RajuKeBaju#12 -IO- Jaake bhi tu na jaye =P Mod Note 104 - Page 23

Originally posted by: nneeiill

@nur

yaa nur same insititue..usko vdo kaahe nahi hai..me sad

Originally posted by: AreYaar

The ppl who can ACTUALLY act and dance really well...unka hi video nahin milta...this is called ultimately IRONY😆...

Originally posted by: .Lilith.

Erm, sorry Anu. The 4G modem is lying in dad's office so I won't be able o post the vm today. Gotta wait till he comes back.

Off-topic, I was reading "Prisoner of Azkaban" today and I realised, I've never really thought much about Sirius's character beyond him being a part of Marauders, being badass and being Harry's Godfather.

He is one character I have loved since book 3 and I was mightily upset when JKR decided to kill him.

However, unlike the explanations she has offered regarding several of the characters and their BGs, their futures, Padfoot remains a mystery.

I received a real jhatka when I was reading book 5, the part where he is not happy with Harry getting a clean chit from the ministry. This is where I started wondering about his friendship with James.

James had a good bringing up which Sirius didn't. James had a life beyond Marauders, Sirius (acc to me) didn't have a life beyond James. No matter how much one argues, truth remains that he was never the same with either Remus or Peter as he was with James.

This friendship was more like an obsession in Sirius's case! Harry looked like James so he started seeing James in him after coming out of Azkaban.

Anyone who wants to discuss this? I'd really love to know what others think. 😃

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Sirius was a complicated character and the fact that JKR just about teased at his issues in some ways contributes to his enduring mysterious appeal to the fans.

You are correct about his upbringing shaping up his personality in many ways...he was looking for a surrogate family when he found James and subsequently the Marauders...but he definitely hero-worshipped James...and Harry's resemblance to James became an extension of sorts for Sirius...it was subconscious, he couldn't help it but being the kind of intense character he was by nature, it was not surprising...he was always a troublemaker, looking for thrills and challenges too...him and James were leaders by nature...so ofcourse they gravitated towards each other...Remus and the others were sort of the followers that carried along...but James was always the center for Sirius...that is why he took his loss the hardest and tried desperately to rekindle it somehow through Harry.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

LOL no I never found them unhealthy in that sense...they gave off a vibe of brash teenagers who were somewhat immature bullies too, no doubt...but there was redemption in the form of Lilly...the fact that Lilly's presence tempered them rather than bringing out worse in them showed that ultimately their goodness won out over their immaturity.

That doesn't take away from that intriguing chapter from Snape's POV either but that is the beauty of it...I don't find either of them to be fully heroes or villains...Snape did plenty of immature and petty things too...and his obsession with Lilly was definitely unhealthy too in a sense...but then again ultimately it became an instrument for good as that is all that kept him from going over the edge into complete darkness...Lilly's love saved both James and Snape in different ways.

Dumbledore and Grindelwald's case is different...lol cuz JKR dropped elephant sized hints about them having been lovers😆...so that became a different kind of complication...it wasn't just the case of immature teenagers...Dumbledore was in love with him and went to different extents in that love...

Sirius was not in love with James...for him, James was the brother he never had...

And KY2 ka obsessed brigade is on another level...only parallel I see is that creepy teenager from The Fall as I said some days back😆

Originally posted by: .Lilith.

Honestly speaking, I never really found Snape very heroic- unlike many do. He hated and bullied Neville simply because of the fact that Voldemort chose to kill JiLy over his parents and that he's not the chosen one. Wuteven. 😕

He was brave, yes. One of the bravest character of HP but I never really found him to be logical despite him trying to make people believe that he is by having a cold-exterior. There were times I wondered who was he more obsessed with- Lily or James. 😆