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Posted: 12 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Arshidiehardfan

I still have not found a replacement to my favourite show till date😔 It would have been better if u hadn't mentioned it... But that is ur opinion & I respect it.
But CC is a good show... I started to watch it for Sanaya & I am liking it... Good to see sanaya in good costumes & as a confident modern girl... Sanuj pair is also good. I dont know why some people have problem with the show... Sanaya is very careful in choosing her projects... She always prefered to sign shows that are different from each other... She knows what she is doing. We fans cannot ask her to choose the projects as per their wish... We cannot force our aspirations upon her... By the way it is a nice post on that aspect... If they dont like the show, they should watch the show that they like rather asking for CC to go off-air...


I edited the part related to her previous show. You're right - it was unnecessary.

You know when children grow up, they protest why their parents should take their decisions. And this is besides the fact that parents have so many rights on their children. And here we are preaching an independent, mature, intelligent celebrity what she should and should not have taken as a project. That's what I don't approve.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: charlotte74

This is a very interesting post. Just a few thoughts on some points.

If you have zero interest in the show, why make the effort to point out how flawed it is.

I am wondering how you know that people who have criticized the show have zero interest in the show? If a silent reader of the forum wants to critique, you want to call it "forced/ negative criticism". Why? Does critiquing become a right of only the regulars?

To me personally Sanaya has been the sole USP of any Indian television show. And I don't think she was given that ideal opportunity to prove herself in any of her shows so why should I pinpoint CC? At least CC has given her a good wardrobe and a much more sensible character.

I don't understand why you have ruled out Sanaya's previous shows just like that.

IN MJHT she portrayed the role of a young college girl who is a extremely quiet and sensitive girl who has to deal with one sided love for the longest time. Playing a character who she doesn't identify with is quiet challenging.

In IPKKND she portrayed the role of young woman who is childish, loud, crazy at times who has to deal with an extremely difficult relationship with a man who is extremely complex. Again she played a character who she didn't identify with.

In Chan Chan she is portraying the role of a girl who Sanaya herself says is a lot like herself. A sensible character does not necessarily mean it is challenging for the actor and it is anyone's guess what an actor would choose -- a sensible role or a challenging role. Also, just a good wardrobe is probably the last in the list of options a good actor is looking for.

IPKKND was not an epic show by my standards at all but it still had so many viewers.

Isn't this a an oxy moron? Can a show garner so many viewers by being less than epic? Have you every had an opportunity to see UK interviews of Sanaya in April 2012 and the recent SPL event in November 2012.
When I first came to IPK forum I used to be so disappointed that my post would be pushed to the fourth or fifth page because there were so many posts being made in one single minute by tons of people. (On CC forum you have made a post early in the morning and it is still on the first page at mid day.)
We had tons of analyses on one single episode of IPK and these post also ranged from being extremely articulate, intellectual, to humourous, sardonic, obnoxious, etc. etc.
You are right. No one was a blind follower. They followed IPK because it was worth following because of performances, the story, the direction and the chemistry.
So can we please leave those who are sincerely following CC to enjoy the show in peace?

From when has a forum become partial only to those who will only say good things about the show? Does CC forum only welcome an "Yes man" who will agree to everything being posted and not criticize where needed. A few criticisms here and there should not bother the sincere followers or disturb their peace. Those who criticize CC are obviously not insane either.

Epic or not epic, a show will be criticized for its flaws. A viewer has every right to express her/him self. Criticism is not always meant to spite. It is also done with an intention to pass a message to the creatives to improvise on their scripts.


I said most of the emerging "critics" not all of them seem to be more interested in destructive rather than constructive criticism. If the person is a silent follower of the show and suddenly decides to offer his/her criticism, s/he needs to introduce himself/herself properly for credibility purposes. In writing a reading response, you cannot just say oh this is such a bad piece for the following reasons (or in some cases no reasons) and just end it. You gotta tell me how the author could improve his work by offering some suggestions. There's a thin line between bashing and criticism.

I am not denying that she got to play different characters in her 3 shows... so where's the contradiction? All I said was that none of her three shows has offered anything spectacular so why should I sit and complain that CC was not the right choice or the right opportunity for her to showcase her talent? And I never said that wardrobe is all that matters. I only said that CC has offered her a decent wardrobe compared to her previous show.

Well no it wouldn't appear as an oxy moron if you knew the difference between popular fiction and classical literature. One of my professors aptly describes popular fiction as airplane readers cuz they are the best form of entertainment when you're on a long flight. Harry Potter and all those Vampire series are good examples of popular fiction but what are their chances of making it to a literary canon? Almost zero. Yes fans will talk about them enthusiastically on different platforms, but genuine literary critics will never find them worthy of their time. If anything at all, CC has just failed to be a popular show at the moment. This doesn't mean that it has no substance or is so much lower in terms of quality compared to Sanaya's previous show. And what do I care about my post being on the first or last page of a Forum as long as I can be in a sane forum...

Finally, we tend to use the terms "critique" and "criticism" interchangeably but they have a subtle difference. Try to google it. I have been in this forum for a long time and I can say with great confidence that the members here have never hesitated to critique the show when the need arises. All I said was that if a member's sole purpose is to criticize, then I am not interested in his/her opinion.
For a starter, here are some points of difference between critique and criticism:

  • Criticism finds fault/Critique looks at structure
  • Criticism condemns what it doesn't understand/Critique asks for clarification
  • Criticism is spoken with a cruel wit and sarcastic tongue/Critique's voice is kind, honest, and objective
  • Criticism is negative/Critique is positive (even about what isn't working)
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Oyster




I said most of the emerging "critics" not all of them seem to be more interested in destructive rather than constructive criticism. If the person is a silent follower of the show and suddenly decides to offer his/her criticism, s/he needs to introduce himself/herself properly for credibility purposes. In writing a reading response, you cannot just say oh this is such a bad piece for the following reasons (or in some cases no reasons) and just end it. You gotta tell me how the author could improve his work by offering some suggestions. There's a thin line between bashing and criticism.

I am not denying that she got to play different characters in her 3 shows... so where's the contradiction? All I said was that none of her three shows has offered anything spectacular so why should I sit and complain that CC was not the right choice or the right opportunity for her to showcase her talent? And I never said that wardrobe is all that matters. I only said that CC has offered her a decent wardrobe compared to her previous show.

Well no it wouldn't appear as an oxy moron if you knew the difference between popular fiction and classical literature. One of my professors aptly describes popular fiction as airplane readers cuz they are the best form of entertainment when you're on a long flight. Harry Potter and all those Vampire series are good examples of popular fiction but what are their chances of making it to a literary canon? Almost zero. Yes fans will talk about them enthusiastically on different platforms, but genuine literary critics will never find them worthy of their time. If anything at all, CC has just failed to be a popular show at the moment. This doesn't mean that it has no substance or is so much lower in terms of quality compared to Sanaya's previous show. And what do I care about my post being on the first or last page of a Forum as long as I can be in a sane forum...

Finally, we tend to use the terms "critique" and "criticism" interchangeably but they have a subtle difference. Try to google it. I have been in this forum for a long time and I can say with great confidence that the members here have never hesitated to critique the show when the need arises. All I said was that if a member's sole purpose is to criticize, then I am not interested in his/her opinion.
For a starter, here are some points of difference between critique and criticism:

  • Criticism finds fault/Critique looks at structure
  • Criticism condemns what it doesn't understand/Critique asks for clarification
  • Criticism is spoken with a cruel wit and sarcastic tongue/Critique's voice is kind, honest, and objective
  • Criticism is negative/Critique is positive (even about what isn't working)

i am agreeing 100% with what u said here
if a show cannot be popular fiction that doesnt mean it is not having any value...infact a lot of things are being discussed in the show...according to the popularity or trp we may give it a rating of "average" ...but when we look at the plot we and about future tracks we can give it atleast a rating of " good" ...anyway its better than other shows which is having no quality and is simply just dragging like hell...i cant believe how ppl watches it ...the same thing for 4 or 5 years
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Posted: 12 years ago
#44
Some fans opinions are not Criticism at all they're acting like parents to an actress who's almost in her 30's. Look at all the hate tweets Anuj is getting for just touching Sanaya and you see what I mean.

Criticism like
She should move on to better and better things
Sanaya should quit CC
She should not have chosen CC
CC should go off air
I wish Sanaya was Zoya in Qubool Hai
Sanaya should have taken Jaan instead
Sanaya is being forced to do all these romantic scenes
Sanaya is being forced to do SBS segments with Anuj
Sanaya looks annoyed and irritated with Anuj

^^What kind of Criticism are these really? I have enough of these eye reading and overprotectness over actors most of these were similar turns of event during her previous show where people are asking her to quit and all other nonsense she came out and made it clear I will stay there till the end the same case with this show at the end of the day it's her Job she's earning a living out of it let her be! and let the people who actually like the show watch it in peace please! Yes I'm liking the show it's not dragging and and over dramatic like other Indian shows out there it's pretty decent IMO. I want it to stay on air for awhile as I'm loving it.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sanu5555



for your kind information i haven't reported any post of bs fans here.infact I was happy that they have got something to do😳.and ya what criticism? nighties?😆.you better dont remind me of rules and dont run away from the exact point


What has bs fans got to do with it???? You are all over the place first prev show and now bs - what have they got to do with ch ch forum. And like you don't report same way i don't like to discuss nigties, chaddis and read eyes and lips as being suggested on this thread so doesn't apply to me. This is the funniest place where fanatics calling others fanatics . Anyways i come here for entertainment just like je show and not to entertain others so ta ta ... but see you again here ...he he he.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: bramcote46

Usual post on page 1 goes with the trend pf cc forum.


What has bs fans got to do with it???? You are all over the place first prev show and now bs - what have they got to do with ch ch forum. And like you don't report same way i don't like to discuss nigties, chaddis and read eyes and lips as being suggested on this thread so doesn't apply to me. This is the funniest place where fanatics calling others fanatics . Anyways i come here for entertainment just like je show and not to entertain others so ta ta ... but see you again here ...he he he.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Unknowndesire

Some fans opinions are not Criticism at all they're acting like parents to an actress who's almost in her 30's. Look at all the hate tweets Anuj is getting for just touching Sanaya and you see what I mean.

Criticism like
She should move on to better and better things
Sanaya should quit CC
She should not have chosen CC
CC should go off air
I wish Sanaya was Zoya in Qubool Hai
Sanaya should have taken Jaan instead
Sanaya is being forced to do all these romantic scenes
Sanaya is being forced to do SBS segments with Anuj
Sanaya looks annoyed and irritated with Anuj

^^What kind of Criticism are these really? I have enough of these eye reading and overprotectness over actors most of these were similar turns of event during her previous show where people are asking her to quit and all other nonsense she came out and made it clear I will stay there till the end the same case with this show at the end of the day it's her Job she's earning a living out of it let her be! and let the people who actually like the show watch it in peace please! Yes I'm liking the show it's not dragging and and over dramatic like other Indian shows out there it's pretty decent IMO. I want it to stay on air for awhile as I'm loving it.


Shoot.. so now there are people who have problems with Anuj touching Sanaya?! This is super annoying. Yes I personally have issues with being touched by the opposite sex if we are unrelated and this is why I wouldn't choose to be an actress too. I really started appreciating Anuj even more after hearing this from you.. The guys is sooo damn positive. He did not even bring it once how all this senseless criticism disturbs him. He still has the best of friendship with Sanaya.
FORCED SBS segments? I need to be blind to believe that!
And oh yes I just saw how annoyed and irritated Sanaya was with Anuj in her dance rehearsals for the Gold Awards. Are these people hallucinating or what?

It's obviously not criticism but senseless bashing and speculations. And I don't understand the motive behind it. If it is to shut down CC so that Sanaya can appear in a certain imagined show, then they are being so unrealistic.

Oh yes I am so going to hope that CC runs for quite some time...! And from the looks of it, it will...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Oyster


Shoot.. so now there are people who have problems with Anuj touching Sanaya?! This is super annoying. Yes I personally have issues with being touched by the opposite sex if we are unrelated and this is why I wouldn't choose to be an actress too. I really started appreciating Anuj even more after hearing this from you.. The guys is sooo damn positive. He did not even bring it once how all this senseless criticism disturbs him. He still has the best of friendship with Sanaya.
FORCED SBS segments? I need to be blind to believe that!
And oh yes I just saw how annoyed and irritated Sanaya was with Anuj in her dance rehearsals for the Gold Awards. Are these people hallucinating or what?

It's obviously not criticism but senseless bashing and speculations. And I don't understand the motive behind it. If it is to shut down CC so that Sanaya can appear in a certain imagined show, then they are being so unrealistic.

Oh yes I am so going to hope that CC runs for quite some time...! And from the looks of it, it will...

Yes some people do have problems with being touched by the opposite sex but this is Sanaya from what I seen of her she get along with guys more than girls as friends some people are just like that even I have more guy friends in school than girls they're great fun. Even Sanaya use to get bashed for that how she's flirting with the guys and all other crap I'm glad she isn't on any social networking site to face such fans she's a wise woman and made a good decision.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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to be really honest I simply can't understand why people don't like this show...the story line is simple yet beautiful...I love the show..FK forced acting really made the show a bit pathetic at the beginning but then I do admit he improved so since anuj arrival everything is perfect...the chemistry n all
sanaya as the modern bahu just trying hard to impress n make a place for herself in her inlaws...uma as the back stabbing mil is also understandable as her son also is invove so for me the story is just good...
since I heard the rumour that cc is under scanner I was simply shock...shows like uttaran pr nonsense filled like shows are running for years ...I don't understand indian audience at all
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Sonya I myself dont watch Chhan Chhan due to the Saas Bahu scenes. Otherwise its a good going show in comparison to the previous one.
But I certainly dont sit & point out only negative stuff in it I am trying to see positive stuff too.
I find Uma Ben a mix of Sanaya's previous show characters Anjali & Mami. Hence unable to watch those scenes.

Being pretty honest here. I try to contribute to the forum whenever I can & where ever I can.

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