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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: BabyHimavari

Unfortunately TV serials are made for TRP aunties who r so fond of Natak aka Drama... So even doing a historical piece they had to show Natakiya Rupantara rather than real History...🤣.. cause TRP aunties are allergic to real historcial staff and script... Epic channel had quite good quality history related show and serials...one of those is "Siyasat" Which is totally based on the game of politics during akbar's time... but as the serial is realistic and every character had grey touch on it... and it was free of natak or nauntankies.. so even being a really good quality serial they didn't get popularity aka ashirwaad of trp aunties...😆😆

TRP's is a curse on Indian tv...which hinders quality content and show us crappy and monotonous shows which has no relevance to past, present and future. In fact it degrades the fabric of relationships, of trust, friendship, marriage...everything...All thanks to Ekta ji...😆 I seriously hate her shows...and so the other shows of Indian tv ...Instead I prefer to watch cartoons...like Chota Bheem...😆
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Courageous_Leo

TRP's is a curse on Indian tv...which hinders quality content and show us crappy and monotonous shows which has no relevance to past, present and future. In fact it degrades the fabric of relationships, of trust, friendship, marriage...everything...All thanks to Ekta ji...😆 I seriously hate her shows...and so the other shows of Indian tv ...Instead I prefer to watch cartoons...like Chota Bheem...😆

I completely agree with you on the TRP bit. I have not understood to this day the rule by which they work and influence the popularity of a TV show. Who exactly are the TRP aunties? All the aunties around me enjoy watching stuff which is logical and interesting. I hardly find any of them watching the kind of stuff which is bread and butter to get TRPs. So do I assume that these TRPs are managed and manipulated? As a matter of fact the children's shows are the only shows whose content is least affected by TRPs. I too love watching Chota Bheem and Motu Patlu with my little son. Many of the episodes are better and interesting than regular shows.
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Posted: 9 years ago
@shailusri1983...Even I am trying to understand the concept behind TRP...Though I was related to advertising field for a short time, I couldn't understand it. As far as I have understood the concept of TRP is narrow...In an age where we have multiple mediums, why should anyone stick only to TV ??? TRP's aunties generally refers to housewives who find interest in all this non sense...But I find it difficult to digest. Today housewives are not like that. They know what's good and bad for them. And I will say it's stereotyping women ( the audience) ...A normal person has enough tensions in his /her lie...Why would any person opt for more tensions...in the form of shows ???


We can give the credit to Ekta kapoor who has started the trend. And rest followed it without even thinking once about the repercussions it will have.
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Posted: 9 years ago
so its Krishnadasi that's ending to make way for Bigg Boss.. (read a ToI article regarding the same) so can CAS breathe easy now?
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

I don't think that will be the case, Leo. These get ups must be for the promos.

This script seems to be based on the classic 1990 Chanakya of Chandraprakash Dwivedi, which is the ultimate word on this subject. Of course that was a dense politico-strategic treatise on empire building, which would have to be softened for current audiences.

There, Chanakya decides that his protege should marry the daughter of the dead Dhananand, who would be this Nandini, so as to gain legitimacy as the new ruler. He would not have welcomed any love marriage for his boy wonder, since that would distract him for the ABN abhiyaan, but far from opposing the union of Chandragupta and Nandini, he was the one who insisted on it.

One of my young friends had dug up a press interview snippet of Shweta's where she says exactly the same thing- a forced marriage between enemies who hate each other.

Neither Chandragupta nor Dhananand's daughter wants the marriage but Chanakya pushes it thru.
For Chandragupta was of very modest lineage, and for all that Sushim & Co. rant about Ashoka as a daasiputra, Chandragupta's mother Mura, from whose name the dynasty took its name, Maurya, was the next thing to a daasi. So marrying Dhananand's daughter would have helped him gain acceptancy among the Nand-supporters.

Remember also that after Chandragupta had been crowned, Chanakya entrusted him and the kingdom to Dhananand's mahamaatya, Acharya Rakshasa, and went away to complete his Arthashastra. So he always wanted to extract everything beneficial from the Nand dynasty and its government.

As for the timeline, they will have to show the teenage Chandragupta being taken on by Chanakya after the big blow up between Chanakya and Dhananand. They cannot begin with the grown up Chandragupta and show the earlier part as a flashback, for the Chanakyasabatham, Chanakya's shapath, or oath - that he will not knot his long hair till Dhananand is dethroned - is the vital central point of the whole tale.

They have already signed on the young Chandragupta, one Jineet Rath.

Judging from the way in which Jodha Akbar was handled, I think they will have a few episodes to wrap up all these preliminaries, and will then switch to the time when Chanakya probably goes to Takshashila to mobilise the opposition to the Greeks, and takes Chandragupta along.

In the 1990 Chanakya, Chandragupta goes to Takshashila on his own and wants to gain admission to the Vishwavidyalaya there, the Takshashila University. He gets in, as he has been well taught by his father, who was a prominent scholar in Pataliputra. There he is taught by Chanakya, and later selected to lead his crusade, first against the Greeks,and then for an Akhanda Bharat, and thus against Dhananand.

So the changeover from the teenager to Rajat has to take place in Takshashila. But what they could do is to show the Samrat Chandragupta in the opening sequence, and then the rest as a continuous flashback. Let us see.

What really disconcerts me is the idea of our Khallatak playing Chanakya.😡

By the way, did you at all see my response to the question you had asked yesterday? I don't think so.

Shyamala Aunty


Shyamala Aunty I remember the Chanakya you mentioned here. My dad used to almost religiously watch it. I was a very small kid then and wouldn't have understood even 10% of the political games, dialogues, or story. But even then, the show was a very fascinating watch. It was a class apart when I compare it now with the later versions of the same story. The final nail in the coffin would perhaps be someone like CAS Khallatak playing Chanakya. I am not doubting the potential of the actor. But I think Chanakya's role deserves somebody who has the aura, the regality, and the majesty befitting one of the greatest exponents of Indian politics and statecraft. I definitely find it hard to imagine somebody like CAS Khallu stepping into the shoes of such an enigmatic character and doing justice to it.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: kaatayani

so its Krishnadasi that's ending to make way for Bigg Boss.. (read a ToI article regarding the same) so can CAS breathe easy now?

I doubt...As Colors has many shows in its pipeline...😕...But can hope so...that atleast the show gets extension so that it can show what we were waiting for...But even that depends on the cv's
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Posted: 9 years ago
@shailusri1983...Even I am trying to understand the concept behind TRP...Though I was related to advertising field for a short time, I couldn't understand it. As far as I have understood the concept of TRP is narrow...In an age where we have multiple mediums, why should anyone stick only to TV ??? TRP's aunties generally refers to housewives who find interest in all this non sense...But I find it difficult to digest. Today housewives are not like that. They know what's good and bad for them. And I will say it's stereotyping women ( the audience) ...A normal person has enough tensions in his /her lie...Why would any person opt for more tensions...in the form of shows ???


We can give the credit to Ekta kapoor who has started the trend. And rest followed it without even thinking once about the repercussions it will have.
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The point you have raised regarding TV TRPs only being taken into account while judging the apparent popularity or unpopularity of a show is also very valid. Even when I was in India, I never got the time to catch up shows on TV. I used to watch them online. Then even online views have to be taken into account. But it isn't! What about overseas viewers? I must say this whole TRP concept is a mess. There happens to be no transparency and uniformity.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Courageous_Leo

I doubt...As Colors has many shows in its pipeline...😕...But can hope so...that atleast the show gets extension so that it can show what we were waiting for...But even that depends on the cv's

Ever since I got to know of Dharma's death,I felt this show is reaching it's climax.Dharma died too early and looks like the end of the evil 4 is also near.After they die,there's nothing else to show except the kalinga war.

I was actually thinking they will show the Ashok as Governor of Ujjain track after the wedding but they straight jumped to Dharma's death.

I think this show is ending soon.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: .Subha.

Ever since I got to know of Dharma's death,I felt this show is reaching it's climax.Dharma died too early and looks like the end of the evil 4 is also near.After they die,there's nothing else to show except the kalinga war.

I was actually thinking they will show the Ashok as Governor of Ujjain track after the wedding but they straight jumped to Dharma's death.

I think this show is ending soon.

CAS is one show which had promise but failed to actually deliver despite having everything like an excellent storyline, an excellent cast of characters, etc. If only more attention had been given to what was actually relevant to the story rather than wasting time on side avenues, it would have been perfect. But the world is full of imperfectly perfect things and the what could have been but is nots. CAS is also another such story. I am sorry that it is ending. There is still so much to show and explore in the story.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: .Subha.

Ever since I got to know of Dharma's death,I felt this show is reaching it's climax.Dharma died too early and looks like the end of the evil 4 is also near.After they die,there's nothing else to show except the kalinga war.

I was actually thinking they will show the Ashok as Governor of Ujjain track after the wedding but they straight jumped to Dharma's death.

I think this show is ending soon.


i read the spoilers.. seems like the remaining week would be happening.. i hope they sort out the messy story line to bring back the show's earlier dignity... even I felt that despite a lot of fictionalisation in the pre leap story, it actually looked more historical in its treatment, unfortunately can't say the same for the post leap scenario

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