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Originally posted by: elasingh
I have nbot watched Siyasat till now...but what I find surprising is why Abul Fazl is being painted like this in that book? AF was regarded as liberal and sunnis took him as shias and shias took him to be sunnis...I wonder why he is being shown as opposing Jazia?
Originally posted by: elasingh
Rashmi I too think same that real Ruk must have been very dark and mean character...
Originally posted by: history_geek
Rashmi,
At present i am not completely aware of the circumstances which led to Khurram's handing over to Ruqs. :)
But, this was a very normal custom. Ruqayya Begum was childless throughout her life. And she was given a kid in her old age when she was in her 50's. I simply do not understand what stopped Akbar from giving any other of his kids to Ruqayya Begum before this.?.
He was giving kids to Salima and his mother. But why not Ruqs.?.
Anyways, this was a normal custom in Mughal household to give kids to childless begums. Ruqayya Begum is not a special case. This is not a big deal, though it may look cruel in present times.
I am searching this also. Pata nahi kahan kuch mil jaye. 😉
Coming to Man Bai and Jagat Gosain. Man Bai was very much dear to Salim till her death. She was pampered a lot by this chap. And Khusrau was a very much fine prince, not a mental patient. He was groomed to be made the next ruler by Akbar as per what i have read.
In Siyaasat, we do not have Hamida and Salima Begum and MUZ, who were the REAL powers and handled Akbar's harem. But only we have Ruqayya Begum. 😉 And it seems Salim is the hero and Abul Fazl is going to be a negative role. 😕
Jagat Gosain and her rivalry with Nur Jahan is very famous. 🤣
She was too much of uncontrollable "mirchi" for Nur Jahan. 😆
I was reading on these ladies only few days back. Will post about Jagat and Nur soon. :)
There are so many topics to be posted, hence i am finding it difficult now.
Do read blog discussions if you like. You will get lot of hardcore history stuff there. I am mostly active there, will visit here also. 😊
We were discussing why Salim was not present in Agra on death of MUZ. We discussed this in details on the blog few days back. If you missed i am posting the same thing here also.
Salim was near Ajmer when MUZ died in Agra and possibly the news of her death was given late to Salim. We discussed this few days back in details. :)
PS : That post where we were discussing this was generating unusually high traffic. ;p
Originally posted by: Rashmi81
Twentieth century book as an incident that on her marriage day,Manbai a 14 year old girl , was slapped by one of the royal maids for no reason.Can it be possible? MUZ would allow her niece to be treated like this ?
Originally posted by: history_geek
Rashmi,
At present i am not completely aware of the circumstances which led to Khurram's handing over to Ruqs. :)
But, this was a very normal custom. Ruqayya Begum was childless throughout her life. And she was given a kid in her old age when she was in her 50's. I simply do not understand what stopped Akbar from giving any other of his kids to Ruqayya Begum before this.?.
He was giving kids to Salima and his mother. But why not Ruqs.?.
Anyways, this was a normal custom in Mughal household to give kids to childless begums. Ruqayya Begum is not a special case. This is not a big deal, though it may look cruel in present times.
I am searching this also. Pata nahi kahan kuch mil jaye. 😉
Coming to Man Bai and Jagat Gosain. Man Bai was very much dear to Salim till her death. She was pampered a lot by this chap. And Khusrau was a very much fine prince, not a mental patient. He was groomed to be made the next ruler by Akbar as per what i have read.
In Siyaasat, we do not have Hamida and Salima Begum and MUZ, who were the REAL powers and handled Akbar's harem. But only we have Ruqayya Begum. 😉 And it seems Salim is the hero and Abul Fazl is going to be a negative role. 😕
Jagat Gosain and her rivalry with Nur Jahan is very famous. 🤣
She was too much of uncontrollable "mirchi" for Nur Jahan. 😆
I was reading on these ladies only few days back. Will post about Jagat and Nur soon. :)
There are so many topics to be posted, hence i am finding it difficult now.
Do read blog discussions if you like. You will get lot of hardcore history stuff there. I am mostly active there, will visit here also. 😊
We were discussing why Salim was not present in Agra on death of MUZ. We discussed this in details on the blog few days back. If you missed i am posting the same thing here also.
Salim was near Ajmer when MUZ died in Agra and possibly the news of her death was given late to Salim. We discussed this few days back in details. :)
PS : That post where we were discussing this was generating unusually high traffic. ;p
People of the country were extremely terrified by the oppression of the emperors of Delhi during the last three hundred years. But as the emperor Akbar occupied the throne of Delhi, there was a great sigh of relief and there was a new ray of hope among the people. Akbar was keen to know about various religions. Knowing their fundamental principles, he respected and honored all the religions. He tried to mitigate animosity between the Hindus and the Muslims. He made sincere efforts to temper religious fanaticism.
Once Akbar, the emperor, was standing in a balcony of his grand royal palace and had his eyes set on the highway when he saw a procession in which a shravika (a Jain laywoman) in a chariot was bowing to people all around and intermittently was making offerings to the people. She was preceded by a band and all the people in the procession sang auspicious songs.
Akbar was greatly surprised at the sight and asked the royal servants about the procession. Having inquired about it, the royal servants informed him that the shravika being a follower of the Jain religion, had undertaken fasts for six months and the Jain Sangha of Agra had organized that procession in honor of the prolonged penance of Champa, the name by which she was known.
Akbar was astonished at the fact that one could survive without food for as many as six months; since he knew too well as to how extremely difficult it was to observe roja' (a fast observed by muslims) for a month despite the permission for a meal at every night.
The royal servants added to Akbar's astonishment as they said that the shravika named Champa had never taken a meal either during the day or at night for six long months.
Akbar thought it to be impossible; hence he decided to test its veracity. Champa shravika was invited to the court with utmost respect. Akbar told her that it was impossible that anybody could undertake such fasts. Champa shravika replied that the strength of religion would make everything possible. Akbar added that he would believe Champa shravika if she would undergo fast in the palace under the watch of his guards.
Champa shravika agreed to the proposal. She stayed at the palace with full respect and honor and guards were posted outside the palace. On expiry of the time limit, Akbar wanted to know about her fasts and he was told that she had not taken any food either during the day or at night. Akbar's surprise was genuine. He had banned killing of any living creature for the days for which Champa shravika had gone on fast. Akbar praised and complimented her. Champa shravika said politely that it was possible because of the impact of the religion, the gods and the guru.
Akbar, the emperor, became interested and wanted to have detailed knowledge about the Jain religion. In all humbleness he requested Acharyashri Hirvijaysuriji to come to the palace for the purpose. After Bhagwan Mahavira, it was Champa shravika who had performed such a rare penance by undergoing six months fast. These fasts created great reverence in Akbar's mind for the Jain religion, the Jain Acharyas and the Jain shravaks and shravikas. As a result he abolished the poll-tax levied on the Jain pilgrims. He acquainted himself with the significance of non-violence from Acharyashri Hirvijaysuriji - all this was the result of the most extraordinary penance of Champa shravika.
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