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Ecrivain

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Posted: 7 years ago

#561

Originally posted by: Dreamer-89
satrupa and Anami scsne ddint work for me

I understand Ecri why it might look repetitive, there has been enough of tashan between the two which was placed in the right place of the storytelling.

The problem is the mother daughter duo is too far away from each other. Two individuals who are unwilling to bow down. Satrupa the mother who thinks blackmailing is the only way to get Anami to study.
Satrupa forgets that frustrating the daughter might get her temporary results but Is that what she wants? Satrupa is a mystery, what does she want? Does she wish for a relationship with Anami? Or Is she going to be satisfied as long as Anami transforms herself into the Anami who's fit to be the waaris of the mahal.

Writers have a huge challenge in front of them on how to carry forward the relationship of Satrupa Anami. Both being at each other's throats can be monotonous and take away the charm of the ma-beti tashsns. Wonder what will be the catalyst in changing the current equation between the two? Will Sudha's entry do the needful.

The father son scene was too good. Will write on chicks post 😳

I see your point and I also see what you mean with the challenge.

We are all ardent fans of the show and there has to be more to the mother daughter convo than just lamenting about what they can do.

So far, Satrupa ashen been guilty and nor has Anami had her way with anyone. It sort of comes across as empty to me. I get ti that Anami is 17 but then I hope to see more intelligent stuff in the show.

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Ecrivain

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Posted: 7 years ago

#562

Originally posted by: Dreamer-89

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chicksoup

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Posted: 7 years ago

#563

CPing what I wrote on ipk elsewhere.

OK, the thing is... I liked both the songs. Wish Ghani baanwri had not been defiled with the two vamps. Chandni deserved the song all to herself.

O re piyaa... Have this nagging doubt. Chandni is on a mission to expose Sasha. How genuine is it when she wishes Advaiy all the sweetness in his next relationship? One minute she had plans to stop the wedding, the next minute she mourns Advaiy's wedding! The song started out so abruptly... If she had remembered how he said nothing has changed, and then the dance had started...

I know there is no point analysing the show at this juncture, but the timing of the song and the emotion wishing a lover moving on, was a little off. That concept was great, though.

The concept that finally got to me, but was lost in execution, is the name Advaiy. It implies the very nature of the man. Chandni tries to differentiate between Advaiy and her Dev. But he is A Dwaiy... There is no dwaya concept here.

Through the journey, many a times Advaiy projects a dual personality. He tries to suppress that Dev in him, Leela maasi alerts Sasha about the Dev, and Chandni tries to evoke Dev. But in truth, he is one and the same... Dev is his beginning, Advaiy is what he is... Both the characters are merged in him so beautifully, even as people tend to analyse him as two. I feel Nani is the only one who knows this... That Dev is Advaiy, that will never change.

When this show started out as Hindu social, with such a beautiful concept- I hope I am not just reading too much into a name, but Advaiy fits this character so perfectly - why did the makers fail in projecting this idea more profoundly? I agree it has been shown now and then, but somewhere it got lost in a lot of fancy dress!

This is why this show is not a failure, just that it didn't achieve its potential.

In other words, I can understand how phenomenal this must have looked on paper! 👏

Edited by chicksoup - 7 years ago

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chicksoup

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Posted: 7 years ago

#564

Originally posted by: Ecrivain.

Soup

You dint get the crux of the praises, its all comparative.

You see the show has faired below the mark, but scenes like these and especially towards the end of the show gave away the effort of the team. Are you getting my point.

@bold word word word. I actually thought that Chandni was drunk in the precap day before, but she was suddenly turned into someone who had a passion for dancing. 😕 Maybe the CVs forgot that Advay plays guitar and could shake a leg and not really Chandni.

Anyway, ST was fine yesterday minus the voice modulation.

Sobti was ❤️

I get the comparative bit, compared to previous episodes, but comparison to season 1 is obvious ramanchi. 😆

Some people swear this is Baruns best chemistry till date😆 I found very little chemistry from ST, so these fans must mean they prefer an actress who makes Barun look the ultimate actor, in comparison to her. What else can I say! 😉

Sheets track. Just yesterday I was thinking how Sheetal was born out of creative dearth, and how early on Sheetal had to be reborn as Sasha! 🤣

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Posted: 7 years ago

#565

Originally posted by: chicksoup

I get the comparative bit, compared to previous episodes, but comparison to season 1 is obvious ramanchi.😆

Some people swear this is Baruns best chemistry till date😆I found very little chemistry from ST, so these fans must mean they prefer an actress who makes Barun look the ultimate actor, in comparison to her. What else can I say!😉

Sheets track. Just yesterday I was thinking how Sheetal was born out of creative dearth, and how early on Sheetal had to be reborn as Sasha!🤣

Chick what you wrote on advay dev 👏 it's sad that what was on paper failed to come to actual reality!

Dev has not become advay. Advay is part of Dev. We all evolve as a person over the years. It doesn't mean we lose the part of us that was our past. The past influences the present. It's upto the individual if they want to hold onto the past to wallow in it and destroy the future too.

The base plot where advay is holding a 8 year olds actions as the sole reason for him to come back and seek justice for the family didn't work for me. But the character his brokenness the swift changes from dev to advay the glimpses of the excellent acting in the beginning stood out. Made me wish and understand more than what was seen on screen😭

Chemistry is not about two real actors, it's about excellent writing an execution that brings about the so called chemistry in a story. The current Jodi doesn't look bad they look good together, he's handsome she's pretty but in their characters their real self is not enough and cannot overshadow what's lacking in the script.
Look at RJC even Pujan and Kamini have a chemistry. Hilarious as the two are I enjoy their scenes. Sudha and Narottam is brilliant. Satrupa and Baldev there's no need to even talk about Adhiraj and Anami! script is what matters bottom line.

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chicksoup

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Posted: 7 years ago

#566

Benna,

Yes. Script is what matters ultimately..

So true about rkc! Even pujan Kamini has chemistry. 😆

Ipk - Will never regret watching it. Despite its failures, Barun's work still stands out! 👏

Also, I don't think Gul was around when o re piya was shot.

She wouldn't have done it this way. That heavy Payal was more suited for a danseuse... I can imagine Sudha and Baldev doing the song, the way it was shot.

For a nazuk girl like Chandni, a delicate Payal would have been better.

Edited by chicksoup - 7 years ago

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Ecrivain

@Ecrivain

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Posted: 7 years ago

#567

Originally posted by: chicksoup

CPing what I wrote on ipk elsewhere.

OK, the thing is... I liked both the songs. Wish Ghani baanwri had not been defiled with the two vamps. Chandni deserved the song all to herself.
O re piyaa... Have this nagging doubt. Chandni is on a mission to expose Sasha. How genuine is it when she wishes Advaiy all the sweetness in his next relationship? One minute she had plans to stop the wedding, the next minute she mourns Advaiy's wedding! The song started out so abruptly... If she had remembered how he said nothing has changed, and then the dance had started...

I know there is no point analysing the show at this juncture, but the timing of the song and the emotion wishing a lover moving on, was a little off. That concept was great, though.

The concept that finally got to me, but was lost in execution, is the name Advaiy. It implies the very nature of the man. Chandni tries to differentiate between Advaiy and her Dev. But he is A Dwaiy... There is no dwaya concept here.

Through the journey, many a times Advaiy projects a dual personality. He tries to suppress that Dev in him, Leela maasi alerts Sasha about the Dev, and Chandni tries to evoke Dev. But in truth, he is one and the same... Dev is his beginning, Advaiy is what he is... Both the characters are merged in him so beautifully, even as people tend to analyse him as two. I feel Nani is the only one who knows this... That Dev is Advaiy, that will never change.

When this show started out as Hindu social, with such a beautiful concept- I hope I am not just reading too much into a name, but Advaiy fits this character so perfectly - why did the makers fail in projecting this idea more profoundly? I agree it has been shown now and then, but somewhere it got lost in a lot of fancy dress!

This is why this show is not a failure, just that it didn't achieve its potential.

In other words, I can understand how phenomenal this must have looked on paper! 👏

@bold Soup, lemme talk about this first. Idk if you recollect but when the show had begun I had written extensively about this that Advay is unique, but in the context of the show it is, one or united or not different.

According to Hindu liturgy, the name has been taken up from the name of a Pandit, apparently the one who had deciphered something for his people. And that is why he was condoned with the title of Advay. That said, in the show and when the script was put out, Advay was not a means to an end but the end in himself. He was to end Dev, he was to end Chandni 's misery and he was to avenge the wrongs meted out to him and Chandni, But the theme of the show was very diametrically changed in the third week and that is where the story lost its essence.

Tbh, its not possible for a PH to begin or sell the show to the GEC without a script. But yes, the execution failing, the show turning around and the following after math have to be credited or de-creditd in this case to the PH.

The script writer and the screen play writer, both are equally responsible as is the direction and the execution. The acting was the only thing that kept the show afloat for the while it was on air.

Anyway, letting bygones be bygones. The scene O re piya was fine with me, but I wont say it struck a chord or even remotely stayed with me for the day. And that says a lot about how it was and what it was. But yes, ST was pretty fine there and Sobti was par excellence.

The prob is Chandni's sudden 'Nartaki' avatar ddint gel with the episode.

Edited by Ecrivain. - 7 years ago

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Ecrivain

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Posted: 7 years ago

#568

Originally posted by: chicksoup

I get the comparative bit, compared to previous episodes, but comparison to season 1 is obvious ramanchi. 😆

Some people swear this is Baruns best chemistry till date😆 I found very little chemistry from ST, so these fans must mean they prefer an actress who makes Barun look the ultimate actor, in comparison to her. What else can I say! 😉

Sheets track. Just yesterday I was thinking how Sheetal was born out of creative dearth, and how early on Sheetal had to be reborn as Sasha! 🤣

😆😆 On Sasha. But tbh Sheetal still had a class and Madhura Naik was convincing. Sasha looks like she is smitten for all the wrong reasons and that is it. My qualms however, would always be with Arav, Bubbli and Adi.

Chemistry, it comes from the script and the show's entirety which brings about the soul of the show and connects it to the hearts of the viewers. When the show failed, miserably at that, then there is no question of chemistry, let alone a good one.

But yes, each one is entitled to their opinion. Some find Sanaya's chemistry with AS top notch and some find Sobti good with ST/ SJ. I would say that chemistry alone never suffices for success, its the team work and chemistry is part of that. That way, season 1 had the most potent and organic chemistry, both in terms of the popularity offline and the presence online. Enough said.

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Ecrivain

@Ecrivain

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Posted: 7 years ago

#569

Originally posted by: Dreamer-89

Chick what you wrote on advay dev 👏 it's sad that what was on paper failed to come to actual reality!

Dev has not become advay. Advay is part of Dev. We all evolve as a person over the years. It doesn't mean we lose the part of us that was our past. The past influences the present. It's upto the individual if they want to hold onto the past to wallow in it and destroy the future too.

The base plot where advay is holding a 8 year olds actions as the sole reason for him to come back and seek justice for the family didn't work for me. But the character his brokenness the swift changes from dev to advay the glimpses of the excellent acting in the beginning stood out. Made me wish and understand more than what was seen on screen😭

Chemistry is not about two real actors, it's about excellent writing an execution that brings about the so called chemistry in a story. The current Jodi doesn't look bad they look good together, he's handsome she's pretty but in their characters their real self is not enough and cannot overshadow what's lacking in the script.
Look at RJC even Pujan and Kamini have a chemistry. Hilarious as the two are I enjoy their scenes. Sudha and Narottam is brilliant. Satrupa and Baldev there's no need to even talk about Adhiraj and Anami! script is what matters bottom line.

@bold Word. I think Sobti was so hopeful and he put in his 100% cos one can see the change in his eyes when he had entered the Vashisth haveli and the way he had looked around and then when he had clicked pictures. The only good thing from IPK3 was Sobti has emerged out polished and better, if that is even possible. Its a pity the show never took off.

@blud could not have said it better. I am liking Pujan too. He has a charm of his own, But Benna, that is a fact, every show has connect with the audience through side characters too. And in IPK3 that connect was never built up. Ritu was a winner but she was set aside too.

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Ecrivain

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Posted: 7 years ago

#570

Originally posted by: chicksoup
Benna,
Yes. Script is what matters ultimately..
So true about rkc! Even pujan Kamini has chemistry. 😆

Ipk - Will never regret watching it. Despite its failures, Barun's work still stands out! 👏

Also, I don't think Gul was around when o re piya was shot.

She wouldn't have done it this way. That heavy Payal was more suited for a danseuse... I can imagine Sudha and Baldev doing the song, the way it was shot.

For a nazuk girl like Chandni, a delicate Payal would have been better.

@bold why do you say that? I think the heavy anklet had a raw appeal to it. I liked it.

@blue Word. Bas that is all that matters in the end.