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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: lola610

[quote=_LalithaJanaki_]Wow, these vids are really magical! Thanks for sharing them with me, Loli.⭐️ It's just so sad seeing the suffering of sweet Devaki Ma, but it's also so nice seeing the caring nature of Vasudevji. I'm not trying to sound racist or anything (so please excuse me), but isn't it really wonderful how a Muslim actor played the role of Vasudev so magnificently, and a lot better than many other actors? And the same with Zeb Khan (Nandji of JSK)....you can really tell they lived their roles and felt their characters' pain.



Most welcome hon, glad you enjoyed them... I've watched them literally hundreds of times and I still enjoy them 😍 And totally agree; a big draw for me in these sad scenes is Vasudev's choooo chweet personality that shines through when he's comforting her... I think Shahnawaz is just in a league of his own with these scenes; I've never seen anyone else in B'wood, H'wood, and def not tv who can convey so much emotion so subtly and in so little time... he's more heartbreaking in 1-2 min scenes then some movie guys are in 4 hour long weepies! Mad skills 👏 And I also agree with your other point, I don't think it sounds offensive in any way - for me Shahnawaz in SK and Nazneen as Kunti in BRC's MB both seemed be living their roles, and conveyed so much spirituality in their scenes despite being of a diff religion - an admirable example of India's admirable pluralism, love it love it love it 👏Oh yeah, forgot about Nazneen! She too was so superb as Kunti Ma. Actually, I can't think of anyone else who can do justice to the role of Kunti but her. I've seen some actresses who played her role in such a drab way that we couldn't really sympathize with the choices she made, but Nazneen made us understand the pain Kunti went through, that we can't help but get riled up at anyone who insults Kunti's character and calls her selfish or cold-hearted. There's this old Telugu actress, Anjali, who once played the role of Kunti in the movie "Baala Bharatham" and she too did a superb job, as well as Nazneen actually. Being a movie, the role of Kunti wasn't shown too much, but I loved each and every scene of Anjali's. I'll try to find a vid for you. By the way, I agree with everything you said about Shah Nawaz. Do you know if there were any Muslim actors in Ramayan?

[quote=_LalithaJanaki_]We had a debate in the debate forum once about Mytho shows/Hindu Mythology and people were bad-mouthing Dashrath and Vasudev big time, calling them weaklings and selfish people who sacrificed their children for a mere woman (and these were the so called feminists of the forum). I don't think anything could change the minds of people like them, not even RS, because they are just too stubborn about their beliefs and like to find faults in mytho characters because they detest 'idealism' and don't rest until they find something to blemish these perfect characters. And these were people who saw both RS's shows and BRC's MB, and most of the other mythos that came out.
That makes no sense 😕 These are prob the same people who argue that all men wanted in women those days were baby machines, so when one machine failed they went out and married new ones... so, aren't these divine dads inspiringly progressive for their times? Spec referring to Vasudev, who in doing what he did to save Devaki's life, showed that she - and women in general - deserve love and respect, babies or no babies? Lol bring that debate back, I've got my gloves on, I'm ready 😆Believe me, I'd love to, but it's such a waste of time arguing with those people that it'd only take time away which you would otherwise have spent on this CC.😉 Do you still want the debate? Will try to search for the link...and there's this other one where people started saying the fame of Ramayan was really not that astounding, because it was telecasted at a time when TV was still new, and that if it was telecasted now, it wouldn't become half as popular. Do you want the link of that debate as well or do you think there's an iota of truth in what they said?😕
Agree with you 100%.👏 But many people don't believe in Dharma these days, because society's views has changed drastically from being "live your life for others" to "Me Me Me". It's all about the individual today. Not many can bear to sacrifice their happiness for others, even their family. I'm telling ya Loli, the end of Kali Yug is coming closer and closer, but it's still too far away. It's scary to think how much more evil people will have to get before Lord Kalki comes.
Lol we can thank Freud... but it's all good, there are true gurus out there too look out for the people who have potential... "tu dheeraj mat haar" 😉Agree!👏😆
[quote=_LalithaJanaki_]hey, if it's possible, can you take a pic of your dress only and post it here?😳 I'd love to see it and you can take the pic in a way that nothing personal appears online.😳
lol okie dokes... if I find it one the site first I'll post that... you'll love it 😛Can't wait!
[quote=_LalithaJanaki_]Your Radha Krishna Valentine with Nitish and Reshma is so beautiful! Can you make another one with Pinky and Nitish please?
K, little busy this week but will try!
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Woooow, thanks for this long description of the epi...it's like a full fledged update!😃 Will def see and discuss it without you, sounds like a real eye-catcher.
It's a pity so much good stuff was edited out. Someone should protest.😡[/quote]
Most welcome hon, glad you enjoyed... and yayt can't wait to discuss, I know you'll love it! Of course, it was a thousand times more awesome when the missing scene wasn't missing... heartbreaking Shahnawaz, heartwarming Swapnil moment 😭... anyways you'll love it, for sure! Still haven't gotten around to watching it (you know why)...but I def will!
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: lola610

Wowwww Lali the new sigs are really stunning! Lakhan-kul is too cute, perfect addition to our "vansh series"... but I love love love the new lovey-dovey brown UrmiLakhan one! Coloring, texture, text are all sooooo perfect and pro-looking, it's gorgeous! I want it!!! Thank you so much for your sweet comments Loli!🤗 Am so glad you like it! The brown coloring wasn't really my doing, it just kind of came with the pics.😳 But I'm glad you like the Pushp Vatika text I used. Wanted a little change from the RadheShyam love text we always use for Lakhan Urmi.😉 And you can thank Aish for the new texture...she found this 'mask' option on photofiltre (the software I use) and I've been testing it out. I'm glad you like my first attempt.😳
Along with the vansh slideshow, can we put together one which reps all of RS's perfect couples in romantic siggies? Like, 2 SiyaRam (your feeding one, mine I'll do by the wknd), 2 RadheShyam (one each of our Maharaas ones), 2 UrmiLakhan (this one from you, and my doves one), and 2 VasuDevaki (my moonlight one, you do another by the wknd)? That gives us both a fun "assignment" and hopefully a super sweet result to show off at the end 😍 Whaddaya say, Lallikins?! Great idea Loli! Will def do a VasuDevaki one as soon as I find time. But for the two Maharaas ones, which of yours and which of mines do you want to put?

And btw, here's the KuruVansh... hope you like... and you didn't say, should we do another YaduVansh with a Mandavi as Rohini pic? Woooow, very nice! It looks very Mahabharat-ish!👏👏👏 And the pics are superb, especially Bheem's. He looks like he was surprised with something big!😆 Which scene did you get that pic from? And I love the new YaduVansh one! Are you going to post that here?

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Lola, here's a vid of Anjali as Sita....
it's from the Telugu movie Lava Kusha...when Sita sees Lava Kusha reunited with their father and decides to leave the Earth...
I couldn't find a Balabharatham Kunti vid, so I'm posting this. Will continue looking though.
Watch from 2:35 onward (unless you want to see before too)...Valmiki tells Sita that her wish was fulfilled (of seeing father and sons reunited) and all her duties are fulfilled. Sita tells him that she still has one more duty to fulfill - and that is to prove her chastity so that her sons' future is secured. Lakshman tells her that she should come back to Ayodhya and ascend the throne as its queen again, but Sita says she has no wish to be queen anymore, because a more important duty calls her. She then calls Mother Earth and leaves. Rama then crowns Lava and Kusha as Kings and leaves Earth also (this is just a speedy version of what happens since it is a movie).
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEJoky8gGgc&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]
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Posted: 15 years ago
Lola, I found a Bala Bharatam vid:
Watch from 17:15 - 21:50; it happens in the earlier part of Mahabharat when Pandu was still King and Anjali and Jayaprada (as Kunti and Madri) were his Queens. They go to a drama done by a group of Nishadas for entertainment, where they meet Adiratha, Radha, and Karna (who is about two years old). Kunti wants to hold Karna, because she recognizes him as her son (due to his Kavach and Kundal), but for some reason, he won't come to her though he goes readily to Pandu. The need to hold him grows stronger and she forcefully takes him into her arms. He starts crying and Radha gets angry. She replies rudely and takes Karna back into her arms, leaving for home with Adiratha. Kunti secretly follows them to their tent and is shocked by the hostile words Radha speaks to Adiratha about how one who is not a mother can never understand another woman's pain when she hears her child crying, even if that woman is a queen. Kunti then remembers the memory of how Karna was born to her (through a 30 second song) and mourns her fate.
This is a purely fictional account of course, but it's emotional. Tell me what you think.😳
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Posted: 15 years ago

CONGRATS GUYS FOR HITTING 100 PAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOW, I NEVER IMAGINED WE'D COMPLETE 100 PAGES IN SO FEW MONTHS, BUT IT'S HARDLY BELIEVEABLE THAT ONLY 50 MORE PAGES TO GO BEFORE OPENING CC #2!

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Loli, here's the VasuDevaki siggie I was supposed to make as my homework for this week. :) I knew I wouldn't have time later on, so I'm posting it now.

I used a different kind of texture.....does it look bad? And I tried to colorize it green...did it fit? Please tell me honestly. I can redo it if you want.😳
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Oh yeah, forgot about Nazneen! She too was so superb as Kunti Ma. Actually, I can't think of anyone else who can do justice to the role of Kunti but her. I've seen some actresses who played her role in such a drab way that we couldn't really sympathize with the choices she made, but Nazneen made us understand the pain Kunti went through, that we can't help but get riled up at anyone who insults Kunti's character and calls her selfish or cold-hearted. There's this old Telugu actress, Anjali, who once played the role of Kunti in the movie "Baala Bharatham" and she too did a superb job, as well as Nazneen actually. Being a movie, the role of Kunti wasn't shown too much, but I loved each and every scene of Anjali's. I'll try to find a vid for you. By the way, I agree with everything you said about Shah Nawaz. Do you know if there were any Muslim actors in Ramayan?

True, Nazneen brought out Kunti's helplessness in her questionable moments so well... and she excelled in the "tough" stuff too, like the one or two instances in which she scolds her sons... best of all are her vulnerable moments with Nitish just before and during the war 😭 like ShahNawaz, she was understated and classy about the heavy stuff so it felt more real than the other theatrical, campy portrayals. No banging their heads against walls and all, thank God, though times did get that bad 👏

Checked out the clips, thanks for them🤗 they're both so beautiful! Will comment on them separately, but for now I'll say I def agree about Anjali! What a heartbreaking scene! RS's Kunti was pretty good as well; she didn't have as many power-moments, cuz she was portrayed as a Krishna devotee above all of her other roles in life, which makes sense because that's how she was characterized in the Bhagavatam... anyways, the actress did a good job with that angle, I think, when you see the Swapnil-Vidur clip you might agree... there's a convo between her and Akrur in the very beginning, if not the previous vid.

As far as non-Hindus in Ramayan, our vaanar crush Angad was played by Bashir - and back to BRC, his prodigy of a dialogue writer was Muslim too!!! And a Sanskrit PhD 👏

Believe me, I'd love to, but it's such a waste of time arguing with those people that it'd only take time away which you would otherwise have spent on this CC.😳 Do you still want the debate? Will try to search for the link...and there's this other one where people started saying the fame of Ramayan was really not that astounding, because it was telecasted at a time when TV was still new, and that if it was telecasted now, it wouldn't become half as popular. Do you want the link of that debate as well or do you think there's an iota of truth in what they said?😕

Lol it's ok, I'll do without 😉 thanks to ShahNawaz, I heart Vasudev more than enough to make up for all the people who don't 😆 Any thoughts though, on the feminist argument I made on the pro- side? Would it fly?

The other debate doesn't make sense at all cuz it wouldn't explain why our mytho trinity from 20 yrs ago, the first ones ever made, are in their zillionth round of syndication on 4-5 different channels right now, as opposed to all the posers made in between that were never ever shown again. There was definitely something else about them, due to which as soon as they end a round of reruns on one channel, another picks them up... they're immortal 😍

Thank you so much for your sweet comments Loli! 🤗 Am so glad you like it! The brown coloring wasn't really my doing, it just kind of came with the pics. But I'm glad you like the Pushp Vatika text I used. Wanted a little change from the RadheShyam love text we always use for Lakhan Urmi. And you can thank Aish for the new texture...she found this 'mask' option on photofiltre (the software I use) and I've been testing it out. I'm glad you like my first attempt.

Most welcome Lallikins, it was a super successful experiment, can't wait for more like it! Do thank Aish for me 😉 And unlikely text sources are my fav, me who uses random bolly lyrics on mytho siggies... loved it!

Great idea Loli! Will def do a VasuDevaki one as soon as I find time. But for the two Maharaas ones, which of yours and which of mines do you want to put?

Thanks Lali! Your "ta thaiya" one, my "taaron mein nartan"... or should we assign each other new RadheShyam romantic ones 😉

Woooow, very nice! It looks very Mahabharat-ish!👏👏👏 And the pics are superb, especially Bheem's. He looks like he was surprised with something big!😆 Which scene did you get that pic from? And I love the new YaduVansh one! Are you going to post that here?

Awww thanks hon! So happy you liked! It's actually a palace in Mysore for the background this time. Lol the Bheem pic is from the brothers' discussion before leaving for Varnaavat, Bheem is responding to one of Sahadev's zingers about his eating habits 😆 But yay thanks for liking YaduVansh II 🤗 forgot to post here, will do now. [/quote]

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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: _LalithaJanaki_

Lola, I found a Bala Bharatam vid:

Watch from 17:15 - 21:50; it happens in the earlier part of Mahabharat when Pandu was still King and Anjali and Jayaprada (as Kunti and Madri) were his Queens. They go to a drama done by a group of Nishadas for entertainment, where they meet Adiratha, Radha, and Karna (who is about two years old). Kunti wants to hold Karna, because she recognizes him as her son (due to his Kavach and Kundal), but for some reason, he won't come to her though he goes readily to Pandu. The need to hold him grows stronger and she forcefully takes him into her arms. He starts crying and Radha gets angry. She replies rudely and takes Karna back into her arms, leaving for home with Adiratha. Kunti secretly follows them to their tent and is shocked by the hostile words Radha speaks to Adiratha about how one who is not a mother can never understand another woman's pain when she hears her child crying, even if that woman is a queen. Kunti then remembers the memory of how Karna was born to her (through a 30 second song) and mourns her fate.
This is a purely fictional account of course, but it's emotional. Tell me what you think.😳



Wowww thanks for this clip Lali, it's heartbreaking yet beautiful... I really love it 🤗 This is the kind of fictionalization of the epics that I feel is not only acceptable, but encouraged... it enhances our understanding of the character rather than distorting it... if only today's mytho-makes could come up with scenarios like this rather than the crap they dream up 😡 The whole situation is realy beautifully written (I even love the Nishads' peppy song before she notices Karna 😆 what's it called and what does it mean?)... and Anjali's performance is so graceful and tragic 😭 She made a beatiful Sita too, but I'm guessing this came after cuz she seems to have gotten more subtle and understated - no they're not my word of the day words, just my favorite kind of acting 😆 The desperation when baby Karn doesn't come to her, the devastation at the end of the flashback, the attempt to hold herself together when Pandu walks in... to convey so much emotion so well, clearly but not beating us over the head with it, and in so little time... it is just amazing 👏 Thanks for sharing Lali 🤗
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: _LalithaJanaki_

Here's a LakhanUrmi Vid Sig:

WOW !!!! very romantic Lakshman & Urmila siggy😳😳
Urmila has got that billion dollar smile 😃😳
great siggy lalitha!!!👏⭐️
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: lola610


Here's a quick creation with our Rukminiji from SK and MB's Krishna Bhagwan... whaddaya think, guys?

wow!!!! the best KRISHNA & RUKMINI pair i hv ever seen⭐️
very charming pair 😳😳
thanks lola !!!⭐️

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