The slow death of an amazing character - Swayam - Page 3

Originally posted by: Shan_swayam

Wats wrong if Swayam can't take insults anymore y is he expected to understand ol da tym isn't he allowed for once to think of himself, I noe dat line cud hav been easily avoided n I dint lyk it either bt srsly hw mch do we expect him to take, he's just tired of running behind Sharon ol da tym n he has lost ol hope dis tym coz of da same thing happening again n again n I don't fell he's being egoistic dats Sharon's department, he's just protectin himself frm being hurt by being rude lyk sharon does n evryone does n it's pretty normal to behave lyk da way he is in a situation lyk dis n he's just tryin to show Sharon dats he's nt da same Swayam who wud take her insults quitley dats it n I actually lyk it coz I personally hated it wen Swayam used to take Sharon's insults in da name of love so ya I'm kinda ok wid dis Swayam

i guess we just have differing opinions.But that's ok, everyone's entitled to their own view :)

Originally posted by: tannuluv

awesome post neeti but sorry to say i wont agree with you. swayam faced a lot of thing from 3 year each and every time his trust broken by his loved one, he get slapped from his loved one, he get lot hurt for loving someone now he scared just scared to loose himself , scared to get hurt more, so right now he just showing others that he is changed to make shore they wont try to hurt him again. But he some where making a mistake by trying all this with his most loved person sharon forgetting the fact she also loved him she may get hurt. Yes thats the mistake but if sharon can make so many mistake why cant once swayam make one so lets wait and see how cvs going to present not so perfect lover boy swayam shikawath...

I completely understand ur POV :) I guess my disappointment is more because of this extra stretching of one fight

<font color="#003333">Problem is that you all are viewing this
incident as a single sole event. My advice watch this incident keeping
in mind everything that transpired between Swayam and Sharon from that
slap incident. you will find it diffrent. I am not defending Swayam's
dialogue but nither I am blaming him for anything.

</font><font color="#003333">After the slap incident and at that time
Sharon should have been there instead of her bursting on him too. Both
were hurt that time but it was Swayam who needed Sharon more as his support
then. Thats what relationship is about but Sharon being hurt herself
didn't realized that.Even then Swayam went their to say sorry. but still
their fight escalated. This entire track is based on that. One alone
should not make compromise in a relationship again and again. Otherwise
it will make relationship one sided. </font>




Er no.I developed this opinion keeping in mind the numerous episodes relating to this track.Honestly my resentment stems frm the fact that this fight has been endlessly stretched n seems to have no end. And like I mentioned earlier, I have absolutely no sympathy for Sharon.HER behaviour is not justified.All I wanna say is that Swayam's sudden change in behaviour is hard to digest n very surprisibg.Plus seeming them like this doesnt make a fan feel good or motivated to keep watching the show

Originally posted by: tannu_swayam

I don agree here Neeti. This is not about how he could say those but WHY dis he say those things? Swayam had been skeptical wen he went into the relationship with Sharon. He was afraid that he would be hurt. After all that happened in the past 2years before that this is expected. And on the slap incident his trust was broken. Kis liye Sharon ne kiya, kis halat mein kiya kyun kiya was not the questions in his mind that time. He completely acted on instinct and thought about his feelings for the first time that his emotions were once again made public. That was it for him. Then when he should been handled nycly in that delicate situation Sharon came to his house and bombarded him and blamed him for the same things that his Best Friend accused him off. He still went to her nd said sorry. But what happend after that Sharon aagain dished him out. And that was the saturation point for him. He wl no longer show his weakness. And wants Sharon to come for him. Isn't that justified after all that happened. He is expecting something from her. And instead of Swayam saying to her that he loves her shouldn't Sharon atleast now understand that he loves her. And that she should go after him and bring him back. Swayam will be rough and rude till Sharon continues like this. The moment she tells him to come back. He wud go to her. He is just waiting for that. And given all that happened. He should be made feel special as the way he has made Sharon feel all this while.

I respect ur differing POV Uzma :) But I really dont think Swayam's rude behavior is gonna change Sharon's thinking anytime soon.All it's doing is confusing n makibg her distance herself more while trying to get his attention.And it's not something I want to see.Which is why the disappointment :)

Originally posted by: tannu_swayam

I don agree here Neeti. This is not about how he could say those but WHY dis he say those things? Swayam had been skeptical wen he went into the relationship with Sharon. He was afraid that he would be hurt. After all that happened in the past 2years before that this is expected. And on the slap incident his trust was broken. Kis liye Sharon ne kiya, kis halat mein kiya kyun kiya was not the questions in his mind that time. He completely acted on instinct and thought about his feelings for the first time that his emotions were once again made public. That was it for him. Then when he should been handled nycly in that delicate situation Sharon came to his house and bombarded him and blamed him for the same things that his Best Friend accused him off. He still went to her nd said sorry. But what happend after that Sharon aagain dished him out. And that was the saturation point for him. He wl no longer show his weakness. And wants Sharon to come for him. Isn't that justified after all that happened. He is expecting something from her. And instead of Swayam saying to her that he loves her shouldn't Sharon atleast now understand that he loves her. And that she should go after him and bring him back. Swayam will be rough and rude till Sharon continues like this. The moment she tells him to come back. He wud go to her. He is just waiting for that. And given all that happened. He should be made feel special as the way he has made Sharon feel all this while.

Originally posted by: marauder

And about Swayam dying a slow death - errmm NO. That guy is still the same. Neither has he changed nor he is going to. But just that instead of him reaching out for Sharon everytime he is expecting her to reach out to him. And I don't think its unfair demand in any sense. After all as Swayam said a relationship need contribution from both. And about not taking straightly - well something is to be realized by yourself. It can't be handed over to you.

Originally posted by: like.a.boss

@Red : Umm being Swayam's girlfriend, she too expected Swayam to clarify things between them first. Ask her what did happen, what made her share her relationship problems with her bestfriend. There was a sequence ''Tanhaayee'' hope you remember that. Sharon's monologue was shown over there and I felt she is totally right at her place. Instead of making thinks clear, what he did? Left everything and went somewhere else, ignored her calls. I hope you remember Sharon too searched for him all the night to make things better. That was the thing which made Sharon to yell at him instead of behaving calmly with him.
That I explained in my post only. At that moment Swayam acted on instinct. Swayam was again hurt and that his feelings are made public. Thats all he understood. It ws Sharon's job to calm him down make him understand. Bout the Tanhaaye night I completely didn't understand how could she question Swayam's commitment there. The whole scene wud have perfect minus that dialogue. And that dialogue changed the scene. At that moment instead of thinking that how much Swayam is hurt she thought why didn't he think of why did that. Was he in any state to think bout those? No. She should have thought about Swayam at that time not herself.
@Blue : Yes I really appreciate it. He atleast realized that what he said Sharon was so not acceptable. Using words like 'toyboy' was too bad.
Again I would repeat instead of talking with him calmly aate hi she started shouting at him. The first line I lykd where she was angry on him on disappearing lyk that but the nxt she said "Rey ne sahi kaha U r selfish". He was already so hurt by the incident. His best friend accussed him of all those horrible things. And his GF then agreed to it. How cud he keep his cool still then. Bas he said whatevr came to his mind. Ppl do say many things wen they are angry. And Swayam acted completely like a normal human being hu is angry and hurt.
@Green : Honestly, I too want that. But don't you think what Swayam is making things worse between em ?? Idk I feel that way because after facing such kinda behavior, Sharon is confused whether Swayam wants her anymore or not. I remember, she is telling her bestfriend once ''ab toh mujhe ye v nhi pata woh aana chahta hai v ya nhi''. His behavior is making things more worse.
If he keeps on doing like this then only Sharon might understand his worth in her life. He is expecting sumthng. Whats wrong in thay? If he bends again that wud completely take away his self respect. As I said in my post. He shud b also given bak the same thng that gives Sharon. Relationship occurs wit mutual work. Ek tarfa chize kaise chalegi.

My reply in bold.

Originally posted by: -Neeti-

I respect ur differing POV Uzma :) But I really dont think Swayam's rude behavior is gonna change Sharon's thinking anytime soon.All it's doing is confusing n makibg her distance herself more while trying to get his attention.And it's not something I want to see.Which is why the disappointment :)

Neeti thats what I feel the track is bout. Sharon has to understand or have a clarity in terms of her feelings for Swayam. She is trying the old Sharon way. But this is not like old times. She has to find a new way. Attention se bhi zyada here she has to understand that she wants his love more than anything. And that she has to make a move to get it bak. She just has to take that one step.

i think, swayam has not changed. everytime he takes d 1st step. issbar v liya. bt i think he is right in saying dat relationship ek person se nhi chalta. adjust dono ko krna parta hai.. sharon is a person who nvr show her original self. she is dying bt she deny dat. on d other hand swayam ki position v same hai. sharon's ego & her haq on swayam make her think dat swayam wl manage everything. bt swayam is nt going to take initial dis time.