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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Historylover

Hello everyone!

I have been reading this forum since the starting of d show. i hav bcum a member of this forum just for this show. I felt gud to see so many intelligent people here and history lovers like me. Well, i thought of elaborating a few things about CGM's mecedonian wife. I read a book by Jay Shankar Prasad based on CGM & Chanakya. I think he is such a big name in the field of literature so he can't be wrong. Well, here are some facts according to that book:
  1. Helen/Carnellia/Roseanne ( she had many names just like Chanakya), was a very lovely and very intelligent Greek girl. She was very much in love with India and its culture. She used to stay in Greek shivir with his father selucus and study sanskrit, hindi, grammer, Indian classical music, history, geography, ramayan etc. this shows that she had no problem in India and its culture.
  2. CGM and her love was a love at first sight. They met before he killed Dhanand and became King of Magadh.
  3. Their marriage alliance was a plan of Chanakya as ek panth do kaaj. Bcoz, CGM got the love of his life with this alliance as well as many parts of Ariana and Kandhar as a marriage gift by Selukus.
  4. When he married Helen he was of the age b/w 18-20 not more than that. That was the last war of his life and later he ruled India for 16-20 yrs and died at the age of 42.
  5. I think he married Durdhara quite later as he had no successor for the throne. And, there was no description of Durdhara by Jay Shankar prasad till Cgm's war with Seleucus. That book ended on CGM and Helen's marriage, so I am quite confused on Durdhara. So, this is it. But, I hope that Sagar's show a good love story of these two characters which is still unknown to world.😊




Thanks 4 d info dear 😊😊😊😊😊😊 welcome to CGM 4um👏👏👏👏👏
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: rinku4u




Thanks 4 d info dear 😊 welcome to CGM 4um👏


My pleasure sweety 😃 thanks for welcoming me to this forum

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Posted: 14 years ago
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thanks history lover for sharing d info i love to read dis
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Posted: 14 years ago
#14
😉

Originally posted by: _Vrish_

Parina

Thanks. Was it you or someone else who once mentioned that there is a history forum on I-F? B'cos things like the Mythological forum, History forum ain't listed on the front page

Historylover

Thanks for this great info. Glad to know that she was not just a booty of war, but actually loved CGM and was familiar w/ his cultural environment.

One question - did she have any children from CGM? CGM became a Jain @ 38 (he was one for the last 4 years of his life after he abdicated) and so regardless of when they married, they could have had children.

I never knew that CGM had another wife named Duradhara, and I do hope that Chanakya didn't encourage him to have a harem just to shore up multiple alliances. But I was always under the impression that Bindusara was the offspring of CGM and Helen


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Posted: 14 years ago
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i am waiting for a good love story of cgm's life..it may be of cgm and dhadhara or cgm and helen...and there is a possibility of cgm and helen's meeting and love at first sight before the war with dhanananda...bcoz cgm met alexandar and selukas before the war..so its quiet possible..and i will be more happy helen's name was being changed as dhadhara to give an indian touch...but in all the history books the mention of the marriage is on the 304 b.c.....and cgm's death was on 300 b.c....so this is proved that greek princess was not bindusara's mother..but don't worry sagar's art can change all the history ..so let's get ready for a hilarious love story😳
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Thanks for revealing this possibility - about Duradhara actually being none other than Helen. The thing about Chanakya was that he was India's ancient Machiaveli, so such a thing wouldn't be beyond him. But you are right - rulers did have matrimonial alliances, sometimes w/ conditions that the offspring of a particular marriage succeed to the throne.

Usually, princesses did have swayamvars, and they knew whether they ruler they would embrace already had wives or not, although in some cases, like defeat in battle, they may have involuntarily been given in marriage. But while kings did have that privilege, it was purely for political reasons, while in some cases, kings did give their daughters in marriage to other powerful or wealthy rulers for strategic advantages.

Selucus did leave India and focus on his past conquests in Egypt & Syria, so guess the presents he got from Chandragupta served him well.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Historylover

Hello everyone!

I have been reading this forum since the starting of d show. i hav bcum a member of this forum just for this show. I felt gud to see so many intelligent people here and history lovers like me. Well, i thought of elaborating a few things about CGM's mecedonian wife. I read a book by Jay Shankar Prasad based on CGM & Chanakya. I think he is such a big name in the field of literature so he can't be wrong. Well, here are some facts according to that book:
  1. Helen/Carnellia/Roseanne ( she had many names just like Chanakya), was a very lovely and very intelligent Greek girl. She was very much in love with India and its culture. She used to stay in Greek shivir with his father selucus and study sanskrit, hindi, grammer, Indian classical music, history, geography, ramayan etc. this shows that she had no problem in India and its culture.
  2. CGM and her love was a love at first sight. They met before he killed Dhanand and became King of Magadh.
  3. Their marriage alliance was a plan of Chanakya as ek panth do kaaj. Bcoz, CGM got the love of his life with this alliance as well as many parts of Ariana and Kandhar as a marriage gift by Selukus.
  4. When he married Helen he was of the age b/w 18-20 not more than that. That was the last war of his life and later he ruled India for 16-20 yrs and died at the age of 42.
  5. I think he married Durdhara quite later as he had no successor for the throne. And, there was no description of Durdhara by Jay Shankar prasad till Cgm's war with Seleucus. That book ended on CGM and Helen's marriage, so I am quite confused on Durdhara. So, this is it. But, I hope that Sagar's show a good love story of these two characters which is still unknown to world.😊


thanx 4 dis gr8 piece of info & welcum 2 IF!!⭐️⭐️
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@ Polly
My pleasure.....Thanks for the ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ starry welcome.😊
Edited by Historylover - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Thnx History lover for this wonderful data😊

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