Meet Dua padukone Singh!! - Page 12

Originally posted by: zara321

i used to study with a girl called sonam, both her parents are muslim and pakistani, and sonam is a hindu name, they chose it because they just liked the name.

Was she born and named Sonam before Sonam Kapoor became an actress? Because I can't imagine anyone naming their child Sonam now because everyone associates that name with Sonam Kapoor. And nobody is going to want to name their child after that Sonam lol.

Originally posted by: IAmLuvBolly

I didn’t know that that Sameer and Kamal were also Hindu names. I thought the Hindu name was Komal, or is that a completely different name?

Sameer is also an Arabic name and very common among Muslims in Arab countries. Its feminine, Sameera is common for girls even among non-Arab Muslims. It’s official meaning is joyful friend, though I have also heard it’s derived from description of a dark/wheat complexion, “Asmar”. Both could be true.

I'm the opposite. I didn't know Sameer and Kamal were also Muslim names. I've only ever heard of them as Hindu names. Actually that reminds me that Salman's character in HDDCS was named Sameer and he's supposed to be Christian in that film. So I guess it can also be a Christian name

I have heard of Sameera as an Arabic name so I guess it makes sense that the male version would be Sameer.

Originally posted by: Kyahikahoon

Ishaan is one of Lord Shiva’s names

Thank you for explaining. I'm learning a great deal from this thread. It shows how deeply connected all these faiths and cultures are, even just through names. So much division for no reason, so this is a nice reminder that most of these divisions are man-made. Reminds me of Bajirao Mastani when Deepika's Mastani is attacked for wearing green instead of saffron. And she explains that religion may have colors but colors have no religion. That saffron is used to cover the tombs of fakirs and green is used to decorate Durga.

Originally posted by: blue-ice.1

I was talking about the practical aspect and you may like to deny it but it will be a problem.....and no a normal child would not be able to choose the surname in normal circumstances....

Feminism is very good ....misdirected feminism is not.....the problem with modern feminism is not focusing where it is needed and getting entangled in trivial issues...like name....yes it is trivial....Dua would grow up how her parents raise her.....her surname will have zero effect on what she will be........Empower the women.....that is what will change the lives of women....not her surname.....

Again, I repeat if name is trivial issue why women go through all paperwork to change it? It is not at all misdirectional feminism. It is a part of entire ecosystem. You can’t change one and ignore other things. Every small gesture, every samll thing matter as trivial as you think about name issue. It is about identity and choice of women, passing on your culture and name of family.

I tell you why it matters. Let’s talk about interfaith, inter caste marriages in India. When you just adopt one name, one culture you are eliminating and distancing yourself from your mothers family, culture traditions. That’s why you see these extremist when they are okay with other faith women marrying their faith man but not vice Versa ex Hindus get escalated when Muslim woman marries Hindu guy but if Hindu woman marries Muslim man, they are upset and sometimes also start violence. Same case with Muslims. Do you understand why this happens? Because everyone knows women’s faith, name doesn’t matter. She adopts her husbands. Do you know what it gives rise to, radicalism, no diversity, and honour killing when women makes choices and also female foeticide?

It’s okay to disagree but calling it misdirectional feminism, and trivial issue is not at all right. Many academicians, philosophers have studied and talked about these things. Symbolism also matters, setting example matters.

Originally posted by: prerna4rishav

In my family one of my closest relatives tried this 3 word names and gave up in 2 yrs when they had to apply for their kid’s passport. It does make the kid’s life complicated.

Dont want to brag how smart I am, but finding a guy with my same surname was one of the key criterias of my life to avoid all these problems without losing my very strong feminist streak.

How is it different than women adding husbands surname to theirs after marriage.

I have known people who have done this to their kids and never had problem. People also do something like one parents first name as middle name and other parents as last name depending on what parents wants to pass on.

Originally posted by: TorinoPasta

Famous cricketers like Sachin Tendulkar's daughter name is Sara, Saurav Ganguly's daughter's name is Sana. Both Sachin and Saurav are Hindus and have Hindu wives. It is the other way round , I have never heard Muslim celebs give their children Hindu names.

Sara is not really a Muslim name. It’s also a western name. I see many girls name Sara in US. Some people in general name their kids Hindu and Christian. I am Muslim but I have some cousins name that have Hindu like Probol, Anandita, Shuvo, Sashi and Sudipta. I have a family friend that named their sons Anthony and Alex.

Once Saif had told he may change Taimur s name if the child wants to n future.

Originally posted by: kankabhor

Again, I repeat if name is trivial issue why women go through all paperwork to change it? It is not at all misdirectional feminism. It is a part of entire ecosystem. You can’t change one and ignore other things. Every small gesture, every samll thing matter as trivial as you think about name issue. It is about identity and choice of women, passing on your culture and name of family.

I tell you why it matters. Let’s talk about interfaith, inter caste marriages in India. When you just adopt one name, one culture you are eliminating and distancing yourself from your mothers family, culture traditions. That’s why you see these extremist when they are okay with other faith women marrying their faith man but not vice Versa ex Hindus get escalated when Muslim woman marries Hindu guy but if Hindu woman marries Muslim man, they are upset and sometimes also start violence. Same case with Muslims. Do you understand why this happens? Because everyone knows women’s faith, name doesn’t matter. She adopts her husbands. Do you know what it gives rise to, radicalism, no diversity, and honour killing when women makes choices and also female foeticide?

It’s okay to disagree but calling it misdirectional feminism, and trivial issue is not at all right. Many academicians, philosophers have studied and talked about these things. Symbolism also matters, setting example matters.

OK seriously.....this is going to be my last reply to you.....because you are not just getting my point.....Its about being practical......you are now bringing interfaith marriages in this......do you think that in a normal interfaith marriage the couple is going to worry about the name?? There will be hundreds of other issues they will have to worry about....name will be the last......hence trivial.....this is why I called it misdirected.......because instead of focusing on other problems that would ACTUALY affect the life of the couple difficult ....u focused on the name.....which would not make an iota of difference in anyone's life.....

What suggestion do you have about how the kids should manage their mile long names after a couple of generations??

In my mind ...the men women thing was not even there.....I just thought about the practicality part....because I am not a feminist.....I don't look at things from male-female angle......I don't care if the mother's name is used as a surname.....for me personally....name is just an identifier....language is just a means for communication.....I don't argue over these TRIVIAL issues....

My concern is how does Dua deal with this when she is married and has to name her kid....that is all....you have a solution for that....bring it on..

Originally posted by: kankabhor

How is it different than women adding husbands surname to theirs after marriage.

I have known people who have done this to their kids and never had problem. People also do something like one parents first name as middle name and other parents as last name depending on what parents wants to pass on.

It is different. Once a woman adds another surname/middle name, it’s the end game for her in her lifetime. Think about the kid. This Malti Marie Chopra Jonas. How do you think this is gonna survive in MMCJ’s own generation when she marries someone or has her own kid with somebody. It just keeps getting added and it’s not practical or fair to the kid. Also, registering names or changing it is much easy in the US or developed nations, deal with it in India with Aadhar Card, Pan Card and Bank Accounts you’d see the real struggle.

Passport forms in India are already complicated, there are different instructions from different pages of the same website. Middle name can be your mother’s first name, father’s first name or mother’s surname. It’s not clear. But once you give something you’re stuck with it for life if you haven’t thought it through. Paperworks are real struggle for Indian middle class while rich people have it easier.

Aah what happened to my relative was, GOI office didn’t believe the wife still has different surname post her marriage, so they changed the surname of the husband to fit to wife’s surname.

All in all, these celebs also might be announcing these 3 letter names in SM or Internet, in official docs it might still be only First and Last Name.

Originally posted by: kankabhor

Again, I repeat if name is trivial issue why women go through all paperwork to change it? It is not at all misdirectional feminism. It is a part of entire ecosystem. You can’t change one and ignore other things. Every small gesture, every samll thing matter as trivial as you think about name issue. It is about identity and choice of women, passing on your culture and name of family.

I tell you why it matters. Let’s talk about interfaith, inter caste marriages in India. When you just adopt one name, one culture you are eliminating and distancing yourself from your mothers family, culture traditions. That’s why you see these extremist when they are okay with other faith women marrying their faith man but not vice Versa ex Hindus get escalated when Muslim woman marries Hindu guy but if Hindu woman marries Muslim man, they are upset and sometimes also start violence. Same case with Muslims. Do you understand why this happens? Because everyone knows women’s faith, name doesn’t matter. She adopts her husbands. Do you know what it gives rise to, radicalism, no diversity, and honour killing when women makes choices and also female foeticide?

It’s okay to disagree but calling it misdirectional feminism, and trivial issue is not at all right. Many academicians, philosophers have studied and talked about these things. Symbolism also matters, setting example matters.

@bold: exactly this! And this coming from women is even more disheartening.

Originally posted by: e1t53e

@bold: exactly this! And this coming from women is even more disheartening.

Don't be disheartened........I will fight tooth and nail on issues where women actually need empowerment and it will change their lives...trust me on that...I will do the same for men.....For me men and women are both shades of gray.....I actually care about the issues that affect their lives.....I just don't like wasting my time and energy on trivial issues.......I am explaining this to you because I actually like you....otherwise I don't care what strangers think about me....I have my own shit in actual life to deal with...