Mistis thoughts 9th december 2011

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Dev shows off his arrogance by saying that he has always seen the truth and heard the truth (which is not really true...he thinks that he always sees the truth and hears the truth, because that is what he wants to believe ..accepting that he can be wrong will be difficult for him...because he is arrogant, has ego and also believes that his sense of justice is very strong)...that's why he prefers believing that Radhika has changed now and hence will not attack Barkha...so he still thinks that the first attack happened when Radhika was wrong. So when Barkha questions him he says that it is not possible to not believe Rdahika now . He also acknowledges that Barkha has sacrificed for the family...and done a lot...So if Radhika has not done it, but Barkha is injured then who will get the blame? (ahh Virat!...is that why his characterization was changed yesterday and he bragged to others that he has killed the RPtian). Anyway when questioned by Barkha that she has given her side of story and given the proofs...why isn't Radhika giving her side...Dev allows it ...(the duty bound leader who will make his wife go through humiliation to prove herself to people so that he remains a just ruler...the idealist who only follows the ideals of duty ...hopefully he will be pulled back from falling in love with his ideals like his dada fell in love with...its good have ideals but not good to be someone who is in love with his ideals...because then the person falls in love with this image created in his mind and does anything possible to maintain that image...and also stop being a human being...and it is usually the close family that suffers the most...like in the case of dada, his children and grandchildren are suffering the most and have become a dysfunctional family). Radhika/kanah puts a stop to all these tests and says that's she is not doing any and tells Dev that maybe like the last time he does not believe in Radhika again...Dev tells her that the proofs all showed that time that she was wrong and Radhika reminds him that proofs can be doctored and to look for the answer in his heart (to listen to his inner being and he will get the answer)...Barkha realizes that she will lose the game if Dev listens to his inner voice...and jumps up and says that if she will forgive Radhika..and gives Dev time to think but she will also leave the house if Barkha is proved wrong (She is actually proving herself as the guilty party here...because she herself jumped up and started giving ultimatums and scaring the family that she will leave).

Then Barkha has a break down when she realizes that in panic she has given an ultimatum and then decides to use Padma...tells her that she is being ill-treated and that she will leave ..Padma comes to one of the main reasons why she wants Barkha to stay...that is she goes than Rptian goes and then what will they tell people?...when reminded by Barkha that Radhika can become RPtian (by the way is the way is the rptian thing musical chairs game)and Padma continues that Dev chose her for the old mans's wish and Dev cannot forget his duty towards Rajpurohiti (duty towards Rajpurohiti means to let people know the truth...that is the real dharma...and not to think of family prestige. Whereas Padma want Dev to keep the family prestige in mind).

Dev is in his room holding the Ram Charitra Manas and Radhika/kanha goes there...dev tells her that he wants to become a child so that dada can guide him (he is sounding tired and seems as if he tired of all this and go somewhere where he will get peace...and dada has guided him all his life...lack of self confidence coming out) and that dada gave him Ram Charitra Manas and told him that all this questions have answers in this book (Ram Charitra Manas ...that is strange, because usually elders give Gita as the book that has all the answers to questions in one's life...so dada was priming him as the ideal ruler ...since dada is the guide, was Dev interpreting Ram Charitra Manas following the ideals of his dada?). Dev accepts that he is afraid to open it because dada used to tell him that to open any page and whenever some problem comes up, and that page will contain the answer to his problem,...but now he is scared that he might get the answer that he does not want to see...has he realized that he will be pulled towards dada's ideals of duty? When Rdahika/kanha offers answers Dev refuses that he does not want any answers...even if Barkha needs them because he has realized that there are only questions where there are doubts and doubts are there due to lack of belief and he does not have any disbelief regarding what Radhika has said...Radhika prods him regarding the last time when Dev did not have faith on Radhika and he looked pained...and accepts that his belief on her was not that strong but now it is strong...and it is because of her...(well it was not strong because he chose to believe something else to protect the RPhiti...because believing Barkah did that...protecting the family legacy as Padma said before)...and continues that usually his faith and RP dharma have the same answers...(yes because the faith was not based on his hearts voice that's why...but on what someone else said...again lack of self confidence)....but now his belief and RPdharma are against each other....(ahh because truth is coming up in his heart and that's where his belief is located now).....and that he does not want to loose her again (good that he acknowledges his fear but then where is the acknowledgement that it was wrong to test her? hopefully it will be there)...continues that Ram also sent Sita away listening to his subjects (Ram was the perfect idealist ruler... but dada was not chunnu munnu...he was in love with his ideals...Ram never married again, he could but he did not, whereas you happily played with marriage so that your ideals stays or your image is maintained), but till now that decision is taken as a wrong one...and and then says that he does not need to open Ram Charitra Manas anymore...because he has got the answer and he goes to keep the Ram Charitra Manas ...and Radhika/kanah says that he has got his self-confidence...

Rohan also got to know Barkha's truth...Radhika/kanah pointed out that Barkha is accusing her so that she does not have to forgive Radhika and hence Radhika and Dev cannot get close to each other...if Radhika is Barkha's best friend and have used lies to get them married but she is the bride known to society (because Radhika went in place of Barkha), and is ready to live as an unmarried wife of Dev ( a friend who has really sacrificed will not say that...Radhika never says that she does not have any recognition in society)and then Padma pointing out that she has never tried to become Dev's wife ...but then she is now refusing to forgive Radhika so that their married life cannot start...all these do not make sense and something is wrong somewhere...an Rohan says to himself that although Radhika is right and you are wrong but you carry on not forgiving Radhika then only can I make Radhika my own..(Rohan by the way what are you going to do about the SR?)...it is interesting that Rohan did not need proofs he trusts Radhika..he does listen to his inner mind but acting on it depends on what he wants at that time.

Padma showed her hypocrisy today...her need for Barkha is based on protecting the family honour...and she does have blind faith on dada's ideals...he woud have been the perfect RPtian according to dada...

Acting...Avinash stole the show...also good were Rubina, Sushmita and Saurav.

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Sorry double post.😳
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Hey Misti!!!
As usual thank your for a great analysis!! I really don't know how you can do this so well everyday? whoosh!!! Today, I won't go into all we saw. But I just want to emphasise your point. Rohan had and continues to have complete trust in Radhika's nature. Whereas we have seen Dev babu attack Rahika didi's morals and character..like earlier when Rohan was supposed to marry her and Devbabu insulted her wrongfully.😳
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Misti, excellent analysis.

First of all, I have to say that I liked the show mainly for Avinash followed by Rubina. He was excellent and Rubina was very good especially in the last scene between the both. After a long time, they showed a meaningful scene between them which was not brief.

I am not sure what writers want to convey about growth in Dev. It is likely that writers are trying to show that Dev has evolved to the extent where he is going to follow the path of truth from now onwards. However, to me the way scenes are written and lines given to Dev shows that he has a long way to go before he can take the right path.

1. When Barkha mentioned that she has given proofs and Radhika should give now, Dev asked her to do so. Just a day ago he was saying that he was done taking her tests. So everytime someone accuses Radhika, would she have to show proofs to prove her innocence. That doesn't show evolution to me. What if Radhika starts accusing Padma or Dai of some crime, would Dev ask them to prove themselves innocent knowing that they are innocent (not that I want to use "innocent word for Dai or Padma). So he is still failing as Radhika's husband as well as RP.

2. He arrogantly states that he always knows the truth and follows it. I burst out laughing at that line. First of all, anybody and especially the one who is in judgment position needs to have doubts that should let them not take anything at facevalue. As R/K told Dev, proofs can be doctored and witnesses can lie. So even though he is having doubts about Radhika ever being an attempted murderer or the one who tried to disclose their marriage, he still thinks he did the right thing. That's why there is no apology to Radhika for any of his actions so far.

3. Dev backed down only after R/K gave him an ultimatum that Radhika won't provide any proofs this time and it is up to him to decide whom to believe. Dev is scared of losing this Radhika. The real Radhika used to run after him and was always trying to prove herself to him for which he has not apologized to this day. But R/K doesn't run after him and has shown him the mirror many times. So he is scared of losing Radhika for good. He thinks that if he distrusted Radhika or tried to take her test again, Radhika would leave him for good. So his trust in Radhika seems to be coming more from the fear than the actual realization.

4. In front of Padma and other family members, his defense of Radhika is that he knows that Radhika has changed. So that implies that she did all those crimes before but is not doing anymore. In the privacy of room with either Rohan or R/K, he states that he messed up when his trust was weakened and that Radhika couldn't have done that. So why this duplicity? He is privately acknowledging that he was more than likely wrong and Radhika suffered because of him, but is not acknowledging this openly. Is he scared of angering Barkha who can harm RP legacy? So again, his statement that he trusts Radhika seems to come more from the fear that Radhika's absence and stern attitude of R/K has generated in him.

5. The reference to the Ramayan is of course losing of Sita by Ram for taking her second test. So his reference again and again to Ram is fear talking. The laughable part was that he said that he won't commit the mistake that Ram made. But Ram did it openly. Everyone was aware that he left Sita for his people but knew that he was doing injustice to her. Also he declared publicly that he won't marry again and in all the ceremonies, Sita's idol would be used as a substitute. So everything was in open and the society knew the truth. Here Dev is hiding the truth.

6. He tells R/K that he is worried that everytime his life settles, some storm comes. So in his mind the settled life implies that Radhika is his wife at home and Barkha is RPtain and both of them have no issues with each other. So there is still no realization that he made mistakes. On top of that, he is still yearning for Dada's guidance.

So in conclusion, I did not feel that Dev has come out of Dada's shadow at this point. R/K was shown happy about Dev having faith in his love and Radhika. But to me, it seemed as if it is just fear and not actual realization. Otherwise, he wouldn't be asking Radhika any questions publicly or would only backdown when R/K gave him a stern statement.


However, I did like both Dev and Radhika's scenes. I also enjoyed Rohan who actually does trust Radhika more than Dev. He of course behaved with his usual selfishness and that is consistent. He and Padma (disregarding the lines of Kanha calling her good soul) are most consistent characters. Padma was her usual hypocrite self who wants to protect RP title the same way Dada did even if it means living a lie for the rest of one's life. She herself lived a life based on lies and now wants Dev to do the same for ever. So she doesn't care if Radhika's rights are taken away forever and she suffers all her life because it protects her cushy life. So her statement to Dada that he shouldn't have told the truth in Muth is consistent with how she is behaving. More than being Hari's mistress, her objections was that Dada made it public and made Chaya's son the heir as he should have been.

Not happy with how they showed Virat as a bragging fool yesterday. Misti, you are right. It is probably to prove to the family that Dev wasn't being blind in love of Radhika. So when Dev doesn't stop Barkha on monday, R/K would do that and Virat would more than likely be used to prove that Barkha's accident was caused by him. But again why change a character. Couldn't they have shown that somebody saw him near the valley or something in his car? Combined with a damaged car and his grudge towards Barkha, he would be fingered.

Acting wise: Avinash, Rubina, Saurav and Sushmita and Pragati for her one line and mostly expressions.


Edited by why6 - 13 years ago
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Thanx Misti for the detailed analysis, really liked the inside menaing sod each and very line of Dev..he is still in position to not except his past mistakes and realize that first time too he did mistke by not trusting Rads..coming to his own convenient position that first time it was his lack of belief in rads and proofs suggested that (i still wonder what proofs he was talking..fill me in if i ma missing anything but the only proof was THE RPtain accusing Rads right?) and now his strong belief in her wont him accuse her again is out of fear.. he isnt fully convineced taht rads cud never have done this but not acknowledging that Looks like will have to wait for that or Cvs are skipping that part😕
Anyways a better progression..one thing that lacked was R/K prodding Dev more on first time accusations and his disbelief on her..poking him more abt that matter can only make his brain work that nothing changed from first time to this time..its only his suitablity to the situations...Want him to look back once more and realize that time even no proofs were thr and this time too..its BH claiming one thing and Rads saying another..upto him what to belive both times..anyways Angies 6 points just on Dev and his actions/inactions in his own world are writtin very skillfully and thanx for that..your views make it more clear as to wht Dev stand now...
Don wanna say abt lunatic BH (she is thick enough not to see the paralles of what happened to her and what she did o asli rads) and Padma..Like Rohan trcak is projected well earlier i guess his story was kind of stopped inn middle (like MS story..waht happeend to high head chenu now😕)
Lastly for future either Dev will delve more in past and gets to knwo the truth abt rads ...feel devasted inaddition gets to know R/K is not his rads and feel utmost guilty or i just wish BH go to etreme insane that she herself reveal abt her crimes in front of whle PB...Thanx Misti and Angie for your great writups..loved them
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Originally posted by: Kittya_Cullen

Hey Misti!!!

As usual thank your for a great analysis!! I really don't know how you can do this so well everyday? Thanks😉whoosh!!! Today, I won't go into all we saw. But I just want to emphasise your point. Rohan had and continues to have complete trust in Radhika's nature. Whereas we have seen Dev babu attack Rahika didi's morals and character..like earlier when Rohan was supposed to marry her and Devbabu insulted her wrongfully.😳 Dev has many issues but Rohan does not have those issues...Rohan does not have to prove himself for this selfish lunatic family...but Dev has to...he let Radhika go bcause to him that was for the family...he was also in his own way thinking of Radhika ...that he as a glorified servant won't be able to give her anything but Rohan will as the future RP nad the darling youngest son of the family...but as usual he failed to see it from Radhika's point of view and what she wants...he is arrogant and hence he got angry that Rdahika is not doing as he wants her to do...

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I loved today's episode. Radhika/Kanha continues to throw it in Dev's face the fact he didn't trust his wife before. I'm glad Radhika/Kanha made it clear that she already said her side of the story, why should she again?
While I'm happy to see Dev slowly losing patience with Barkha, it was complete and utter nonsense today that he listened to her about how he shouldn't be biased. He really needs to keep his duty as RP and his marriage to Radhika seperate.
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Originally posted by: chipak

Thanx Misti for the detailed analysis, really liked the inside menaing sod each and very line of Dev..he is still in position to not except his past mistakes and realize that first time too he did mistke by not trusting Rads..Well he did today show that he had faith in Radhika then too but then that faith got shaken,...but since he is not acknowledging his mistake maybe he does think that he was right...that he had to do that for the Rajpurohiti..... coming to his own convenient position that first time it was his lack of belief in rads and proofs suggested that (i still wonder what proofs he was talking..fill me in if i ma missing anything but the only proof was THE RPtain accusing Rads right?) the proofs were all imaginery ones or hearsay...Barkha told him that someone ijured her.when she has self harmed..Radhika asked her questions that made Radhika realise that Barkha was fibbing but Dev chose to believe Barkha...the there was that poison attempt wher he chose to believe that Radhika did itand lastly Barkha's allegations tha Rdahika tried to push her down the stairs...in that stair s scene the way Dev ran away to the muth aftr raising his hands to slap Radhika showed his guilt...he knew it then that he was wrong but again did not acknowledge it and prefered to avoid thewhole thing...maybe he was scared oflooking into Radhika's eyes. now his strong belief in her wont him accuse her again is out of fear.and I think there is somewher guilt also attached..his expressions told me that...although he is not accepting it openly...now he is afraid that Rads will leave him and he is not taking her granted...earlier he did take her for granted.Somewhere deep in him he does know that Rads is innocent, he always knew that but last time he chose to believe Balrha opely becuase of the Rajpurohit legacy..Now also he know deep down he knows that Radhika is right...to me his telling Radhika that he knows that she is speaking the truth is more out of fear/guilt than actual self realisation...because if it is that latter then he will acknowledge his mistake openly and take steps to put things right..when that happens then only canI say that self realistio has happened.but that might take time and that is ok...he has to unlearn lots of things that he has picked up from childhood... he isnt fully convineced taht rads cud never have done this but not acknowledging that Looks like will have to wait for that or Cvs are skipping that part😕 I think he is convinced ...his asking for proofs was not because he was not convinced, it was more to justify that he is an able ruler and is just because he is treating Rdahika and Barkha at the same level...Anyways a better progression.yes.one thing that lacked was R/K prodding Dev more on first time acusations and his disbelief on her..poking him more abt that matter can only make his brain work that nothing changed from first time to this time..its only his suitablity to the situations...Want him to look back once more and realize that time even no proofs were thr and this time too..its BH claiming one thing and Rads saying another..upto him what to belive both times..the prodding was more than day before yesterdays epsiode which is good...Now I don't know whether R/K will prod more or not...if Kanha's main reason forcoming was to make Dev realise the worth of Radhika in his life and what he will loose if that Radhika is not there..then that has been done...that what he will loose if he continues questioning Radhika, then that has been done .but the realisation that he was wrong because he did not follow the truth to me has not happenened because that will include acknowledging his mistake openly and taking steps to setthings right...anyways Angies 6 points just on Dev and his actions/inactions in his own world are writtin very skillfully and thanx for that..your views make it more clear as to wht Dev stand now...

Don wanna say abt lunatic BH (she is thick enough not to see the paralles of what happened to her and what she did o asli rads) and Padma..Like Rohan trcak is projected well earlier i guess his story was kind of stopped inn middle (like MS story..waht happeend to high head chenu now😕)...
Lastly for future either Dev will delve more in past and gets to knwo the truth abt rads ...feel devasted inaddition gets to know R/K is not his rads and feel utmost guilty or i just wish BH go to etreme insane that she herself reveal abt her crimes in front of whle PB...Thanx Misti and Angie for your great writups..loved them you are welcome Seema...off the two options that you have written I will prefer the former.

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Misti Angie i always love to read your analysis of the situations and track ..Angie has analyzed Dev,s thoughts and his actions very well ...Still Dev is afraid to talk about past allegations and to think about them ...Thats why i wanted this time a Dev is coming out of his protected shell slowly , should be given monologues to reveal his line of thoughts in the past actions that will more connect him to the viewers , its emotions which brings viewers closer \to character ...I was confused about , why that Ramayana was connected to the scene , then flashed in my mind college school days results , when we use to put our finger on some doha and there used to be meaning for that .Have seen many people going for that...Here Dev also wanted to find the answers for his question , but he believed in himself and dropped the idea...
He just have the good old memories of his Daa ji unconditional love as a child ...he was there to guide him , thats why he unable to cut strings from his past ...Wish makers should have been logical from the starting so that loose ends in the characterization would not have been there ...Now are trying to bring stability in the story and are succeeding...Dev is not the perfect person this time , has his follies and feet of clay ...
I liked the best when R/K refused to give any proof and very sternly and reminded Dev again his past ..Again liked the views of others also for different and logical perspective of looking at the same thing ...For me Dev,s realization will come when he will face the truth and Radhika will not be there ...and then his search for her ..
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Thanks Misti correcting me that was not unconditional love from Dada Ji, he also used him and was selfish ...If i think now , i do not think he ever loved him , thats why Dev is loner ...It was only Radhika who loved him unconditional , always giver ...When yesterday he wished to be child again , he seemed like a child , who was in shell ..Now all are looking at him , not giving a damn about his happiness ...He is the guarantee of their secure life ...

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