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Posted: 10 years ago
no wonder Sisters show jump like anything... Promo was dramatic ... Keep showing
7 pm tough competition still managed to raise... So channel got another serial
BV stable ... Rest gains like anything ...
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The REAL reason why TV shows are going wrong

'Thirty years ago, if you walked into a chawl, there would be three television sets in 30 houses. Today, you'll see television sets in all 30 houses. The viewers have increased, but of a certain strata.

Sadly, the educated and upper classes have stopped watching television shows because of the availability of the Internet.'

Balika Vadhu writer Gajra Kottary tries to explain to Ronjita Kulkarni/ Rediff.com where Indian television is going wrong.

Toral Rasputra as Anandi in Balika VadhuTelevision shows, these days, are all about numbers.

"Numbers have become so important that if a show isn't doing well, or if it is taking time to settle in, people change the DNA of the show," Gajra Kottary says.

Kottary is one of the writers of Balika Vadhu, a hugely popular show that has been on air for over six years now.

The numbers game is also one of the reasons why the soapiness' is increasing in Indian television and the reason why we cannot rise above the drama in the great Indian family.

"It's very difficult to explore new subjects because the numbers ticker is constantly ticking in your head," she says.

Gajra, who has recently penned a fiction novel called Once Upon A Star, to get over her work pressures and frustrations, tries to explain why Indian television is not at par with international fare.

In the picture: Toral Rasputra as Anandi in Balika Vadhu

How did you start out as a telly writer?

I was a housewife for eight years, bringing up my two kids. That's when I discovered I loved writing fiction and wrote my first book of short stories.

I gave that book to Mahesh Bhatt, who was associated with the Plus channel. My husband was also working in Plus channel then.

His wife, Soni Razdan, read the stories. She was getting into television at that time and asked me if I would like to write for some shows.

That's how, in 2001, I started writing for a weekly show and loved the experience. After Astitva, there was no dearth of offers for television shows.

How did you pick your shows?

Creative people tend to get very insecure because sometimes, even after a very successful show, you may still be sitting at home for a whole year.

Sometimes, you get offers from the channels. You may take it if the money is very good but you need to exercise your choice. That's why I'm doing fairly good work.

The concept of my new show, Satrangi Sasural, was given to me and my team of four writers by Zee TV. We have worked together for over 15 years on shows like Astitva, Jyoti, Balika Vadhu and Veera.

I thought of the concept of Godh Bharai and offered it to Sony Entertainment Television.

Why haven't you tried thrillers?

I don't enjoy writing thrillers, though I love watching them. I would record 24 if I missed an episode. It was a break for me.

I'm completely seeped in my shows because I've been doing it for so many years. I have a lot of stories inside me. It's like Draupadi's sari, it goes on and on -- you discover more and more and more.

But television, these days, has become too soapy'.

It's true. A lot of people tell me that they used to love Astitva and Balika Vadhu but not any more.

I went for a seminar for writers, broadcasters, producers... and everyone was tearing their hair because of the numbers game.

Numbers have become so important that if a show isn't doing well, or if it is taking time to settle in, people change the DNA of the show.

It has become very difficult to explore different subjects. The numbers ticker is always ticking in your head. It's very stressful, and the pressure in the last two-three years has increased.

I write books to battle that frustration because I have complete freedom and don't have to battle any pressure.

Who is your target audience?

The audience pyramid is becoming bigger and bigger.

Thirty years ago, if you walked into a chawl, there would be three television sets in 30 houses. Today, you'll see television sets in all 30 houses. The viewers have increased, but of a certain strata.

Sadly, the educated and upper classes have stopped watching television shows because of the availability of the Internet.

So increasingly, we have to write in a manner that appeals to this strata. If we get too intellectual, they will switch off. And they are our advertisers' market.

Take the number one show of today, Diya Aur Baati. It has a fantastic theme. This girl is married a halwai (sweetmaker) but she wants to get into the police force. And he's helping her fulfill her dream.

People have really connected with that.

Every girl in that chawl is going to think that she wants to do something with her life but she's shackled in life because her parents will probably want to get her married off, and she's probably going to have a monster mother-in-law. She knows how her life may turn out but she dreams of having a husband like that.

So we have to write within the parameters of what people would like to watch.

At the same time, you can't be too repetitive. People may watch Duplicate 1 and Duplicate 2 but they won't watch the third one. And that's where television writers are going wrong -- they are only sitting and doing maths. That doesn't work beyond a point.

How difficult is it writing Balika Vadhu, which has been going on for six years?

It's very tough. We keep weaving new ideas in the main storyline. We know the audience will not accept certain things. For example, Anandi will never do something that is unethical because people look up to her. So we can't play with that.

But within the parameters, we can play with the story -- the social problems that come to her, how people try to manipulate her and how she emerges heroic.

Gajra Kottary

Image: Gajra Kottary shows off her new book Once Upon A Star

Tell us about your new book, Once Upon A Star. Your protagonists are named Raj and Simran. Are you a fan of Dilwale Dulhaniya Le Jayenge?

I liked the film. The reason I used the names Raj and Simran is because they're the perfect couple but, in real life, there are no perfect couples. My idea was that perfection can be broken too.

The third character in the book is Sia, which is another name for Sita -- someone who can do no wrong.

Once Upon A Star is about a Bollywood star couple named Raj and Simran, whose marriage falls apart when Raj falls in love with an upcoming actress named Sia and has a child with her.

You explored a broken marriage in your first book, Broken Melodies, as well.

Family relationships mean a lot to me. I write about them in my shows too. That has become my genre.

Once Upon A Star is a woman who gets shattered, but picks herself up again. Showbiz makes it more challenging to make a marriage work. It's not easy for today's superstars; even their kids are recognised today.

You had worked with Honey Irani on a film script earlier. Is the book inspired from her life? Or is it closer to Boney Kapoor's former wife Mona Kapoor, with whom you were a Facebook friend?

My heart went out to what Mona Kapoor went through. It is not her story but she was a huge inspiration to me. One of my biggest regrets is that I never actually got to meet her because I did not realise how seriously ill she was.

I've often noticed that unless there's a crisis, women don't feel motivated to discover their own identities. Women are very complacent -- they revel in being mothers, wives, etc. Then suddenly something hits them and their whole identity, in terms of their husband, is taken away. That's when they realise that they do have strengths of their own.

I have had friends who have gone through this. I watched the whole gamut -- the first seeds of the fact that there might be a break-up, to denial, fighting it out, trying to lose weight...

I have even had a friend who tried to look like the other woman so that she could appeal to her husband. That was so painful for me to watch.

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Posted: 10 years ago
BV let's see what happens next week - two things that have changed
Rival channel - Durga Thakur has left and Anandi's promo has started
Maha Kumbh is picking up too
Shastri sisters I think marriage has happened so it may go down a bit.
Udaan - I think the turn is coming up now.
Looks like Chakor will end up in Haweli just like Anandi ended up in Badi Haweli
Her lucknow trip is probably to give her a taste of what world is really like and make her aware what she is going to lose in life
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Posted: 10 years ago
Can't understand so much hatred for Dsa😕
Dsa was really tough on Anandi and at times so harsh but behind all those actions there was never any malice or hatred towards Anandi.
If we see the begining episodes even before she met Anandi she considered that little girl as Devi ma's blessings to her family
All her actions were intended to rein in spirited little girl who was very impulsive.Even though she had a very pure heart and mind she was still a small child who didn't realise the implications of her actions and too young and inexperienced to anticipate the complications of her actions.

She was more interested in grooming that little girl into an ideal beendini from her perspective.Her actions resulted in a lot of damage but she was never vindictive.

Comparing DB with Dsa is a bit too much. Dsa even when she was mad with that little girl she always wanted that girl to have the best of what she could afford as a matriarch of the family.There is no doubt she was very harsh towards Sumi Gehna and Anandi but she honestly believed that they are inheritors of her legacy and her sons's and grandson's well being rested in the hands of these women.As far as she was concerned she put the lives of her sons in the hands of these women.
Behind that harsh exteriors as well as harsh behaviour and old fashioned thoughts she only had their happiness in her mind.It's another matter she failed to understand these women and did not know how to reach out to them.

DB - She never wanted her son to be happy with anyone else other than her and she was prepared to ruin her son's marriage out of spite and hatred.

How can DB and Dsa be compared?
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Posted: 10 years ago

Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam

Father is flying a kite.

His son is watching him carefully.

After some time son says "Dad. Because of the string the kite is not able to go any further higher."

Hearing this, the father smiles and breaks the string.

The kite goes higher after breaking of the thread and then shortly after that it comes and falls on the ground.

The child is very dejected and sad.

The father sits next to him and calmly expalains

"Son, in life we reach a certain level of prosperity and then we feel that there are certain things in our life that are not letting us grow any further like Home, Family, Culture Friendship etc.

We feel we want to be free from those strings which we believe are stopping us from going higher.

But, remember son. Going higher is easier than staying at the higher level.

And friends, family and culture etc are the things that will help us stay stable at the high heights that we have achieved.

If we try to break away from those strings our condition will be similar to the kite."

Moral : "Never go away from culture, family, friends and relationships as they help keep you stable while you are flying high."

Life is Beautiful!!

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Posted: 10 years ago
Thanks Appy for GK's interview..
this particular observation just stuck me :

women don't feel motivated to discover their own identities. Women are very complacent -- they revel in being mothers, wives, etc. Then suddenly something hits them and their whole identity, in terms of their husband, is taken away. That's when they realise that they do have strengths of their own.

Exactly what Aji went through when her world fell apart after J's betrayal..


Guess the challenge before BV writers is to increase the drama/dhim tana quotient without changing the DNA of the serial.. -- pre-leap, post leap, Ansh marriage had lots and lots of drama/ the kind of suspense element...with Ansh settling down - there isn't much suspense in the life of A...
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It's very tough. We keep weaving new ideas in the main storyline. We know the audience will not accept certain things. For example, Anandi will never do something that is unethical because people look up to her. So we can't play with that.

But within the parameters, we can play with the story -- the social problems that come to her, how people try to manipulate her and how she emerges heroic.


true... but last year 2013

they practically make look like its not A's story no continuity in tracks ...even 2014 they try to get back on track...still some discontinuity still there ... after DB entry they got their high they shd have use it...nah they jump next...

even now Maheshwari guy thing still hanging whether it will come or not not sure... means now with good news in focus they will show family dispute...


people love when leads get into trouble but they also love when lead won eventually

DB still not lost it Anoop join her still his story has loopholes 😈


hope with good news they cover all



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Posted: 10 years ago
Hope they will give more promos.
Different can be dramatic tooo.

Air it often also.

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: blushing

It's very tough. We keep weaving new ideas in the main storyline. We know the audience will not accept certain things. For example, Anandi will never do something that is unethical because people look up to her. So we can't play with that.

But within the parameters, we can play with the story -- the social problems that come to her, how people try to manipulate her and how she emerges heroic.


true... but last year 2013

they practically make look like its not A's story no continuity in tracks ...even 2014 they try to get back on track...still some discontinuity still there ... after DB entry they got their high they shd have use it...nah they jump next...

even now Maheshwari guy thing still hanging whether it will come or not not sure... means now with good news in focus they will show family dispute...


people love when leads get into trouble but they also love when lead won eventually

DB still not lost it Anoop join her still his story has loopholes 😈


hope with good news they cover all



Whole of 2013 after HM got over the entire slant changed.It should have been Anandi adjusting to new life but it became Sanchi story.
She helped Chanda and then after that Bhaili Ithwari bazar and after that nothing
Then suddenly deciding to adopt a child
After adoption story picked up with Anandi learning to be mother but then they made biggest blunder by introducing rape and making Sanchi MahanđŸ„±đŸ˜›
Again after that all short stories
Now only it is moving on.
I don't mind Anop drama if we get to see Anandi's professional life through that
Shiv's professional life I guess will be episodics only
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Posted: 10 years ago
I saw promo in CNWK ... look best on TV

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