Kartavya and dharma ---

Kartavya and dharma --

Are they two sides of the same coin or are they different?

Kartavya is one's duty towards those who depend on you and Dharma is to uphold it' Individuals have different dharmas at different times in their lives.

These words are used in this story many times and in reference to different members...

This is my perspective on this complex issue...

Part 1: Dadaji

Dadaji's kartavya was to do right by Hari, guide him in the right direction, to do right by Chayya and Padma, to do right by Dev and his mother, to do right by Radhika, and to do right by the values of RPship'..He failed in all this. He was not able to uphold any of the values'.as a father, father-in-law, grandfather etc'.He did adharma '.

Neither were his actions justified by any reason, nor was he forced or compelled to do so under some difficult circumstances... So why did he do what he did? And what is his punishment? Was his illness of 12 years an adequate justice?... But what is his punishment for things he did (trying to separate Dev and Radhika) after he got better...I would really like to see that Dev realizes Dadaji's true colors and no longer holds him on a pedestal'.

Part II: Dev

For Dev, Kartavya has been the most important element of life and at times at cost of his own happiness'..But which kartavya? He felt obligated towards Dadaji and PF members because he considered himself an orphan and was thankful for getting a place in that household. For this he sacrificed his own happiness, and in the process failed in his kartavya towards his wife. And then for the sake of RPti, he again chose to "accept" Barkha in the role of Rptain?...He did his kartavya but at what cost?...Which kartavya of his is more important; being an RP or being a husband?...So to me, he chose one or valued one over the other and as a result was unjust towards both'.He needs to realize for himself (through Kanha's words) about his mistakes, and "pay for his action"'so what will be his "karma phal"

Part III: Padma

Padma is a complex character. She followed the right path as a wife and as a bahu. But, when she realized the injustices done towards her, her marriage, her son's position in the PF, it changed her. It was not her karma that led to these injustices and so she was a victim of circumstances. However now, blinded by her own situation, and is wrongly supporting Barkha's position in the PF'.But as a righteous person, she needs to rise above her own feelings and needs to see the path of dharma. Will she be able to do that?

Part IV: Barkha

Barkha was a friend who helped RaDev to escape from death. But did she do this for altruistic reasons or with a selfish motive? May be her conscience was clear in the beginning, but later, may be her jealousy or because of the influence of the mystery person, she has committed one sin after the other'.from breaking the bonds of friendship, to coming between husband and wife, to wrongly use her power'etc., she has fallen and I want to see her fallen in the eyes of everyone 'waiting to see how Barkha falls into the abyss and is shunned by everyone who knows her'.

Part V: ' The Nectar of devotion

Radhika, a pure soul but not perfect. She has led a life of devotion, towards her Kanha, not letting that waiver even under the most difficult circumstances'.She loved her father, her brother, always fulfilled her responsibilities towards her mother and sister, in spite of the fact that she got little in return. She was steadfast in her belief of her childhood marriage and followed the path of patnidharma. She did waiver once when it came to trying to save Dev, but still, it was related to her patni dharma.But she chose one wrong path, by accepting to share her sindoor with Barkha for the sake of RPti and she paid for her mistake. Through all this her faith remained intact and now it is time for her to enjoy the nectar of her devotion'.

Originally posted by: Myra.nelly

Good post dear, thanks...

All i can add to this is that responsibility and the right way(dharma) are perceived sm times as one and smtimes as two diferent things...people kn say that who knows the rite way or dharm is responsible too and kn succeed in their duties...but who is flawless in this world and make it all right...Lord is flawless,and he is the one who guides people to kartyaa and dharm,sm may fallow the path,some walk just a part of it and some dont fallow it...cb characters fit in each and every category...

God shows the path but it is for us to follow it...and as you said some may follow the path, some walk just a part of it and some don't follow it at all...and there in lies their own karma phal...the choices one makes, decides the consequences...and CB characters do fit in all these different categories...

you have aptly analysed the dharam and kartavaya of each one,,,Both go hand in hand...

Originally posted by: Neerjaa

you have aptly analysed the dharam and kartavaya of each one,,,Both go hand in hand...

Nice to see you back...

Dharma -Kartavaya...was very confusing to me, so had to write down my thoughts...
Yes, both are interdependent -----in a sense have to follow both---to stay on the right path

Radhika very well put. Kartavya and Dharma go hand in hand you can not do one and leave the other out you need to do justice to both and as far as:-

Originally posted by: zam123

Radhika very well put. Kartavya and Dharma go hand in hand you can not do one and leave the other out you need to do justice to both and as far as:-

Part 1 - Dada, he did not do justice to either his family or to the RPship, hence his punishment that family are all screwed up and he did not get to see his son's or grandson's Raj Tilak.

Part 2 - Dev, I feel that in a weak moment he gave in to Radhika by naming Barkha as his wife in Raj Tilak. After that he allowed Radhika to decide what the next move should be and Radhika asked both Dev and Barkha to remain as husband + wife in the public until a solution could be found. Dev was still not happy but again gave in to Radhika because he did not want to lose her.

So in my eyes Dev followed a path showed by Radhika and Dada which was to protect RPship at any cost and to trust Barkha totally. Later when Radhika tried to tell him not to trust Barkha it was difficult for him to understand why she was behaving that way, just as it was difficult for him to understand at first when she was refusing to marry him.

Having said that, I do feel that what ever pressure that was put on him either by Radhika, Dada or the family he should have stood by his decision to name Radhika as his wife and should not have put sindoor on Barkha's maang, hence he should be punished.

Part 3 - Padma, Yes she is a complex person and needs to over come her insecurities, hoping when she learns what Barkha did to her darling son she will realize her mistakes and over come them and follow the correct Dharma.

Part 4 - Barkha, Don't know whether she had any good intentions from the beginning or she became greedy midway but she should be made to understand that she is not GOD and should not play with peoples lives. Yes, I too ''want to see her fallen in the eyes of everyone 'waiting to see how Barkha falls into the abyss and is shunned by everyone who knows her'.

Part 5 - Nectar of devotion

Radhika, Totally agree here with you, except before she gets to enjoy her Nectar of devotion, Dev needs to be punished and to realise his part in the torture of Radhika and being killed by Barkha first before they get together.

Thanks for your analysis. I especially liked your perspective on Dev's kartavya...He did get swayed by Radhika's decision. He made the choice under pressure to save the RPti, but without thinking about the consequences of his actions. Although he tried to fulfill his kartavya towards his family and to save the RPti, the path he took was not right and hence has to now face the consequences of his actions...

Will he be remorseful of his actions? Will he find his actions? Will he ask for forgiveness from Radhika, from society for his actions?...all these questions and will have to wait and see what happens as the story unfolds...

Radhika5 great post...Just my POV that Kartavya and Dharma goes hand in hand...It is your Dharma to fullfil your Kartavya. None should be separated...Dev has to realize that he cannot separate his husbandly duties and Rpt duties. Their should be a balance...but as he had promised that his wife should come first above all his duties. No one is perfect including us all. We all have made mistakes...but these same mistakes have taught us lesson in life and made us more wiser. Dev has to learn through his own actions that he has made a mistake in not trusting Radhika...that what Radhika/Kanha is trying to achieve. Dev is realizing his mistakes. Real Radhika already has realized what mistake she has made by trusting Barkha.

Originally posted by: Tazzi

Radhika5 great post...Just my POV that Kartavya and Dharma goes hand in hand...It is your Dharma to fullfil your Kartavya. None should be separated...Dev has to realize that he cannot separate his husbandly duties and Rpt duties. Their should be a balance...but as he had promised that his wife should come first above all his duties. No one is perfect including us all. We all have made mistakes...but these same mistakes have taught us lesson in life and made us more wiser. Dev has to learn through his own actions that he has made a mistake in not trusting Radhika...that what Radhika/Kanha is trying to achieve. Dev is realizing his mistakes. Real Radhika already has realized what mistake she has made by trusting Barkha.

Just my opinion, Padma is supporting Barkha because she feels Barkha is going through what she had been through with Hari. RadhikaKanha tried to tell her to see from Maan Ki Aankhen Radhika's through character. Once Padma realizes that Barkha is trying to harm her son, then her maan ki Aankhen will rise.

Even though Dadaji suffered 12 years, but he did not realize his mistake. He continued to feel that he is right when it came to Rpship. So in my opinion, his death was not a form of extreme punishment.

Virat needed to be scolded by her mom when he was a kid for his countless misbehavior with Dev. Now he is getting the scolding he deserves. But still they have not realized their mistakes.

Barkha is getting towards her slow death...the illusions are greater punishments. Her illusion of Dev breaking her fast.

Rohan is going to get due punishment also as per Kanha...

All in All very interesting story and plot. Rubina is just marvelous as Radhika/Kanha. Avinash and his facial expressions are just too good. Could feel his pain and his guilt. Both of them are just a good actors that we can feel the distance Dev and Radhika/Kanha have. Appeareance of very cordial relationship of a teacher and student vs. wife/husband/best friends. Only excellent actors can switch chemistry of a different kind...

I am so glad that everyone is coming up with different parts to this kartavaya-dharma chakravuyha

Radhika made the mistake of trusting Barkha and paid a price...

For Dev his vishwas faltered and he went down the wrong path----He does need to realize his mistake and make amends for the same...

For Padma,--- doing the right thing is above the personal experiences. Her judgement was clouded because of her life and sees a parallel with Barkha's life...But it does not excuse her actions. She should have known and stood up for the fact that what Dev was doing was wrong and as a mother should have guided him down the right path. With Rohan too...although she admonished him for his situation with Radhika, she did play a role in his upbringing that made Rohan who he is today...

Barkha, Rohan, BB, Virat all have chosen wrong paths completely or at least partially...let's see what Kanha has in store for them...

Good anaysis Radhika of Kartavya and Dharma and how all did Adharma knowingly and unknowingly and lets see how all pay for their adharma and sins their punishment will be according their degree and intensity of their sins. Till now Radhika is the only one who repaid for her adharma.