bold Radhika and no ghungat. Avinash and Rubina of course excel in such scenes because they have great chemistry with each other. Yes, Radhika's character was beautiful inside and outside. Bholu dreamed of such a girl and that's why he fell so hard for her.



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Posted: 13 years ago
"She Walks in Beauty", so signifiant title, so beautiful poem and scenes. Thanks a lot, Angie!
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: misti73

Thanks Angie for the lovely VM and it does fit my imagination. I will be write a more tmrw...I am completely knackered with the work load and am now almost dropping off to sleep.


Misti, thanks for liking it. Sometimes the vision is different for every person and when I make VMs on songs suggested by others, I always wonder if these were type of scenes that were in mind. But this one was easy to make because I connected to it instantly. I was thinking of making one on the same topic but somehow I wasn't getting the right song. I have heard of mrityudand but hadn't heard this song before. The lyrics are very beautiful and you are right that this is one soothing song.

My sympathies to you for working so hard. I knew you must be busy with work as you are not coming that regularly on the forum these days. So take your time with everything.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: why6

Myra, thanks. Yes, these scenes were very romantic and I liked how they depicted the SR with bold Radhika and no ghungat. Avinash and Rubina of course excel in such scenes because they have great chemistry with each other. Yes, Radhika's character was beautiful inside and outside. Bholu dreamed of such a girl and that's why he fell so hard for her.




The SR was indeed orginal, liked her boldness and the way she pushed him on the bed..the girl always new what she wanted and i loved that abt her char 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
Edited by why6 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: why6


Neerja, the environment in CB1 forum in the first year and the environment in CB2 forum was very different.

There is a saying that success has many fathers whereas failure is an orphan. This was the case with CB1 and CB2 where everyone from the PH, channel and writing team claimed credit for the success of CB1 and tried to pass the buck on others (usually viewers who were offering valid criticism) on the failure of CB2. I don't think CB2 started because the creatives loved this product. It started because viewers wanted it back and both viewers and the show was treated disdainfully by its creatives.

I personally thought that CB2 had more potential in terms of ratings and survival than CB1 because I found characters of CB2 to be more grey and complex. The story also had more room to explore various characters. But these characters including the main characters were forcibly turned into one-dimensional characters in the second half of the show and instead the show concentrated on artificial characters.

Agree with you Angie , CB 1 was simple cindrella kind of love story , where as CB 2 was more complex with the story line with comlex character of the hero who had grey shade ...should had done wonders if had the will to go along the story line and executed with sincerity ...As for CB 1 , i identified with CB 1 in many way , small town mentality , innocence of Radhika from small town , who was ready to sacrifice for her adopted family , and i think she would have done the same for the family if was real family ...yes here it would have been mentioned that story was from 60,s or early 70,s...Guy who had unconditional love despite the difference in their background , which is very rare now .. Yes here i agree with you , CB 2 came because of the pressure of overseas viewers , otherwise why would have come again when they caricatured the show themselves in the later part of CB 1 ...But whatever , took the efforts to go all the way to Holkar,s fort with scenic beauty and shot there the early part of CB 2 ...yes must be temprary truce between the two to milk the cow and their differences started coming thus killing the show along with hero,s character ...When i just think of only story line , i find it quite intersting with intrigue factor ...
Rdhika Dev getting married in Childhood then when grew up, both meet again , both have some feelings for eachother then she gets engaged thinking Rohan to be her KK and suddenly comes to know Dev is her KK , Dev refused to accept the relations because of his obligations and she is ready to marry Rohan , marriage is not complete but she comes to house as his wife to convince Dev of their marriage..Rohan.s pretending and playing his game cunningly ,and then Dev saves her from Rohan.s clutches , meets a best friend from childhood who saves both of them and ready to help them ...Where was the problem in whole story , it was not saas bahu drama or was not merry go round ride like other shows ...Barkha , turns her tunes and slowly falls for Dev and wants to possess Dev by hook by crook ...Here they should have gone with logic ,keeping both the leads in centre , keeping Barkha in side , rohan active with his plans , maheshwari with her plotting and just falling in the pit herslf ...Where was the need for Kanha to come himself and then Asur then bhoot and last not least Radha rani with her ever smiling smile , was the last nail in the CB 2 ...
Edited by Neerjaa - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
Sometimes the vision is different for every person and when I make VMs on songs suggested by others, I always wonder if these were type of scenes that were in mind. ...Angie
Angie i agree with your above lines ...When you make a VM its your vision , you visualize the scenes which you think will gel with the song ...I just watch a scene and then some song clicks in my mind , that is only for that scene but you have to go all the way along with that song and add the scenes which goes with lines ...we all see the same with different perspective ...I found CB hs the old time feel with Dev Radhika characters , who had innocence and old world charm thats why always soulful , melodious and sog with lyrics come to mind ...
i had freezed this picture from one of your VMs as watching then some song crossed my mind ,,,its from movie Sanjog ...
Chala hai kahan ...listen to this song , may be it will not go all the way and the second one is from Baharon Ki Manji movie
Ye Daaman ...
just listen to this song , just Radhika,s picture clicked this song
here is the image from your vm.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJd0sNc6uHw[/YOUTUBE]

as for kabhi kabhi , i agree with you
Edited by Neerjaa - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
Sometimes the vision is different for every person and when I make VMs on songs suggested by others, I always wonder if these were type of scenes that were in mind. ...Angie
Angie i agree with your above lines ...When you make a VM its your vision , you visualize the scenes which you think will gel with the song ...I just watch a scene and then some song clicks in my mind , that is only for that scene but you have to go all the way along with that song and add the scenes which goes with lines ...we all see the same with different perspective ...I found CB hs the old time feel with Dev Radhika characters , who had innocence and old world charm thats why always soulful , melodious and sog with lyrics come to mind ...
i had freezed this picture from one of your VMs as watching then some song crossed my mind ,,,its from movie Sanjog ...
Chala hai kahan ...listen to this song , may be it will not go all the way and the second one is from Baharon Ki Manji movie
Ye Daaman ...
just listen to this song , just Radhika,s picture clicked this song
here is the image from your vm.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJd0sNc6uHw[/YOUTUBE]

as for kabhi kabhi , i agree with you
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yes Neerja the same scene different eye witness account
So true so true, Angie, can i request a VM ?
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Posted: 13 years ago
Friends, here is my next VM. This one is from Dev's perspective even though Radhika's feelings are also shown here. This is based on the song "Tum jo mil gaye ho" from the movie "Hanste zakm". This song really suits Dev as he found his destination when he got Radhika. The title of this poem is "The Anchor".

I initially titled this VM "Journey Home"; the title waken from a poem by Rabindranath Tagore. The poem doesn't really apply to this situation as it talks about one's spiritual journey. But I liked the title as it talks about one finding their way back after a lot of struggles (journey). So the way this VM shaped up, it seemed to be more appropriate.

But somehow this title was not totally working for me. So I have renamed it "The Anchor". Anchor in a figurative sense implies support or pillar. Radhika was Dev's support and he was hers too. But as Misti always wrote in her thread, he was insecure and needy. So he considered Radhika his anchor even more.

In this VM, Dev is expressing his need freely to Radhika and also showing his appreciation to her for being in his life. So this is something that was not shown in the show properly, but here I have tried to show it where he is showing her how she completed him by coming in his life.

This song's lyrics really suit Dev's character. But I am not sure if the VM has come out properly. It took me much longer to make this VM. I think one of the problem is that there are only five months of episodes from which I can create a story.. I can use parts of scenes from rest of episodes but they cannot be used to create a story from scratch. Since I am trying my best not to repeat scenes for VM and usually try to choose a different part of the same scene, now it is becoming difficult as certain type of scenes are very limited.

This song was also difficult because it combines joyous music followed by pensive lyrics in few places. So it was hard to make a consistent story. I ended up using couple of scenes that I have used before. In any case, this starts from the time when Dev accepts his relationship with Radhika and decides to finally makes a break by choosing her over his obligations. So it starts with the part where he is tentative and reserved with her. Then by the time their journey is over from the morning to the night, they are quite comfortable with each other and laughing/talking together. Then the rest of the scenes are where he expresses his appreciation of her and explains her importance to him. The last scene is when she is his wife in front of the society and they are at peace with each other.

Hope you like this interpretation.

In the meanwhile, the two poems that are somewhat related to my two titles - Journey Home and The Anchor are given below. I do not entirely understand either one of the poems fully, but I can see them a little bit in context of Dev's feelings. The first one is by Rabindranath Tagore and the second one is by Walt Whitman - an American poet. Again my interpretation is in context of this story of Dev and Radhika and is not the one that poets meant. The underlined lines are the ones that to me represents Dev's feelings about Radhika.

The last two lines of "Journey Home" to me is Dev's seeking assurance of Radhika's presence and Radhika soothing him by giving him assurance.



Journey Home (By Rabindranath Tagore)

The time that my journey takes is long and the way of it long.

I came out on the chariot of the first gleam of light, and pursued my
voyage through the wildernesses of worlds leaving my track on many a star and planet.

It is the most distant course that comes nearest to thyself,
and that training is the most intricate which leads to the utter simplicity of a tune.

The traveler has to knock at every alien door to come to his own,
and one has to wander through all the outer worlds to reach the innermost shrine at the end.

My eyes strayed far and wide before I shut them and said 'Here art thou!'

The question and the cry 'Oh, where?' melt into tears of a thousand
streams and deluge the world with the flood of the assurance 'I am!'

Fast Anchor'd Eternal O Love! (Walt Whitman)

Fast-anchor'd eternal O love! O woman I love!
O bride! O wife! more resistless than I can tell, the thought of you!
Then separate, as disembodied or another born,
Ethereal, the last athletic reality, my consolation,
I ascend, I float in the regions of your love O man,
O sharer of my roving life.


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNiiUNGYp1Y&feature=player_detailpage[/YOUTUBE]

Note: Please give honest feedback on what is not working for this VM. It helped me last time when Misti suggested some alternate interpretation because that time too the song did not work out the way I had thought it would.
Edited by why6 - 13 years ago

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