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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: myviewprem


According to me the biggest problem is this

Whom does anyone love most in life - one who help him, care for him done something for him in need

Dhurudhara cared for him all life fed him, married him, gave him her dads money to win war but chandra calls her friend and does not take care of her in crucial times like poisoning or death bed

Helena helped him with greek army to win wars, when he failed and would give up counselled him gave him strength took care of kingdom when required etcbut chandra treats her very indifferently

But whom does chandra love? Nandiniii??(or even his family love her like moora, dadi, brother etc) But why? What did she do for him till date? She wanted to kill him in battle field, put poison in mehendi, cursed and abused him, wanted to hit knife when sleeping etc I do not understand till now why chandra love nandini?? Other than fact that she is his wife and beautiful to look at etc she has not done anything much for him reall y compared to dhurudhara and helena. But chandra considers dhurudhara friend and helena as liability and avoids both(even in death bed he ran off with nandii leaving dhurudhara alone).

Taking care of bindusar etc to be honest in those times maids took care of princes rather than queens(even if mother was alive), anyways at age of 5 all princes went to gukul and returned only at age 15-18 then away from mom-dad. As per history bindusar was taken care of by his dai ma whom he considered as mother and listened to her words(not any step moms). and teaching weapons training chankya and chandra are more competent to teach bindusar than nandini. So there is no real strong reason for this mad love of chandra to nandini. Or nandini loving chandra her fathers killer too. Now which daughter shall truly love her fathers killer practically? None okkk to survive in chandras palace superficially they may act as if they love buttt in reality no girl shall love her fathers killer no matter how bad daddy dearest was to others. This love is not convincing.

Second issue is chandra ating like mad in love, he is emperor not majnu or romeo. He ignore his kids care and other wives or responsibility in nandini love. Which emperor or commoner do that? Even shah jahan who loved mumtaz(from childhood) came out of mourning in a year or two time. You cannot act like devdas and majnu when you have small kids to take care a kingdom to look after etc. Somewhere bindusar anger is correct, chandra never loved his mom or his children even alice his daughter, a father never ignore a daughter even if he do not care for sons. Only bindu is brave to tell that on chandras face.





Nandini is not even real character to begin with. 😆 Just like you I still don't know why Chandra loves Nandini so much.

What I really hate the most is that the producers make historical shows for love stories. If it's about telling kings and queens love stories then why not create their own kings and queens instead of ruining the real kings and queens image. Just like they created Nandini they should have created another character opposite her instead of CGM. Isn't it an insult to see the great CGM being the Majnu ?

And what I also hate is that we still watch them because we love historical shows. 😆

I totally agree with you ? Nandini didn't kill Durdhara but still Bindu has many reasons to hate her. The way the shows kings treat their queens no wonder they turn out evils later. I mean which woman can see her husband treating another queen as queen and her as good for nothing ?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: luxmi_1029


All of what you said is so true. The CVs did poorly in sculpting Chandra's character for the sake of "love". More than Nandini it was Durdhara that was my favourite when I watched the older episodes. Nandini had physical strength but something was missing than. With Dharma's presence and seeing her as her mother I have come to like her more, but even than I get scared that she will forsake her daughter's love for the sake of Chandra and Bindusar 😭

I just hope the Cvs handle Dharma-Bindusar's story with better care. Dharma has been shown to not have any interest in Bindusar, and even went as for as warning charumati of him because of his poor manner towards women. She is still under the pretense that Bindusar was the one who kidnapped and tried to misbehave with her friend. Bindusar too has been shown to be someone who doesn't get swayed by external appearance and needs something more of a substantial reason for us to believe that he is in love with Dharma. I personally do not want ekta's cheap scenes like they did with Chandra and nandini and even tried with Bindusar and Dharma where the woman fall over the man and they are lost in their eyes. Scenes like that just don't make sense and I don't believe they contribute to the content in anyway. The writers need to set a better foundation for Dharma and Bindusar, and hopefully not make Charumati a Helena 2.0, which would be horrible especially since they've made her out to be a really good friend to Bindusar.



Dhama Bindusar story is more complex

Dharma is a commoner and Bindusar a prince their way of upbringing completely different

They will make charumati another Ruqaiah a posessive friend and after titles she wants mukhya maharani title but last bindu gives it to dharma

But the story writer cannot write an intelligent story so cheap scenes will be there where bindu/charumati together insult charumati initially till bindu falls for her (same Ruqaiah-jalal-jodha story repeat)


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: MuguetDScorpion


Nandini is not even real character to begin with. 😆 Just like you I still don't know why Chandra loves Nandini so much.

What I really hate the most is that the producers make historical shows for love stories. If it's about telling kings and queens love stories then why not create their own kings and queens instead of ruining the real kings and queens image. Just like they created Nandini they should have created another character opposite her instead of CGM. Isn't it an insult to see the great CGM being the Majnu ?

And what I also hate is that we still watch them because we love historical shows. 😆

I totally agree with you ? Nandini didn't kill Durdhara but still Bindu has many reasons to hate her. The way the shows kings treat their queens no wonder they turn out evils later. I mean which woman can see her husband treating another queen as queen and her as good for nothing ?


History is now totally lost in this serial

CGM and Bindusar etc character names are just used to attract audience

Bindusar has reasons to hate both chadra and nandini in this serial apart from helenas false letter

Which kid will accept that his father ran off with nandini his lover when his mom was on death bed and he was in her womb?? Bindu does not know this still but when he knows it shall be another dragger in his heart

Simillarly which kid can accept his dad only love one wife over his mother?? Can anyone respect their father if he has never loved his mother or treated her badly. Bindu anger in this matter was very very justified when he came with his mom photo to do shrad on his marriage day.

Further now Bindu considers helena as mother but chandra never has good relation with her too, all this impacts a small childs mind a lot especially in teenage years(13-21 years)

His anger to nandini not only is because he believes she killed his mom but also because he thinks because of her his dad never treated his mom nicely even on death bed and also he is not caring for him and his siblings alice and adonis etc. When has chandra in last 10-12 years ever done shrad for dhurudhara or given her any respect as the next emperors mother? Is it enough to say dhurudhra was my best friend??? What best friend?? A best friend is with you in your pain? Chandra was not there for Dhurudhara even on death bed?? Helena had to go and get him and nandini back from their mini honeymoon of sorts back to dhurudhara. Chandra never been a good husband to dhurudhara or helena or good taher for his kids and now hes giving speeches to convince them that he cares for them once nandini returned.

I doubt bindu ever respect chandra even after truth is revealed, chandra not covered himself in any glory as a father or a husband



Edited by myviewprem - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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He would've kicked Helena if she was like this for REAL but he loved her. Umm, this is an Ekta Kapoor show and she loves toxic relationships. She loves butchering history calling it her own take. 🤢
I feel really bad for the real Helena and Chandragupt who for the least had a brain. This Chandra is not ideal, not even for romance. I appreciate Rajat for putting up with such a pathetic character with no wisdom and self respect.

Coming to Dharma 2.0 😆 I wonder how the f**k can she be an exact replica of Nandini's thoughts!? If it was that way why wasn't Nandini her mother's replica who had infedility issues LOL!?

The writer are officially brain dead I guess😕 Specially the bride exchange and stuff. Still keeping up with this show for the cast and my mom ofcourse😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: BreezyBoo

He would've kicked Helena if she was like this for REAL but he loved her. Umm, this is an Ekta Kapoor show and she loves toxic relationships. She loves butchering history calling it her own take. 🤢

I feel really bad for the real Helena and Chandragupt who for the least had a brain. This Chandra is not ideal, not even for romance. I appreciate Rajat for putting up with such a pathetic character with no wisdom and self respect.

Coming to Dharma 2.0 😆 I wonder how the f**k can she be an exact replica of Nandini's thoughts!? If it was that way why wasn't Nandini her mother's replica who had infedility issues LOL!?

The writer are officially brain dead I guess😕 Specially the bride exchange and stuff. Still keeping up with this show for the cast and my mom ofcourse😆

@bold exactly, infact she was the most loved, sadly only for few years as cgm became a monk.
I just hope when years later another show is made on cgm no one should remember this crap.
Real cgm, mahapadmanand and even dhananda deserve much better than this piece of garbage. This serial equally insulted cgm, Bindu, mahapadmanand and dhananda.
Edited by Roxelana - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: myviewprem


History is now totally lost in this serial

CGM and Bindusar etc character names are just used to attract audience

Bindusar has reasons to hate both chadra and nandini in this serial apart from helenas false letter

Which kid will accept that his father ran off with nandini his lover when his mom was on death bed and he was in her womb?? Bindu does not know this still but when he knows it shall be another dragger in his heart

Simillarly which kid can accept his dad only love one wife over his mother?? Can anyone respect their father if he has never loved his mother or treated her badly. Bindu anger in this matter was very very justified when he came with his mom photo to do shrad on his marriage day.

Further now Bindu considers helena as mother but chandra never has good relation with her too, all this impacts a small childs mind a lot especially in teenage years(13-21 years)

His anger to nandini not only is because he believes she killed his mom but also because he thinks because of her his dad never treated his mom nicely even on death bed and also he is not caring for him and his siblings alice and adonis etc. When has chandra in last 10-12 years ever done shrad for dhurudhara or given her any respect as the next emperors mother? Is it enough to say dhurudhra was my best friend??? What best friend?? A best friend is with you in your pain? Chandra was not there for Dhurudhara even on death bed?? Helena had to go and get him and nandini back from their mini honeymoon of sorts back to dhurudhara. Chandra never been a good husband to dhurudhara or helena or good taher for his kids and now hes giving speeches to convince them that he cares for them once nandini returned.

I doubt bindu ever respect chandra even after truth is revealed, chandra not covered himself in any glory as a father or a husband




Just imagine their unborn baby is alive and returns to them. I am sure she or he will get special treatment by CGM because he had her or him with Nandini. This can definitely piss Bindu off. And he should be.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: MuguetDScorpion


Just imagine their unborn baby is alive and returns to them. I am sure she or he will get special treatment by CGM because he had her or him with Nandini. This can definitely piss Bindu off. And he should be.


If Bindu still thinks nandini killed his mom he shall be angry at kid

But if bindu knows truth may be he will treat kid lovingly like he does to alice and adonis

By now everyones angry with CGM - Moora, helena, bindu, alice only adonis seems okk with afther and chankya too may get angry later

What sort of love is this where even citizens are ignored??? a lopsided biased love actually where everyone else ignored in love.


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: myviewprem


If Bindu still thinks nandini killed his mom he shall be angry at kid

But if bindu knows truth may be he will treat kid lovingly like he does to alice and adonis

By now everyones angry with CGM - Moora, helena, bindu, alice only adonis seems okk with afther and chankya too may get angry later

What sort of love is this where even citizens are ignored??? a lopsided biased love actually where everyone else ignored in love.



Alice is neutral to CGM. Sometimes even Adonis give angry look at him. 😆

Of course they will end with truth triumphing and Bindu Nandini reunion. He will even accept his brother or sister if there is any. He will become the mahan. 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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The show is a comedy circus...😆...The basic foundation of the show is not right. ...I mean if you want to show a love story...why connect a historical character with a fictional one... That's where the problem is...😡
For God's sake CGM ie Chandra Gupta Maurya is shown as a majnu..😆.He is The Founder of Mauryan Empire...and his son Bindusar is shown as a bewda ...😆...And here they are trying to show an epic love story of Chandra (the emperor) and Nandini(a fictional character)... There would never have been a problem if the characters were PURELY fictional or purely historical...There is a mismatch .here...Acharya Chanakya would have thrown out CGM and the entire Mauryan clan would have been on road if he had behaved like this...😆...

CGM loves Nandini only...What about Helena ???? 2 bacche kaha se aaye ...😆
And neglecting your duties and behaving lie a Devdas...Neglecting janta for your love...Which emperor does that ??? Is that we expect from the CGM...????

Relations ka mazaak bana ke rakh diya hai...Emperor just thinks about his wife ...neglects all other work...Neglects his son..baaki sab jaye bhaad me...😆...I will only do jaap of my wife... Dont care what my son feels ...how my citizens are living...

.And one wife...is busy in plotting and scheming...She shld have been used in present era against our enemies...bina hatyar ke barbaad kar degi 😆...Acharya hai...Pata nahi kaha hai...😆...Aisi situation me yuvraj to aisa hi niklega na,...😆

When wife returns ...the emperor is busy in romancing his wife...Nothing else...😆




The starting of the show itself was vague...

And what is shown here is absolute non sense.Same old scenes...I would say the show is just a copy paste of all old shows...where hero heroine were at loggerheads .they they turn Epic ...divine ...magical lovers..😆...

.Its a Comedy Circus...I repeat...😆...Then question arises why I am watching...Simple ...because of leap ..I love the new generation ...They are a treat to watch...That's what catch my interest...😆...

In the quest for TRP , we get non sense...stuff...


RIP CGM...And Thank God...Mauryan clan is not there...😉😆
Note:
Please differentiate between actors and Characters


Edited by Courageous_Leo - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Courageous_Leo

The show is a comedy circus...😆...The basic foundation of the show is not right. ...I mean if you want to show a love story...why connect a historical character with a fictional one... That's where the problem is...😡
For God's sake CGM ie Chandra Gupta Maurya is shown as a majnu..😆.He is The Founder of Mauryan Empire...and his son Bindusar is shown as a bewda ...😆...And here they are trying to show an epic love story of Chandra (the emperor) and Nandini(a fictional character)... There would never have been a problem if the characters were PURELY fictional or purely historical...There is a mismatch .here...Acharya Chanakya would have thrown out CGM and the entire Mauryan clan would have been on road if he had behaved like this...😆...

CGM loves Nandini only...What about Helena ???? 2 bacche kaha se aaye ...😆
And neglecting your duties and behaving lie a Devdas...Neglecting janta for your love...Which emperor does that ??? Is that we expect from the CGM...????

Relations ka mazaak bana ke rakh diya hai...Emperor just thinks about his wife ...neglects all other work...Neglects his son..baaki sab jaye bhaad me...😆...I will only do jaap of my wife... Dont care what my son feels ...how my citizens are living...

.And one wife...is busy in plotting and scheming...She shld have been used in present era against our enemies...bina hatyar ke barbaad kar degi 😆...Acharya hai...Pata nahi kaha hai...😆...Aisi situation me yuvraj to aisa hi niklega na,...😆

When wife returns ...the emperor is busy in romancing his wife...Nothing else...😆




The starting of the show itself was vague...

And what is shown here is absolute non sense.Same old scenes...I would say the show is just a copy paste of all old shows...where hero heroine were at loggerheads .they they turn Epic ...divine ...magical lovers..😆...

.Its a Comedy Circus...I repeat...😆...Then question arises why I am watching...Simple ...because of leap ..I love the new generation ...They are a treat to watch...That's what catch my interest...😆...

In the quest for TRP , we get non sense...stuff...


RIP CGM...And Thank God...Mauryan clan is not there...😉😆
Note:
Please differentiate between actors and Characters



The problem with hindi serials is all hero/heroines in any show has fixed character

Hero - hates heroine is rowdyish and brat marries heroine falls for her becomes her slave(thats a very light word i have used) and changes for good

Heroine - Is mahaan and independent before marriage, saves parents from all troubles and takes care of siblings, forced to marry hero because of circumstance(to save family etc), shows tasahn with hero for few times, treats his family like her own and becomes their slave and hero sees this and falls for her(literally falls) and forgets everything(work, family responsibilit) and everyone(parents, siblings, kids)

Every serial is based on this character only for past 15-20 years

But in historical its tough for audience to see an king/emperor/prince like this

Both Chandra and Bindu have been shown same character

Chandra a ruthless warrior no love for anyone no heart marries nandini and gets an heart

Bindu an ruthless son no love for mother or father always angry no heart will marry dharam and get an heart

Imagine great emperors CGM who founded india and Bindusar a very good warrior and known as ajathashatru (one without enemy) behaving like what is shown in serial as slaves of their lover wives.

And chankya behaving so without correcting chandra and bindu



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