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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘ How apt. RT was just that in the battle scenes. You could feel the raw power combined with flair and style, that pierced through the enemies, cut through the various ranks, and decimated them all, as you watched him in action.

Kudos to Patti, for quoting this piece, the similarity drawn up is just soo aptπŸ‘
And kudos to Sandhya di for her lovely words of description πŸ‘
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Posted: 8 years ago
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My very dear Adwitiya,

Now this is a new one for me! And HD too, though Tatasky has not yet been able to persuade me to go for HD, since I feel that the tripe one has to suffer does not really need HD.So my new roop must be better than the real thing I have at home! πŸ˜†

Thank you for the affectionate warmth of your response to my efforts.Yes, this time I went to a lot of extra trouble to try and create a "visual" effect, but my dear, nothing can compensate for the absence of the visuals, especially not where Rajat is in his element. None of the three standout moments I have flagged here would really make sense if you could not see him.

You little wretch, your lupine, supine, vulpine, and leonine made me laugh out loud. That was neat, and then I never mind having my leg pulled by youngsters!

That chakravyuh situation had occurred in the first battle as well, and had been beautifully and realistically handled there: Chandra went down on his knees and made a circular, strong sweep with his sword, and disposed of all of them. Though I can never understand why they wait for so long to attack him; it is some sort of Mexican standoff obsession of the director, but when there are so many against one?

I have not seen the new promo, unless it is the one in which she is declaiming that Chandragupta has won this time, and babbles about Magadh ka vinash, as if it was heaven on earth under the iron heel of her pita maharaj! That was just about passable.

As for the next episode, let me just paste below what I wrote above, though I will be covering all this in detail in my next post.

As for the episode, my take on it is quite different from the standard issue one here. Chanakya's aadesh and Nandini's demented, crude outburst hardly need any discussion, for the one is pure politics, no matter how out of place it looks to us from this age of ours, and the other is only an extension of and even worse than her behaviour with Mura.

But what I focussed on was Rajat's performance in the scenes with Durdhara. Right from the time he approaches her, to the morning after, he was quite simply outstanding.

It was a very difficult set of scenes to tackle: the awkwardness, the reluctance amounting to distaste for having any such intimacy with his best friend - whether he is right or wrong here is not the point, the point is that he does so feel - the thinking back to Nandini's mad, hateful tirade, the shamefaced reaction the next morning.

But every single bit of it was near perfect. I cannot think of many actors, even those in films,who could have pulled that off.

As for the emotional equation between Chandra and Durdhura, as I wrote to Saraswathi Akka above, Durdhara loves Chandra, though she does not show it. And as for him, I think he himself does not understand what it is that he feels for her. It is surely not only the anger triggered by Nandini's crude outburst. But there is a deep seated aversion in him towards any act of physical intimacy with a woman, which has to do with his bal brahmachari bent of mind, which is still deeply ingrained in him.

Ashwinee has added a very interesting and psychologically astute explanation for why Chanakya issues that aadesh to Chandra right then. Here is what she has said:

I also feel that Chanakya was not suddenly worried about Chandra's uttaradhikari but he sent Chandra to Durdhara to undo any residual effects that Nandini's comments might have left on Chandra's psyche. I would bet on this guru knowing his shishya that well and also on his cunning in trying to keep Chandra's thoughts from revisiting Nandini's speech by keeping him otherwise πŸ˜‰ engaged.Cynical but not impossible since it also has the added advantage of nudging Chandra in a direction which he otherwise would not take given his 'bal bramhachari' niyat. As you said, pure politics - of a very layered kind!

Very neat and plausible. is it not? Of course this is predicated on Chanakya having heard Nandini's rant from up there, but then everyone here has an eagle's vision and the hearing of a lynx!πŸ˜‰

As for Nandini, I think she has lost her marbles completely. Now she will almost surely pretend that she knew nothing about Malayketu having attacked Chandragupta from behind after the close of battle, and will be praising him for his shaurya in bringing Chandra down.

I cannot imagine how this abysmal character is to be eventually rehabilitated. Look at her in the precap last night, glaring at Chandra in her copyrighted fashion! It has been a long time since the actress won that National Award, that too as a child artist, and it shows. I only hope she pulls up her socks and does much, much better than she has been doing till now. If not, I am afraid that that she will make the show sink, and take poor Rajat, who needs a solid hit, down with her.

The make or break moment for her as an actress will be when she learns the truth about her pita maharaj. Let us see how she delivers then.

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: durgeshnandini

My dear Television!

I wonder why none called you that before, but you are invariably one in the strictly speaking sense! Video was always HD quality, top notch, but this time, I swear I could hear the clashing swords, whooshing spears and clashing armourers as you went ahead... recalling the dialogues, balancing and justifying every tinge of nuance that found its place in that sharp cut handsome countenance. Add to it the smell of air reeked with blood, horse hooves dispersing dust to the already dusty air... which TV is that delightful, if not you?!⭐️

This Alpine peak like thesaurus reserve of yours... loved all the lupine, supine, vulpine, and leonine in it πŸ‘! And undoubtedly the war scenes had to be better this time around, since those Nand vansh ladies doing a Harsh Bhogle with their infrared vision was missing πŸ˜‰

Did you add vitriol to all this now?! Such remarkable ideas you have πŸ‘. In that scene where Chandra is gheraoed by the Nand brothers, I had a fleeting glimpse of Abhimanyu in the Chakra vyuh! But the CVs made him fly, and sank my imaginations😑... and a special kudos for the in absentia bitπŸ˜‰

You have summarised all of it so well, including that jibe at Helena's show stopper costume, I won't really add anything now, but I am eager to hear your take on yesterday's episode and the latest promo, which I am sure you must've had a glimpse by now 😊

Edited by sashashyam - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My very dear Adwitiya,

Now this is a new one for me! And HD too, though Tatasky has not yet been able to persuade me to go for HD, since I feel that the tripe one has to suffer does not really need HD.So my new roop must be better than the real thing I have at home! πŸ˜†

Thank you for the affectionate warmth of your response to my efforts.Yes, this time I went to a lot of extra trouble to try and create a "visual" effect, but my dear, nothing can compensate for the absence of the visuals, especially not where Rajat is in his element. None of the three standout moments I have flagged here would really make sense if you could not see him.

You little wretch, your lupine, supine, vulpine, and leonine made me laugh out loud. That was neat, and then I never mind having my leg pulled by youngsters!

That chakravyuh situation had occurred in the first battle as well, and had been beautifully and realistically handled there: Chandra went down on his knees and made a circular, strong sweep with his sword, and disposed of all of them. Though I can never understand why they wait for so long to attack him; it is some sort of Mexican standoff obsession of the director, but when there are so many against one?

I have not seen the new promo, unless it is the one in which she is declaiming that Chandragupta has won this time, and babbles about Magadh ka vinash, as if it was heaven on earth under the iron heel of her pita maharaj! That was just about passable.

As for the next episode, let me just paste below what I wrote above, though I will be covering all this in detail in my next post.

As for the episode, my take on it is quite different from the standard issue one here. Chanakya's aadesh and Nandini's demented, crude outburst hardly need any discussion, for the one is pure politics, no matter how out of place it looks to us from this age of ours, and the other is only an extension of and even worse than her behaviour with Mura.

But what I focussed on was Rajat's performance in the scenes with Durdhara. Right from the time he approaches her, to the morning after, he was quite simply outstanding.

It was a very difficult set of scenes to tackle: the awkwardness, the reluctance amounting to distaste for having any such intimacy with his best friend - whether he is right or wrong here is not the point, the point is that he does so feel - the thinking back to Nandini's mad, hateful tirade, the shamefaced reaction the next morning.

But every single bit of it was near perfect. I cannot think of many actors, even those in films,who could have pulled that off.

As for the emotional equation between Chandra and Durdhura, as I wrote to Saraswathi Akka above, Durdhara loves Chandra, though she does not show it. And as for him, I think he himself does not understand what it is that he feels for her. It is surely not only the anger triggered by Nandini's crude outburst. But there is a deep seated aversion in him towards any act of physical intimacy with a woman, which has to do with his bal brahmachari bent of mind, which is still deeply ingrained in him.

Ashwinee has added a very interesting and psychologically astute explanation for why Chanakya issues that aadesh to Chandra right then. Here is what she has said:

I also feel that Chanakya was not suddenly worried about Chandra's uttaradhikari but he sent Chandra to Durdhara to undo any residual effects that Nandini's comments might have left on Chandra's psyche. I would bet on this guru knowing his shishya that well and also on his cunning in trying to keep Chandra's thoughts from revisiting Nandini's speech by keeping him otherwise πŸ˜‰ engaged.Cynical but not impossible since it also has the added advantage of nudging Chandra in a direction which he otherwise would not take given his 'bal bramhachari' niyat. As you said, pure politics - of a very layered kind!

Very neat and plausible. is it not? Of course this is predicated on Chanakya having heard Nandini's rant from up there, but then everyone here has an eagle's vision and the hearing of a lynx!πŸ˜‰

As for Nandini, I think she has lost her marbles completely. Now she will almost surely pretend that she knew nothing about Malayketu having attacked Chandragupta from behind after the close of battle, and will be praising him for his shaurya in bringing Chandra down.

I cannot imagine how this abysmal character is to be eventually rehabilitated. Look at her in the precap last night, glaring at Chandra in her copyrighted fashion! It has been a long time since the actress won that National Award, that too as a child artist, and it shows. I only hope she pulls up her socks and does much, much better than she has been doing till now. If not, I am afraid that that she will make the show sink, and take poor Rajat, who needs a solid hit, down with her.

The make or break moment for her as an actress will be when she learns the truth about her pita maharaj. Let us see how she delivers then.

Shyamala Aunty

I agree with Ashwinee, as she remarkably states a plausible reason for the Chanakya-Chandra scene and everything that transpired thereafter... and with you too, as you have so eloquently captured the acting finesse of Tokas. It is logical that way, and takes off from where it stopped in Chandra-Durdhara wedding night scene, anything else or rather anyone else wouldn't have been half as convincing as him. It was a moment for him, and he nailed it πŸ‘


The CVs have etched a slightly off beat, but sensible relationship between Chandra and his two wives so far, and the viewers have managed to accept them as they are. But the next one... well, it's to be seen... someone in the forum had pointed out that extremes of hurt or shock, drives one to give the best out of themselves, let's see if that holds true for Nandini!


Fingers crossed for tonight πŸ˜‰
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Ranjana, my darling girl, what a morale booster you are! I cannot remember a single one of your posts that has not pepped me up. Thank you, my dear.

I am delighted that you liked the battle part so much, for I took far more pains with it than usual. But why was the bottom page missing? Because the samhaar was, so to speak, left hanging in the air? I felt far worse when the telecast began last night, and I found that the chap was alive after all, and not much the worse for it, at that!😲

I loved your comparison of Chandra on the battlefield to Bhima bearing down on Dusshasana. It is perfect, and it is better than anything I could have thought of. The Mahabharata offers parallels for any and every situation in life. No wonder that it is called a whole world in itself.

I am happy that you enjoyed the gentler portions as well, especially the last line, for I was really pleased with the way they turned out, which is not always the case! Rajat was so good in the comic sequences with Durdhara that I could not stop laughing.

He is getting a lot of variety of situations and demands on him in this show, I feel, far more than in Jodha Akbar, and I am sure it will help him hone his skills as an actor even more. As for last night's episode, which has been generally panned here but which I saw very differently (see my post to Pakhi above) what he managed to project there was quite extraordinary.

I am a greedy creature, so I shall look out for your comments on the last two threads too, but I hope that does not cut into your work time.

Affectionately,

Shyamala Aunty


Dear aunty, I'm happy you liked my comments 😳. You deserve to be applauded for the incisive analysis and the stunning, stirring descriptions of the scenes and characters. And when I think of you typing these long posts with painful fingers, my respect only grows.

I got the bottom page missing' feeling because, for a few seconds, I forgot I was reading the description of what happened in the show, and not an actual taleπŸ˜†. That is the power of your writing. If you try your hand at writing fiction, I am sure you will slay it.

I wasn't surprised by the fact that Nand survived. Going by the screenspace he has enjoyed so far and the general tendencies of PHs, I doubt he will meet his end v soonπŸ˜†. I know little about the actual history, but going by my experience of hindi showsπŸ˜†, I think it is more likely he will flee the battlefield somehow and feign his death. Nandini might initially believe he is dead. Then she will realise he is not. They will keep in touch through surreptitious meetings and correspondences, and plot and plan to destroy Chandra. And then when thorns of love start sprouting on the stem of the blooming rose of hate, Nandini will start getting torn between her father and husband. She will be shown feeling more and more reluctant to obey her father and harm her pati parmeshwar. Then when she finally decides to side with Chandra, the latter will find out about pita-putri's previous schemes, and he will throw her out or put her in prison, and...well, you get the gist of my scriptπŸ˜†.

Glad you agree about the Bhima comparison😳. It was an uninhibited performance, and hence, all the more impressive. (For reasons I'm afraid to think aboutπŸ˜³πŸ˜†) I like seeing characters explode with rage on screen, and I enjoy it further when actors let go of themselves and submit wholeheartedly to the character without worrying if they will look good' for the camera. And I feel that is what Rajat did in that scene. I haven't watched JA, so I cannot compare. But I agree that this show is giving him a chance to explore and hone his talent, and he is using the opportunity to the fullest. I read your take on the scene in last night's episode and I concur with your opinion on Rajat's performance. More layers could have been added to the girl's partπŸ€”. But I guess the poor thing is walking around with a label of "Kuch din ki mehmaan" on her foreheadπŸ˜†, so the CVs don't want to expend too much effort on herπŸ˜†.

Regarding work, not to worry, aunty! I was away because of something I do as a hobby. It is done for this month, so I have more time on my hands :) I will post my comments for the Vengeance thread tomorrow for sure!

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Aunty, This post is so good, the episode is nothing compared to this.. ❀️
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Aunty.

How can she fall in love with someone who killed her family. It's incomprehensible to me..how will CVS show this. I don't think it's possible in reality
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose


Aunty.

How can she fall in love with someone who killed her family. It's incomprehensible to me..how will CVS show this. I don't think it's possible in reality

That too right in front of her eyes.
But firstly, how can Chandra marry her, given what her father did to his family, and how she behaved with him and WHY should he marry her at all?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

That too right in front of her eyes.
But firstly, how can Chandra marry her, given what her father did to his family, and how she behaved with him and WHY should he marry her at all?


To torture her, of course. That still makes senseπŸ˜†
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose


To torture her, of course. That still makes senseπŸ˜†

Right now he has let her free. She returns to the palace in the precap. She will surely do something else that will force him to attempt to curtail her forever.πŸ˜†

There was a spoiler segment that shows Helena march into the Magadh palace with the army. And Helena wanted to take revenge on Nandini as well. πŸ€” Now that Malay has escaped she will be more stern with Nandini. Hope she is not the one who suggests the marriage. She might not forgive herself when the Amar Prem Kahani (?) unfolds.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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My dear Alakh,

When she is convinced that they all deserved to die, and die at his hands because of what her father had done to him and his family. Also that her father was really a thug of the worst description for all except herself, and that her brothers were not much better.

It happened often in post WW II Germany, when perfectly respectable and loving family men were revealed to have been sadistic SS officers and concentration camp commandants. In many such cases, their families could not stand the horror of it and disowned them. There is only so much one's conscience can stand in the name of love.

This is for understanding what Chandra did to her father and her brothers. Falling in love with him is a separate issue, and if one were to go by logic, that would have to be due to some extraordinarily great qualities she discovered in him.

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose


Aunty.

How can she fall in love with someone who killed her family. It's incomprehensible to me..how will CVS show this. I don't think it's possible in reality

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