Mistis thoughts 17th nov, 2011

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misti73

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Posted: 13 years ago

Well there were few dialogues that hinted to today's happenings...

1) Radhika/kanha's challenge to Dev that will he be able to give the correct justice

2) Yesterdays Radhika's dialogue to Barkha that since Barkha is chanting so many times that Balram is innocent then he will be proven innocent.

3) Barkha's dialogues to virat and badi bahu that people have forgotten about poison and in times of calamity people first react to save their own skin...the investigation happens later

4) Balrams faith in Radhika/kanha

5) Radhika saying that a person is innocent until proven guilty.

Dev has started leaning towards Radhika/Kanha...when Barkha tells him lets go to the muth...Dev nods and replies...Radhika come lets go to the muth...I mean Barkha told him but his response was to Radhika/kanha...😆😆. Anyway in the muth Radhika after the talk with Vaid realizes that Barkhu rani gave the wrong bottle and she asks the RP about it...Dev replies that Barkha took it from him...that's actually Dev's failure as a judge...he the RP is the judge RPtian is not the judge...and a judge never hands over any piece of information relating to the case to anyone other than the person from whom he or she is seeking expert opinion. ...a person is always innocent until proven guilty and no judge goes against that...so Dev did fail here and this is actual a repetition of what they showed last week...Balram handling the money to Dev and since Dev was busy he left it at office and later brought it out...this time Dev was again given the proof but he handed it over to Barkha...it is a cirlce but since it was logical it was ok for me...last week Barkha realized that Dev trusts Balram and believes that he cannot go wrong and was miffed at Barkha for questioning Balram...so this time Barkha from the start showed that she believed in Balram and hence the circle was completed by Dev giving the proof to Barkha without thinking...I don't know whether it will be stretched further in later episodes for Dev to understand that one should not blindly follow proofs (since they only show him nodding and never show his thoughts😡)...Anyway Radhika/kanha searches for proofs and comes across it...and Dev in the meantime being pressurized by the chanting public...and who does he think off before passing judgement..oh that cute, charming, benevolent, old man...his darling dada...that old chap...he does not think of God to give him the strength to pass on the right judgment but when he needs strength he thinks of dada...Dev has a long way to go ...he is still under his dada's influence and creatives please dada is not puroshottam😡 ...that means an idealist...dada was not an idealist, dada was an egoist who was in love with his ideals ...If he is thinking of dada before passing any judgment then he will also be influenced by dada's ideals while passing judgment...

Anyway Radhika/kanha returns and then the fun begins...First Barkha tries to stop by telling Dev that time is being wasted...and Dev replies that we all want Balram to be proven innocent ...and you want it too...nice tit for tat for Barkha being worried about Balram😆...Radhika/kanha asks all the right questions that she found this half burned fodder and was given to the cow...the vaid checks and says that the fodder does contain harmful stuff that can even killed the cows (actually when he was doing the test I kept on thinking why isn't he wearing gloves...😉😆😆🤣...sorry that is my work taking over here😳😳)...and then acknowledges that the fodder came from the muth's store where Balram cannot get access to...the keys are only with him and RPtian...I liked the fact that Radhika/kanah cleverly did not accuse Barkha openly but hinted indirectly that she is responsible...and then doubts about bottle being changed discussed...and finally the fodder being burned which Barkha jumps up and says yes that's me please...and her excuse that she did not want it to be mixed with the fodder...which Radhika/kanha again points out that such an important proof should be kept aside...and Dev on the basis of all these arguments and proofs combined with his gut instict says that Balram is innocent and that this was done to spoil the muths name...but who proved that Balram is innocent?😉...Radhika or Barkha? Yes Radhika brought the right proof and asked the right questions...but that was not the only one proof...the bottle got changed was another proof...the keys of the store with only two people and Balram cannot get access there another proof...the fodder was burnt under Barkha's orders...well Barkha did an excellent job in proving to others that some mischief has happened that made Dev realize that this was done to harm the muth's image😆...although inside he knew this but he was not ready to accept it and Barkha helped in reaching this realization and accepting it in front of others😃😛...Barkhas part was what Radhika told her yesterday that since she is keeping on chanting that Balram is innocent he will be found innocent...and Barkha herself did it👏...Now comes to the challenge thrown at Dev by Radhika/kanha...that will he be able to pass the right judgement...well he might have faltered by thinking about dada when he was feeling pressurized..but Radhika/kanha pulled him back...Balram was being charged of being responsible due to negligence...negligent since there was no proof of poisoning... Dev had to choose between Balram on one side (that he is not negligent) and him not wanting to believe that someone is out to harm the muth (that there is no poisoning)...he was sitting there patiently listening to Radhika/kanha's arguments even if the arguments were questioning Barkhas behavior (he has not made the connection but earlier he would not have even sat and listened because this idol of sacrifice has done so much, so how can Radhika even take her name and indirectly say anything about her behavior)...and he said the Barlam is not guilty of this and instead there has been poisoning attempt...but is this full justice?...No...justice to Balram not only includes clearing his name but also finding the real culprits who stitched him up... it was a step in the right direction but he has a long way to go... next step should be Balram being used...then why Balram being used...then the actual victim...that will lead to the main culprit (or the actual culprit leading to the actual victim) and that should be the main judgement call of Dev Rajpurohit in this case...but will all these be shown? And will Dev's thought process be shown in each step? Will Dev be shown to realize that he did a mistake is passing the proof into some other hands...does not matter if he trusts that person or not.

Oh by the way what was that Barkha told badi bahu and Virat...that when calamity comes people run to protect their skin and after the calamity passes then investigation happens...Now what did happen...investigation has started and now I am wondering what virat and badi bahu will do to protect their skin and what Barkha will do protect her skin...😍.and who will push whom into a hole...😍...I hope the creatives make it interesting and entertaining...

So we did have Radhika and Barkha facing off with Dev the referee blowing whistle...😉😃😃..

On the whole much better episode... what I did not like was Radhika/kanha panicking...why? he is Kanha and he knows about do your duty and do not concentrate on the results...so why was he concentrating on the result? This human kanha characterization is one of the worst examples of characterization from the creatives...its khichri...they are one day saying that he as human has forgotten what he learned before...then he should have also forgotten that he is not Kanha...then he should have also forgotten that he used to break the matkas of the gopis...then he should also have forgotten the name of the special herb that Krishna used...it is as if Kanha suffers from selective amnesia...or situational amnesia...then if he remembers that he is kanha then he should also remember the link between duty and result...remember being detached...but then they are showing since he is human he is attached...Ram was attached to human emotions because he did not know that he was the incarnation of Vishnu...Krishna always knew and hence the detachment (as far as I can remember)...how can one have the chracter traits of Ram and Kanah in the same person...this is too bizzare for me to handle. The creatives did a good job with the divine Radhika/kanha ...wonder why did they mess up with the human form? Rubina did a very good job in the acting department .

Edited by misti73 - 13 years ago

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neerjashingla

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Posted: 13 years ago

Today you must have enjoyed analyzing the episode , i loved reading your detailed comments as always ...I liked the episode specially the R/K part ...Such a serious scene was going on ,but could not stop laughing when saw those two hefty Butchers with whips in their hands , ready to lash a child ...It was scene from some medieval time movie ...Barkha sitting on the throne as queen...Do not think Barkha fest is going to be exposed , it will be Viraat who will be asked to take the blame or Almighty Barkha will cook some story ...Hope Dev start having doubts about Barkha as R/K indirectly pointed at her if only Creatives will allow ...On the whole it was interesting

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Sonali

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Posted: 13 years ago

great episode to analyze and to watch, loved R/K 's poise and arguments were superb! Hopefully Barkha's deeds come out to the open, like today she admitted in front of all those at mutt that she had the feed burnt, maybe she will admit what she did to Radhika, question remains how will this truth come out and what reaction will Dev have?

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Rohini

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Posted: 13 years ago

I was also totally confused by Kanha in human form. The Lord takes human form in order to re-establish dharma and this Kanha was shown to be panicking in the face of adharma. He appeared to have no faith in himself without his divine powers. If the Lord is shown this way what hope is left for us mere mortals. Who are we to turn to ????? This really left me flabergasted.

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Shankar

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Posted: 13 years ago

It's selective ammnesia misti!

Anyway, enjoyed the epi as a whole. I loved the fact that today, faith in barkha has begun deteriorating at a faster rate. Now padma will have to think 2x before justifying her. 😉

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misti73

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: adventure_gurl
great episode to analyze and to watch, loved R/K 's poise and arguments were superb! Hopefully Barkha's deeds come out to the open, like today she admitted in front of all those at mutt that she had the feed burnt, maybe she will admit what she did to Radhika, question remains how will this truth come out and what reaction will Dev have?

Yes today she did admit to everyone that the cowfeed was destroyd on her orders...indrecty it got established that the bottle got changed between the time it was in Dev's hands and the vaids hand...also that there are only two sets of keys...also got established that the innocent got saved due to Radhika's action. Lets see how will they bring Barkha's turth out and Dev should be devastated...

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Angie

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Posted: 13 years ago

Misti,

It was slightly better episode for me due to the last part. For me too, it was better than last episode but was not a good episode. Kanha panicking like anything was ridiculous in the first three parts and I fast forwarded it. Another was that stupid melodrama of two guys in black with bare chest and ready to lash while only 10 minutes were left. Then Kanha despairing and so.

Your predictions mentioned in yesterday's thread did come true in the last part. Radhika/Kanha challenged Barkha and did give enough hints to Dev that Barkha is involved. Will he take the hints? Not the way he was shown. He is a judge but is committing mistakes after mistakes. As you mentioned, he himself gave a proof to a third party (Barkha) who is not involved. He did not make an order that since Radhika is investigating, she should be given all the freedom to research and should have access to Muth (scene of crime). Then he was not questioning but was just listening mutely. If Radhika was a defense lawyer, the judge also gets involved and asks questions. That way, they could have shown that Dev uses questioning/answering sessions. So far nothing of Dev's thoughts are being shown. Lets see if all this looking for culprit is swept under the rug or Dev actively is shown pursuing this case and questioning Barkha. Afterall, if it was not for Radhika, he would have punished an innocent child for some thing that is going on in his muth.

I did like your analysis of Barkha being the one blurting out things about burning chara and such. So nice analysis here. Lets see if they give us some intelligent Dev at some point from now on.

Dev's devastation is what I am looking for. He did not look at any proofs but used blind faith in Barkha and judged Radhika. Wonder if they would ever show that as Dev is not a important character for them.

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sigrid

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Posted: 13 years ago

Misti as usual very good analysis...I think time has come to show real Radhika...it is going for over kill now...have enjoyed the Kanha and Balaram...bu it needs to go on next track now... ..also got very upset seeing Barkha sitting with DEv😡

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misti73

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: shadow56
I was also totally confused by Kanha in human form. The Lord takes human form in order to re-establish dharma and this Kanha was shown to be panicking in the face of adharma. He appeared to have no faith in himself without his divine powers. If the Lord is shown this way what hope is left for us mere mortals. Who are we to turn to ????? This really left me flabergasted.

Shadow you are not the only one I was also flabergasted as to what on earth is going on...and it started with the promo that God has to prove something. Never heard of such thing in my life...

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misti73

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: -Shankar-
It's selective ammnesia misti! Yeh...thats what it seems like...
Anyway, enjoyed the epi as a whole. I loved the fact that today, faith in barkha has begun deteriorating at a faster rate. Now padma will have to think 2x before justifying her. 😉 I am not that sure about mother Padmu ...she might relax for some days but if she feels that her security is being damaged by people praising Radhika she will again start...today she was smiling but she sees Barkha as an extension of herself...and Radhika is Chaya to her. If she makes the link that Radhika being better than Barkha means Chayya is better than her...then her inherent insecurity might again create problems.

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