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Posted: 9 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: shyam09

I think this is a step beyond romance-loving KVK fangirls.
This is radical CASKaurvakism, which sounds quite scary actually. 😆😆


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Subha.

Haha hahaha

Ur post is just hilarious.

U know what,Kaurvaki was not shown strong. Her character was ruined more today.I can understand she is still red with anger but she stooped down too low by calling Devi a commoner.This is the same commoner who,instead of going to a safe place with her father,decides to help kaurvaki get her love.She did so much for kaurvaki and what did she get in return? An unhappy marriage with a man who will always love kaurvaki! And no,she was not happy while getting married.She was forced to marry Ashok which kaurvaki very well saw yet she called Devi an opportunist.

That proved that Kaurvaki is an opportunist who used this commoner for her own selfish gains.

It was not Devi's fault yet she goes to apologize and kaurvaki truly proved she is indeed the daughter of Jagannath by insulting her.

Jaisa pita,waisi putri!🤢

Magadh got rid of such a woman and now Ashok can fully focus on his mission without this woman who is a huge distraction to him

Ashok was right.This woman doesn't know the meaning of True Love,how will she know the meaning of Friendship? All her dialogues are always about "I,me,myself'".

You said everything now what to say.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#13
According to Chanakya

There is some self-interest behind every friendship.There is no friendship without self-interests.This is a bitter truth.


The sad truth is that Kaurwaki-Devi friendship was a mutual beneficial society.Devi needed protection from random bandits and unlawful elements while she was separated from her father.Kaurwaki needed someone to take care of the nitty gritties of life -food,clothes,ardent supporter for Mission FATAM (Forcing Ashok to Accept Me) (coined by .Subha).In fact Bela v 2.0.
Which brings us to the next quote from Chanakya Neeti

Never make friends with people who are above or below you in status.Such friendships will never give you any happiness.

It looks as if Chanakya had Kaurwaki and Devi in mind when he wrote that quote. Kaurwaki was generous and friendly as long as she had the upper hand.But in her inner mind she never accepted Devi as her equal.To KVK Devi was only a tuch sadharan stree. She accepted Devi as her friend so long as the latter was never a competition.Nevermind Ashok.If one fine day Devi decided to take up sword fighting and proved to rival KVK, the same situation would have come about.Albeit not so nastily.This is a fact KVK never even acknowledged to herself.To put it in a simple way-Kaurwaki was prejudiced.For once the CVs were true to the period -royals thought that the commoners existed simply to serve them.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shyam09

I respectfully disagree (for some parts, I do agree that the CVs ruined it).


Kaurvaki has been promoted in such a way that she is the end all, be all for Ashok's existence. Without her, Ashok is nothing but Patrick Star, brainless and worthless. Kaurvaki channels all of Ashok's emotions into goals (so to speak) and it allows him to achieve much more because she connects with him on a soul-basis. For example, in the duel between Vikatakura, Kaurvaki was instructing Ashok how to fight / defend / to escape from the net. Kaurvaki wasn't shouting, she was whispering it to herself and she was quite some distance away. All she did was tie a Raksha-Kavach (which mind you, fell during the battle) - but Ashok gives the credit to Kaurvaki immediately. It's because of Kaurvaki that Khondana's secret hide-out was found, and let's not forget she also battled Uttar and saved Ashok's life from Sushim. She and Ashok were soulmates ...

But slowly Kaurvaki began to change. For all the things she said and knew about her father, she never hesitated to defend him. It's not a bad thing, but look at the circumstances - she left her father performing the final rituals of "herself" to be with Ashok. She didn't bother to invite her father to the wedding, nor did she care about them UNTIL they showed up, courtesy of Ashok's weird need to have Jaggu's permission, and Bindusar's stupidity. After he showed up, Kaurvaki tried her best to save the marriage in whatever way. Sure Devi helped screw up sometimes (with her advice on hiding Jaggu's crime from Ashok), but for the most part, it falls on Kaurvaki.

It culminates in Ashok betraying his own kingdom by hiding Jagganath's crime because Kaurvaki makes him swear on her. That's selfish and to help Ashok in ABN requires someone who is selfless.

That all being said, Kaurvaki hasn't struggled for love. She hasn't, but since we've heard it so many times in the show, it got stuck in our heads. When she went out searching for Ashok, she didn't do so only with her trusty companion Bella. She took a whole entourage to ensure her princess needs are fulfilled. A couple of meals every day, a warm comfy bed (so I imagine), etc. After she escaped from Jaggu again, sure she "struggled" alone, but that was until the next morning when she found Ashok. Once she came to Pataliputra, she wasn't faced with any issues. Devi took on most of the hassles for her.

Let's move on to trust: Trust can be defined as a
firm belief in the reliability, truth, ability, or strength of someone (google). Kaurvaki's trust was never broken by Dharma, Vitt, Bindusar, Ashok, or Devi; Kaurvaki broke that trust herself when she refused to stand up for the truth. Remember that scene where Jaggu's crime was being hidden by Ashok. It took a fight scene and Dharma to threaten suicide for Kaurvaki to confess the truth. Is that trust? Kaurvaki forcing Ashok to hold back from bringing Jaggu's crime, is that trust? Kaurvaki hearing the insults of the Mauryans who cared for her - particularly the nasty insults of Dharma - from her father, is that trust? No. The truth of the matter is that everything is bent and skewed out of proportions for Kaurvaki. Jagganath tells everyone that Dharma slept her way "to the top" (so to speak), and Kaurvaki stays silent. This is the same Dharma who went out of her way to favor Kaurvaki over everyone else. She stayed silent. Is that trust? No. Ashok may have acted in anger, but his anger was justified. Everyone was silently listening to the insults.

Devi stood by Kaurvaki the entire time, but she never got anything back but insults. Kaurvaki didn't like it when Devi hugged Ashok, she didn't like it when Devi "interfered" a few times, and she told Ashok that Devi wouldn't marry him. I would argue that she never saw Devi as a friend, but as someone who can make her so called "struggle" easier.

Ashok's reaction - marrying Devi - was instigated by Kaurvaki herself. She said that no girl would marry such a Chand.

Finally, why should anyone come to talk to Kaurvaki, including Dharma? She openly bashed Ashok, she refused to stand up for the people who were shipping her and Ashok, and instead sided with her criminal father who was trying to do nothing but separate AshWaki. Devi meeting her was plain stupid. I agree that everyone shares some blame, but Kaurvaki holds the most blame because everyone stooped down for her and Ashok's milan, but she never bowed before anyone and continued to expect people to bow down to her after the incident (at least that's how I see her saying "rani dharma must have come to see me')

I totally agree with you dear friend that kaurwaki's behavior is not at all justified but not her anger, even I disappointed we she used such kind of towords Devi,but the words out of anger will have the only intention i.e.hurting the opponent it won't be the words of heart,but anger

Everybody is having problem in the way kaurwaki is being given credit for others achievement but I don't remember her asking of credits for the above mentioned activities then y to blame her.
S kaurwaki is defending her father even after knowing he is at fault because he's her father, but not to forget she also defended ashoka most of the time against both the Fathers

She left her father to mourn on behalf of Devi's advice, wen people are in diellema in selecting one of their favourites third person's advice will be considered more convenient, both the girls decided make their father's wait for some time but y only kaurwaki is blamed

The main problem here is kaurwaki is shown as a human being rather than mahan as everyone is expecting a protagonist to be, a ever sacrificing soul like dharma and Devi whereas kaurwaki is a normal women who is selfish at times, egoistic, short tempered and s if course opportunist also has many flaws, because after all a human heart
Is kaurwaki asked Devi to be her daasi ???
Is she asked dharma for the hands of ashoka, ??
NO...they came by themselves to get the glorification of amar prem shippers, and of course they betrayed her
What was devi expecting from kaurwaki "A Red Carpet Welcome" s she stood at her side in thick and thin but she didn't hesitate to think herself as ashoka's bride wen dharma asked her to get ready even it is for a second, when ashoka asked for her hand for marriage she didn't say I can't , she only said how could I wen u love kaurwaki, she didn't even bother to look at her sakhi during the marriage, y can't she be called an opportunist
Definition on trust was good, is dharma stood to her promise and trust,how can a woman like her can stand smiling while a girl who considered her a mother lost everything in fraction of a second whom she was shipping for her son, she didn't even care for a while about pain of a girl whose marriage is stopped even after her ghad bandhan, and her love of her life is marrying someone else before her eyes, so don't u think about the need of apologies, even mahan dharma became opportunist
Devi made her participate in swayamvadhu, dharma compelled her to stay, they shifted sides wen their own decisions troubled them, what was the mistake of kaurwaki, listening to them whom she considered hers
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: navyasamee

It was everybody's fault .bcoz in the whole sequence no one is completely correct .cvs ruined it. We should not blame kvk completely bcoz the reaction of kvk is quite normal for women who struggled for love and devi did help bt atlast if u were in kvk place the person whom u trusted most and know each and every struggle face by you for ashok if that person ended up doing such thing ( watever the reason behind it ) vil feel bad abt it

I agree devi did came to apologize bt it is not so easy to accept and listen bcoz after all this happened to her should need some time atleast to think properly
I am neither aswaki nor ashvi fan bt from last week episodes analysis according to my opinon kvk did stop bindusar killing Jagannath before ashok only .bt wat did ashok do he attacked Jagannath (he is completely wrong he should nt insult magadh and his parents) bt the main reason kvk gave him slap bcoz of uncontrolled anger she mentioned it also .and i agree partof it bcoz Jagannath is her father i dont deny it bt anybody in her place vil react the same way .bt the main reason is was his anger .she mention it that how can he fulfill akhand bharath and also she mention it that u vil destroy everything with this anger .kalinga war vil be d proof of her words.bt wat did ashok do .he took revenge on her without thinking even for a while and devi also didnt oppose it so reaction of kvk is quite natural

Actually in my view the whole marriage sequence should not be like this they spoiled everything .especially ashok kvk and devi characterization
I accept kvk blame magadh bt that is also natural after that happened nobody especially dharma who encouraged to get married to ashok came to talk to her .


Kaurwaki was very much present when the marriage was going on na.She was there till the end.Did Devi say yes to the marriage? No!Instead she asked a question that could have actually stopped Ashok from marrying her if he was not mad with anger.

She saw Ashok dragging her to the mandap. She saw Ashok dragging her while doing pheras too.And yet she blames Devi for losing her love? Really!

Actually it should have been the other way around. Devi should have shouted at Kaurwaki that I did so much for u and look what I got!A husband who will never love me.A husband who will always make me realize that u will always be his one and true love.I got crushed because of urs and ashok's egos.And u r calling me Tucch sadharan stree.I wish u had called this to me the day we first met and I decided to help u in ur Mission FATAM (Forcing Ashok to Accept Me).At least my life would have been saved from ruining.

Another point worth noting. Kaurvaki calls Ashok Chand because he couldn't control his anger.But she is fine with her father not controlling his anger and hurling abuses at the magadh family and degrading himself.And can she control her own anger? No!Instead she loses her mind so much that she tries to kill her own 'best friend'.Hypocrisy much!

So if Ashok attacks Jagannath,a man who was going on and on insulting Magadh family,in anger he is wrong. But if Kaurwaki tries to kill Devi,who came to apologize even though it was not her fault,in anger then she's justified? !

As I said,there's nothing for kaurvaki fans to feel so proud of because the cvs crossed their limits in butchering her character.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: fairyabi

I totally agree with you dear friend that kaurwaki's behavior is not at all justified but not her anger, even I disappointed we she used such kind of towords Devi,but the words out of anger will have the only intention i.e.hurting the opponent it won't be the words of heart,but anger

Everybody is having problem in the way kaurwaki is being given credit for others achievement but I don't remember her asking of credits for the above mentioned activities then y to blame her.
S kaurwaki is defending her father even after knowing he is at fault because he's her father, but not to forget she also defended ashoka most of the time against both the Fathers

She left her father to mourn on behalf of Devi's advice, wen people are in diellema in selecting one of their favourites third person's advice will be considered more convenient, both the girls decided make their father's wait for some time but y only kaurwaki is blamed

The main problem here is kaurwaki is shown as a human being rather than mahan as everyone is expecting a protagonist to be, a ever sacrificing soul like dharma and Devi whereas kaurwaki is a normal women who is selfish at times, egoistic, short tempered and s if course opportunist also has many flaws, because after all a human heart
Is kaurwaki asked Devi to be her daasi ???
Is she asked dharma for the hands of ashoka, ??
NO...they came by themselves to get the glorification of amar prem shippers, and of course they betrayed her
What was devi expecting from kaurwaki "A Red Carpet Welcome" s she stood at her side in thick and thin but she didn't hesitate to think herself as ashoka's bride wen dharma asked her to get ready even it is for a second, when ashoka asked for her hand for marriage she didn't say I can't , she only said how could I wen u love kaurwaki, she didn't even bother to look at her sakhi during the marriage, y can't she be called an opportunist
Definition on trust was good, is dharma stood to her promise and trust,how can a woman like her can stand smiling while a girl who considered her a mother lost everything in fraction of a second whom she was shipping for her son, she didn't even care for a while about pain of a girl whose marriage is stopped even after her ghad bandhan, and her love of her life is marrying someone else before her eyes, so don't u think about the need of apologies, even mahan dharma became opportunist
Devi made her participate in swayamvadhu, dharma compelled her to stay, they shifted sides wen their own decisions troubled them, what was the mistake of kaurwaki, listening to them whom she considered hers

Yes you are right devi the girl who stood with kvk like a rock who did everything in her capcity from making ashok undersrand kvk s love to fighting with jaggu, andini had no right to consider herself to be ashok s bride even for a minute
Seriously , that girl nearly died she choose death over ashwaki s sepearation nd still only thing you guys are bothered about is that she thought herself to be ashok s wife in a moment of weakness how pathetic
Agreed she didn't say no but she didn't said yes either
Devi in her reply asked a very valid question that how can she marry ashok when he loves kvk ashok should have taken the hint and backed off
It was ashok who dragged devi to mandap everybody who has seen that epi knows how broken nd lifeless devi was but she was not able ro do anything kvk destroyed her life with her own hands and jaggu contributed
He was the mastermind he was one who sacred vitt by telling him about the pact he was the one who insulted ashok bindusar and dharma
ashok warned him mant times to stop but he didnt how much will that poor guy tolerate jaggu literally accused dharma of "seelping her way up" no son will tolerate that against his mother
Talking about trust and affection then why didn't kvk stopped her father when he was insulting the mauryan family
She considers dharma as her mother but still didnt uttered a word of protest when somebody was saying such cheap thing about her "moh boli maa"
And after ashok attacked jaggu she slapped him as a daughter what she did was justified but instead of confronting ashok for attacking her father all she did was call him chand and say that how no girl would marry him kvk didn't stopped there she went on and on about the same topic ashok who was already consumed with rage couldn't take it anymore and did what he did
After all this kvk had the auadicity to accuse devi of stealing her happiness i mean what did the poor girl do ? ashok didnt even consider what she said before dragging her to mandap
Kvk relationship with everyone whether it was devi dharma aur bindusar was always sided where she only got from them but was never willing to give
But even after this her bakhts will support her
Seriously it feels like both the stars and bhakts suffer from "ghajini syndrome"





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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: fairyabi

I totally agree with you dear friend that kaurwaki's behavior is not at all justified but not her anger, even I disappointed we she used such kind of towords Devi,but the words out of anger will have the only intention i.e.hurting the opponent it won't be the words of heart,but anger

Everybody is having problem in the way kaurwaki is being given credit for others achievement but I don't remember her asking of credits for the above mentioned activities then y to blame her.
S kaurwaki is defending her father even after knowing he is at fault because he's her father, but not to forget she also defended ashoka most of the time against both the Fathers

She left her father to mourn on behalf of Devi's advice, wen people are in diellema in selecting one of their favourites third person's advice will be considered more convenient, both the girls decided make their father's wait for some time but y only kaurwaki is blamed

The main problem here is kaurwaki is shown as a human being rather than mahan as everyone is expecting a protagonist to be, a ever sacrificing soul like dharma and Devi whereas kaurwaki is a normal women who is selfish at times, egoistic, short tempered and s if course opportunist also has many flaws, because after all a human heart
Is kaurwaki asked Devi to be her daasi ???
Is she asked dharma for the hands of ashoka, ??
NO...they came by themselves to get the glorification of amar prem shippers, and of course they betrayed her
What was devi expecting from kaurwaki "A Red Carpet Welcome" s she stood at her side in thick and thin but she didn't hesitate to think herself as ashoka's bride wen dharma asked her to get ready even it is for a second, when ashoka asked for her hand for marriage she didn't say I can't , she only said how could I wen u love kaurwaki, she didn't even bother to look at her sakhi during the marriage, y can't she be called an opportunist
Definition on trust was good, is dharma stood to her promise and trust,how can a woman like her can stand smiling while a girl who considered her a mother lost everything in fraction of a second whom she was shipping for her son, she didn't even care for a while about pain of a girl whose marriage is stopped even after her ghad bandhan, and her love of her life is marrying someone else before her eyes, so don't u think about the need of apologies, even mahan dharma became opportunist
Devi made her participate in swayamvadhu, dharma compelled her to stay, they shifted sides wen their own decisions troubled them, what was the mistake of kaurwaki, listening to them whom she considered hers

Yes you are right Devi who stood with kvk like a rock who did everything in her capacity from making ashok understand kvk s love to taking up fight with andini to threatning jaggu for uniting ashwaki had no right to consider herself as ashok s bride even in the moment of weakness
That girl nearly died she choose death over ashwaki s separation but then also all you are bothered about is that she considered herself to be ashok s bride just for a second how pathetic
Kvk consider dharma to be her mother but still remains silent when somebody insults her seriously aisi beti se toh beti na hona acha
But i am not suprised that kvj didnt reacted when her father said cheap thing about dharma because her relationship with everybody whether it was bindu devi or dharma has always been one sided she only belives in taking from them nd not giving it back abd everything that she and her father did she had the audacity to blame devi for snatching her happiness ? It was not like devi forced ashok for marriage she didn't even said yes" only asked a question that how can she marry ashok when he loves kvk ashok should have taken the hint and backed off instead of dragging het to mandap
Kvk destroyed her lije on her on and her beloved father contributed
She is probably the best example of rich spoilt brat
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Kaurvaki fans are fine with kaurvaki being silent when Dharma was insulted.But they are dead angry with Dharma for smiling while the marriage was going on.🤣So what should have Dharma done?Cry?Because Kaurvaki lost her love.
She was expecting Ashok to still marry her in spite of all the insults that Jagannath gave his family. She was expecting Ashok to leave his matrubhoomi prem and his parents for her just the way she did for him.And when that didn't happen, she's angry with the fact that ashok didn't choose her over others.

And suddenly yeh pita ke liye prem kaha se aa gaya?Woh bhi for that pita who broke her marriage with ashok.I never saw her missing her parents before her engagement.Any daughter in her place would vow to never see such father's face.Instead she wants to be known as that pita ki putri. She truly proved herself that in yesterday's episode.
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Originally posted by: navyasamee

It was everybody's fault .bcoz in the whole sequence no one is completely correct .cvs ruined it. We should not blame kvk completely bcoz the reaction of kvk is quite normal for women who struggled for love and devi did help bt atlast if u were in kvk place the person whom u trusted most and know each and every struggle face by you for ashok if that person ended up doing such thing ( watever the reason behind it ) vil feel bad abt it

I agree devi did came to apologize bt it is not so easy to accept and listen bcoz after all this happened to her should need some time atleast to think properly
I am neither aswaki nor ashvi fan bt from last week episodes analysis according to my opinon kvk did stop bindusar killing Jagannath before ashok only .bt wat did ashok do he attacked Jagannath (he is completely wrong he should nt insult magadh and his parents) bt the main reason kvk gave him slap bcoz of uncontrolled anger she mentioned it also .and i agree partof it bcoz Jagannath is her father i dont deny it bt anybody in her place vil react the same way .bt the main reason is was his anger .she mention it that how can he fulfill akhand bharath and also she mention it that u vil destroy everything with this anger .kalinga war vil be d proof of her words.bt wat did ashok do .he took revenge on her without thinking even for a while and devi also didnt oppose it so reaction of kvk is quite natural

Actually in my view the whole marriage sequence should not be like this they spoiled everything .especially ashok kvk and devi characterization
I accept kvk blame magadh bt that is also natural after that happened nobody especially dharma who encouraged to get married to ashok came to talk to her .



KWK herself when she is angry doesn't know what she is saying. Not just now but before too. Remember when Devi asked Ashok not to leave before their wedding, KWK shouted at her and told her to stay away. She is the person who was always there for her and instead of thanking her she was being harsh to her. So not only Ashok even she needs to control her anger. Before advising someone she should change first.

If only she did something to stop her father when he was insulting everyone maybe Ashok wouldn't have stabbed him. What was she waiting for ? It's not like Ashok didn't give him chance. He insulted him for about 15 min. What did KWK do ? Nothing.

Before also I agreed that KWK's anger was justified after all it was her father. No matter how bad he is it's still her father. But KWK who can't control her anger was not only angry but she completely changed her opinion about Ashok, the man she claimed loving. She knew he was a chand and still she wanted to marry him. Then what happened ? It's not like she didn't know how he was. She could have been just angry at her, accuse him, refuse to marry him but why tell him that no one will marry him because he is a chand ? And of course Ashok got provoked and proved her wrong. Ashok is at fault for not letting Devi decide what she wants. But that's the only mistake by him.

Again her anger is justified but she wasn't just angry she was very cheap when Devi came to meet her.
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Originally posted by: .Subha.

Kaurvaki fans are fine with kaurvaki being silent when Dharma was insulted.But they are dead angry with Dharma for smiling while the marriage was going on.🤣So what should have Dharma done?Cry?Because Kaurvaki lost her love.

She was expecting Ashok to still marry her in spite of all the insults that Jagannath gave his family. She was expecting Ashok to leave his matrubhoomi prem and his parents for her just the way she did for him.And when that didn't happen, she's angry with the fact that ashok didn't choose her over others.

And suddenly yeh pita ke liye prem kaha se aa gaya?Woh bhi for that pita who broke her marriage with ashok.I never saw her missing her parents before her engagement.Any daughter in her place would vow to never see such father's face.Instead she wants to be known as that pita ki putri. She truly proved herself that in yesterday's episode.


Her ego got hurt that's why she wants to make Ashok believe that she doesn't love him anymore. 😆 Before that she wants to convince herself that she doesn't love him anymore. 😆

She stayed there watching Ashvi get married but didn't went to see if her father was still alive or not. 😆 She actually doesn't love anyone except herself.

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