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Originally posted by: daenerysnow

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Kit and Emilia awwwn

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Originally posted by: daenerysnow
Indeed ive read that one about the Whitewalkers; GRRM insinuated that he was different to authors such as Tolkein in the sense that all his characters are neither black nor white, they don't belong to one pole or the other. If that's the case then it shouldn't stop with the seemingly non-human whitewalkers. Id like to believe they too have their own civilisation, motives etc and not simply being used as a foil to illuminate the greatness of other characters around them, where they are simply bad creatures and only that. That's another reason why someone like Ramsay interests me, I feel his relationship with his father is so important to the way he is. He is tagged as the sadistic psycho, and it just feels out of synch with GRRM to make that his only label. Theres some theory that my brother pointed out which proposes that Ramsay or Roose is a whitewalker;, carrying out the duties to destroy the humans, I actually haven't read that one, but will be doing that next!

That is the problem with the story progressing through POVs of various people. People who were ill treated, when we read their POV, will always think & see only the worst of their tormentors. Like when we see the Mad King through Ned's, Jaime's, Cat's POV he is this mad man who was cruel. No one ever mentions that he was also an extremely shrewd man. Or that he had fought bravely in the war of the Ninepenny Kings & won his spurs. He was mad, but not mad in the traditional sense of the word. His ambitions were so inhuman that in the end he was seen as Mad. And compared to him the song singing, making girls cry with his songs, harp playing dreamer Rhaegar becomes the hero whose death everyone mourns forgetting that it were his actions/ inactions which proved a catalyst to the rebellion & led to the ultimate end of the Targ dynasty.

Ramsay, Tywin, Stannis, Roose, Walder Frey & in the future books maybe the WW too, etc suffer because of this same POV bias. We see Ramsay & Roose only through Theon's eyes & hence we only see the tormentor side of them. But Roose is a brilliant politician in my opinion & though Ramsay is sadistic that doesn't mean he is brainless.

@Roose: I once read some theory that Roose must be a vampire since he is always pictured as this cold cold person who never eats😆 This Roose = white walker is new to me. Though I have read that Craster was the WW's stooge providing them with kids🤢

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Originally posted by: panchaali

what????😲

In the books an old man teaches Arya the ways of the Faceless Men. In the show it will be Jaqen who will be doing that❤️

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NCW on the cover page of Men's Health

"The Westeros kingslayer (known at home as Nikolaj Coster-Waldau) reveals his training secrets, the future for Game of Thrones and why he'd "crush" Gerard Butler.

V doesn't come much bigger than Game of Thrones. In scale, its budget ($6m an hour) makes House of Cards look like a school play. And its viewership (18.4m an episode) makes even The Sopranos look more wiseguy than godfather. Especially since a certain leader of the free world considers it a must watch.

At its heart is the one-handed but still sword-wielding kingslayer Jaime Lannister, a man whose lust for his sister is only matched by his taste for battle. But the man who portrays him, Danish star Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, couldn't be further from the circus that has, as he reveals in our exclusive cover interview out on Friday 6 March, inspired fans to hide out in golf course bunkers to catch a glimpse of him.

The gym is his refuge from "that craziness". But rather than building raw power like the Mountain or Game of Thrones alum Jason Momoa, Coster-Waldau turns his own body into the ultimate strength-building machine, for lean muscle that's as functional as it is aesthetic. "I spend more time on mobility," he says. "But I feel stronger than I ever have." Get a taster of what we couldn't fit into the mag below, then grab the April issue for the full interview and the Jaime Lannister training and diet plan to take you to the top of your own personal battleground. Mr Obama, your new workout programme has arrived.

Nikolaj Coster-Waldau on...

...the future for Game of Thrones
[The show bosses] know as much as George RR Martin knows. He hasn't written the books, but he knows how he wants it to end. Well, I think he's written one of them now. I don't know when it comes out but I'd assume soon. All the details, they're going to have to come up with them themselves. It's going to be interesting because I think the show is going to finish before the last book comes out. There'll be quite a big difference when it does.

...eating as much protein as Khal Drago
For breakfast I'd have five eggs and salmon then a protein shake a couple of hours in. Lunch would be two skinless chicken breasts, veggies, some carbs as well. In the afternoon more protein, another shake. But if you have too many shakes, you can't take a dump. Jason's very advanced in that whole bulking up thing. He will literally always carry a chicken breast on his body. You can find it in a pocket in his trousers. It's always there.

...battling with Gerard Butler
In the gym, I'd crush him. But who'd win in a fight between Jaime Lannister and Leonidas from 300? That's a good question. Jaime would probably talk to Leonidas and make him do something stupid. He had a bit of a short temper. I think Jaime would just have called the Mountain. Why risk it, if you've got a Mountain to call?"

@bold: Does he mean the Winds of Winter

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That is the problem with the story progressing through POVs of various people. People who were ill treated, when we read their POV, will always think & see only the worst of their tormentors. Like when we see the Mad King through Ned's, Jaime's, Cat's POV he is this mad man who was cruel. No one ever mentions that he was also an extremely shrewd man. Or that he had fought bravely in the war of the Ninepenny Kings & won his spurs. He was mad, but not mad in the traditional sense of the word. His ambitions were so inhuman that in the end he was seen as Mad. And compared to him the song singing, making girls cry with his songs, harp playing dreamer Rhaegar becomes the hero whose death everyone mourns forgetting that it were his actions/ inactions which proved a catalyst to the rebellion & led to the ultimate end of the Targ dynasty.

Ramsay, Tywin, Stannis, Roose, Walder Frey & in the future books maybe the WW too, etc suffer because of this same POV bias. We see Ramsay & Roose only through Theon's eyes & hence we only see the tormentor side of them. But Roose is a brilliant politician in my opinion & though Ramsay is sadistic that doesn't mean he is brainless.

@Roose: I once read some theory that Roose must be a vampire since he is always pictured as this cold cold person who never eats😆 This Roose = white walker is new to me. Though I have read that Craster was the WW's stooge providing them with kids🤢

Exactly, whereas the nature of POVS allow us to enter into the mind of that character and experience their reactions first hand, we only get to know some characters through the limited lens of others so that doesn't mean we receive their full story, its their perception of that person we see, a snippet of them which may be embellished to a degree, to what the person may be in their totality.

I love GRRM for not categorising in this way; as it almost feels childish to attribute black and white to two sets of people as opposed to it being a confusion of both, he understands the dimensions that constitutes a person that makes his characters so intricate. For instance Jaime was initially viewed as a jerk, we could only gage his image from the others who spoke mainly ill of him so that's what he became to us before we saw things from his view.

It makes me wonder how GRRM might approach a POV chapter on Ramsay, or Roose, might there be things relating to their past that make them slightly less monstrous compared to seeing them objectively through others? Im going to say it I just find reading about such characters more interesting than those who have a tendency to the good, which is something that has been overplayed so much.

And I do hope the Whitewalkers aren't just an excuse to compromise for the absence of non-human creatures without having motives of their own in the whole play of ice and fire.

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Originally posted by: daenerysnow
Exactly, whereas the nature of POVS allow us to enter into the mind of that character and experience their reactions first hand, we only get to know some characters through the limited lens of others so that doesn't mean we receive their full story, its their perception of that person we see, a snippet of them which may be embellished to a degree, to what the person may be in their totality.
I love GRRM for not categorising in this way; as it almost feels childish to attribute black and white to two sets of people as opposed to it being a confusion of both, he understands the dimensions that constitutes a person that makes his characters so intricate. For instance Jaime was initially viewed as a jerk, we could only gage his image from the others who spoke mainly ill of him so that's what he became to us before we saw things from his view.

It makes me wonder how GRRM might approach a POV chapter on Ramsay, or Roose, might there be things relating to their past that make them slightly less monstrous compared to seeing them objectively through others? Im going to say it I just find reading about such characters more interesting than those who have a tendency to the good, which is something that has been overplayed so much.

And I do hope the Whitewalkers aren't just an excuse to compromise for the absence of non-human creatures without having motives of their own in the whole play of ice and fire.

@bold: i agree. most of the times the tag of GOOD PEOPLE covers up the said people's stupidity, weaknesses, ignorance & many other flaws. They are good, they belong to the good family, only good will happen to them, they will always triumph over the bad ones🥱

part of ASOIAF appeal is that in it the good people dont always win. situations test them all...and how they react decides who win & who lose

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And in the same line of logic, I believe the one to sit the iron throne will not necessarily be a character who values morality over power, for somehow I see this becoming less about the fight for the throne and more about the apocalyptic end that will.. put things into perspective.

Enter White Walkers and Dragons, the ultimate battle of Ice and Fire...

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@bold: i agree. most of the times the tag of GOOD PEOPLE covers up the said people's stupidity, weaknesses, ignorance & many other flaws. They are good, they belong to the good family, only good will happen to them, they will always triumph over the bad ones🥱

part of ASOIAF appeal is that in it the good people dont always win. situations test them all...and how they react decides who win & who lose

That's why people like Roose, Ramsay fascinate me, Im not saying I like them, but Im intrigued by them as characters, might add Cersei, Tywin and even Sansa who is growing on me, she's a hard one to figure out unlike all the other good starks. She adapts well to her circumstances thus has survived through till now, its difficult to place her.. she could either grow mad, use powers of manipulation to achieve what she wants either out of revenge for her family or for her own means and desire for the throne.. who knows really.

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Titles of the first three episodes of GoT S5:

Episode 501: "The Wars to Come"

Episode 502: "The House of Black and White"

Episode 503: "High Sparrow"

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Game Of Thrones' Spoilers: Upcoming Death So Shocking Actor Was Surprised

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The Game of Thrones cast and crew have let loose a few spoilers for Season 5, with a lot of new characters coming and at least one male character going out.

Apparently, the actor playing that character was one of the last to know and was quite surprised, as revealed by Jonathan Pryce, who will join Game of Thrones this upcoming season as the High Sparrow. Pryce told the Sydney Morning Herald how he got the jump on the unnamed actor.

"I read the script and some of the others had to, but I know one actor who hadn't read the script and he didn't know what was going to happen to him. He died and he wasn't happy."

While death is a pretty common occurrence on Game of Thrones, fans now know at least one male character will die, and given the actor's surprise, it's fair to assume a pretty major one. To be shocked your character dies on Game of Thrones means you must be feeling pretty confident in your position.

So who could it be? If Pryce read about it in the scripts he reviewed, it's likely a character he crosses paths with this season. But the TV series is straying more and more from the books, so that's not necessarily a good clue.

Spoilers ahead for previous seasons of Game of Thrones if you haven't watched them all.

The Game of Thrones actor who would probably be most surprised he is going to die would have to be Peter Dinklage, given the fan rioting that would ensue. Game of Thrones characters who seem far more endangered include Jaime Lannister (Nikolaj Coster-Waldau), King Tommen Baratheon (Dean-Charles Chapman), Jon Snow (Kit Harington), or Petyr Baelish (Aidan Gillen).

However, the new king meeting his demise wouldn't be too shocking, and the next least likely Game of Thrones character about to die would be Snow, simply because of the tremendous potential of his story: The bas***d son avenging his family. That leaves Jaime or Petyr as the male characters who seem to be at the greatest risk of a surprising major death.

Jaime will likely face suspicion or outright accusations for the escape of Tyrion (Dinklage), so he will likely be in jeopardy when Game of Thrones returns. Even Cersei (Lena Headey) may turn against him given the murder of their father, as she will almost certainly suspect him in Tyrion's escape. One could also argue Jaime has served his purpose on Game of Thrones, siring the line of kings with Cersei and letting the show's favorite character escape a death sentence.

Jaime Lannister seems pretty played out.

Lord Baelish, aka Littlefinger, seems to be just warming up in his lecherous quest to replace his love Lady Stark (Michelle Fairley) with her daughter, Sansa (Sophie Turner), now that she's away from King's Landing.

Winter is Coming was ambitious enough to translate an Italian interview Gillen did with TVZap to get a hint at Game of Thrones Season 5 spoilers.

"What can one say about the evolution of the character of Lord Baelish? This year I can reveal yet less than in the previous ones: at this point of the series the authors are distancing themselves even more from the books and are inventing many things; henceforth in this season they are framing many acts that are not in the novel. Last year [it] did not make a big difference if you revealed something of my character, because it was wholly in the books... instead now all is new. I can say that my character and that of Sansa Stark start on a trip towards The Valley of Arryn to take control of the House of Arryn."

Gillen also revealed that Sansa will turn to the dark side and go gothic in her fashion sense, and that his favorite Game of Thrones character is Arya Stark (Maisie Williams) because he "root[s] for the good." But he does love the spin Lena Headey puts on Cersei, as the character Game of Thrones fans love to hate and hate to love.

Game of Thrones returns April 12 on HBO.

Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1899340/game-of-thrones-spoilers-upcoming-death-so-shocking-actor-was-surprised/#Y3AOFY4KixBITrIt.99

Who do you think he is talking about? The High Sparrow = King's Landing. So maybe Kevan/ Pycelle? Or maybe he is referring to Jon being stabbed? For a cliffhanger it will be pretty good since even the readers aren't 100% sure how that one will turn out. Or maybe Sam like someone said on FB

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