ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!! - Page 4

Originally posted by: capricornrcks

I'm relatively new to the soap world and had no preconceived notions about Saumya before the first episode. She's pretty enough to play Kaurwaki.But her characterization is very poor.What can she do with the shoddy stuff given to her? It is the CVs fault for introducing her on Day 1 and then foisting her on the viewers EVERY day.Without fail.And that atrocious pink costume?The less said about it, the better.Women of that time had no compunctions about baring their midriff, you know.Since they're copying everything from Ashoka the movie, you'd think they'd copy Kareena's costumes too.Instead CAS Kaurwaki looks like a modern miss on her way to somebody's sangeet.

Right now Ashok's focus should be on getting back on the list of candidates to the throne.Picking up dirt on Sushim to show that he's a poor candidate to the throne.Making plans with Nayak to recruit an army of mercenaries.Sounding out Ahankara in Ujjain and Bhama in Taxilla whether Ujjain and Taxilla would support him etc.

Above all his burning rage at the injustice done to him and his mother.Instead he's killing time dreaming about Kaurwaki while waiting for Mata Dharma's permission.The real Ashok wouldn't be such a passive character.He would have been up to his nose in intrigue making use of his 'supposed' death.

Originally posted by: Somulove

Those who cannot stand Soumya Seth one free advise kindly skip her part or switch the channel. Very simple

Originally posted by: naturesk

Thanks for the advise, that is exactly what we have been doing lol 😆

Originally posted by: kaatayani

distortion is another thing and destruction is something else.. the CVs have destroyed the story.. the portrayal of both Ashok and Kaurwaki is faulty.. and they haven't developed Devi's character as of yet... the entire screenplay looks as if it is without any direction

Hence i call then DVs. 😆

This is my honest opinion.
First of all,before analysing the CAS AshVaki,let's have a look at the historical AshVaki.I love and adore the historical AshVaki.

Historically Ashok was a cold,ruthless and merciless king whose heart melted after he saw the horrors of the aftermath of the Kalinga War.The same war which he had waged for his own ambitions.
Historically Karuvaki was a brave and beautiful fisherwoman.Not a princess but a commoner.But her persona was so incredible that Ashok himself fell in love with her.
AshVaki loved each other,yes.But they were not lovesick.Ashok's love for Karuvaki did not come in between his ambition to annex Kalinga.And Karuvaki's love for Ashok did not stop her from fighting against him for her motherland.
And the most interesting part is how they rebuilt their relationship post the Kalinga War.
About who was his favourite wife and whom he loved the most,then I believe that he loved all three Devi,Karuvaki and Asandhimitra in different ways.All of them had influenced his life in some way or other.

Now coming back to our topic,AshVaki had feelings for each other no doubt.But they had other priorities too.It was not like they lived,breathed,ate,slept thinking about each other

In CAS,they had to introduce one of his future wives as his love interest undoubtedly.So,they opted for Karuvaki.That's not a problem.The problem lies with the characterization and the execution of the story.
And neither am I happy with the characterization of AshVaki post leap nor with the execution.
It's natural that they have feelings for each other post leap.But it would have been better if these feelings would have resurfaced when they met again.
Before they meet each other,it could have been shown how Ashok is dealing with himself and his ambition,thirst for power,bloodlust,etc.And Karuvaki could have been shown as a matured and powerful lady managing Kalinga,looking after the welfare of her subjects,dealing with Jaggu etc.

Then they would have met each other probably when Ashok visits Kalinga and that could have rekindled their relationship.That would have made it more realistic and the audience would have appreciated it too.

Instead AshVaki are shown as star crossed lovers separated by the cruel world who long to be reunited with each other.Doesn't that make it cliched?Why are they trying to project AshVaki as eternal lovers?AshVaki were a real couple and not a fairy tale couple.

As far as the actors are concerned,then the problem does not lie with Saumya.The problem lies with the characterization.I know that she has to improve in some areas but Saumya is doing as she is instructed to do.How will she showcase her acting skills when her character is written in this manner?? They have made Karuvaki's character so unidimensional.All she has to do is chant Ashok's name.If they would have explored the various aspects of Karuvaki's character then I am sure that people would have grown to accept and like her.

Originally posted by: ---Andromeda---

AshVaki loved each other,yes.But they were not lovesick.Ashok's love for Karuvaki did not come in between his ambition to annex Kalinga.And Karuvaki's love for Ashok did not stop her from fighting against him for her motherland.
And the most interesting part is how they rebuilt their relationship post the Kalinga War.

Now coming back to our topic,AshVaki had feelings for each other no doubt.But they had other priorities too.It was not like they lived,breathed,ate,slept thinking about each other.

Before they meet each other,it could have been shown how Ashok is dealing with himself and his ambition,thirst for power,bloodlust,etc.And Karuvaki could have been shown as a matured and powerful lady managing Kalinga,looking after the welfare of her subjects,dealing with Jaggu etc.

Instead AshVaki are shown as star crossed lovers separated by the cruel world who long to be reunited with each other.Doesn't that make it cliched?Why are they trying to project AshVaki as eternal lovers?AshVaki were a real couple and not a fairy tale couple.

👏 I can't agree more with your arguments.I have quoted pertinent parts of your post here.Ideally Kaurwaki should have been introduced after Sushim is killed and Devi leaves for Vidisha with the kids.Ashok would be feeling lonely and isolated what with his mother dead and his wife leaving him.Kaurwaki would have been like a breath of fresh air and would have infested him with a zest for life and initiated him into a new chapter of his life.And naturally they would clash about the Kalinga War.They both have strong personalities.And it wouldn't be just arguing just for the sake of it like it was in the Taxilla track. It would have been magnificent.Instead we get this travesty of star-crossed divinely blessed lovers.Why bring the Gods in the matters of mundane lovers?

sau baat ki ek baat...

Originally posted by: ---Andromeda---

This is my honest opinion.
First of all,before analysing the CAS AshVaki,let's have a look at the historical AshVaki.I love and adore the historical AshVaki.

Historically Ashok was a cold,ruthless and merciless king whose heart melted after he saw the horrors of the aftermath of the Kalinga War.The same war which he had waged for his own ambitions.
Historically Karuvaki was a brave and beautiful fisherwoman.Not a princess but a commoner.But her persona was so incredible that Ashok himself fell in love with her.
AshVaki loved each other,yes.But they were not lovesick.Ashok's love for Karuvaki did not come in between his ambition to annex Kalinga.And Karuvaki's love for Ashok did not stop her from fighting against him for her motherland.
And the most interesting part is how they rebuilt their relationship post the Kalinga War.
About who was his favourite wife and whom he loved the most,then I believe that he loved all three Devi,Karuvaki and Asandhimitra in different ways.All of them had influenced his life in some way or other.

Now coming back to our topic,AshVaki had feelings for each other no doubt.But they had other priorities too.It was not like they lived,breathed,ate,slept thinking about each other

In CAS,they had to introduce one of his future wives as his love interest undoubtedly.So,they opted for Karuvaki.That's not a problem.The problem lies with the characterization and the execution of the story.
And neither am I happy with the characterization of AshVaki post leap nor with the execution.
It's natural that they have feelings for each other post leap.But it would have been better if these feelings would have resurfaced when they met again.
Before they meet each other,it could have been shown how Ashok is dealing with himself and his ambition,thirst for power,bloodlust,etc.And Karuvaki could have been shown as a matured and powerful lady managing Kalinga,looking after the welfare of her subjects,dealing with Jaggu etc.

Then they would have met each other probably when Ashok visits Kalinga and that could have rekindled their relationship.That would have made it more realistic and the audience would have appreciated it too.

Instead AshVaki are shown as star crossed lovers separated by the cruel world who long to be reunited with each other.Doesn't that make it cliched?Why are they trying to project AshVaki as eternal lovers?AshVaki were a real couple and not a fairy tale couple.

As far as the actors are concerned,then the problem does not lie with Saumya.The problem lies with the characterization.I know that she has to improve in some areas but Saumya is doing as she is instructed to do.How will she showcase her acting skills when her character is written in this manner?? They have made Karuvaki's character so unidimensional.All she has to do is chant Ashok's name.If they would have explored the various aspects of Karuvaki's character then I am sure that people would have grown to accept and like her.

Well said. 👏

I never liked Soumya to be honest but in CAS I am not even blaming her. Because for me the love story or chemistry doesn't matter for now. All I want to see is what happened to Ashok these 10 years away from Magadh. What did he do ? Did he just sit and wait everything to come back to him ? The real Ashok would certainly not do that ? I wanted to see his plannings to go back to Magadh for the throne. I wanted to see his anger. The way he and his mom were thrown out, anyone would go mad. I was thinking that his only goal would be taking revenge from all the enemies. I don't think anyone of us is against the love story but right now is not the right time. He has much more to think about than Kaurwaki. I think Kaurwaki should have entered two or three months later. At teast till he goes back to Magadh for the throne.

We all are not even bashing the actress but her fans have gone crazy on this forum. Have y'all seen the alternate thread?😆

Originally posted by: Kryztal

We all are not even bashing the actress but her fans have gone crazy on this forum. Have y'all seen the alternate thread?😆

The characterization of Kaurvaki has been poorly done by CVs (or DVs as we are calling them). They have reduced one of the most prominent king of Ancient India to a love sick romeo and it's making me mad!😡 Young Ashoka was more chand than this one. I am pretty sure CVs have decided that they won't follow history and will make their own crappy one.😡😡