Allu Arjun leading Man and Ranveer the actor of the year by GQ India! - Page 14

Originally posted by: SteFanSalvaTor

I think in terms of dancing, from the current actors, Arjun is the best followed by Jr. NTR. Charan is behind them even though he is excellent too. Jr. NTR is trained in classical dancing and Arjun is dancing like this ever since he was born i guess, I like him the best because he literally did everything on a dance floor, such amazing foot work he has. The Badrinath songs are sick, he was not real 😲

I agree about Mahesh babu and Prabhas, they both are clumsy and bad on the dance floor.

I rarely watch south movies despite being a South Indian because I hate stalking , man handling and sexual jokes that are prevalent in most movies 😡

It was Baahubali that actually caught my interest in Telegu cinema and Prabhas - Anushka - Rana.

Malayalam cinema caught my attention after Drishyam 1 became hit and I was floored by The Great Indian Kitchen movie which portrayed reality.

I discovered Allu Arjun dancing skills recently after seeing videos here and I noticed my husband see Pushpa in Amazon Prime. I must say.. he’s so flexible and smooth in his dance.. I’ll say he’s equivalent to Hrithik Roshan and Prabhudeva as far as dancing is concerned.

Originally posted by: 1t1svat1t1s

In terms of privilege he definitely is at Alia and Ranbir level , if not above them. He literally has the entire country’s distributors and producers at his beck and call thanks to his superstar producer dad Allu Aravind. His dad usurped the careers of a couple of the then upcoming stars like Raja, Uday Koran etc to give space to his son. Allu Arjun definitely is a very talented actor now but he didn’t start this way and needed a lot of projects specially curated for him to reach to this level today. Same with Nagarjuna, Venkatesh etc. Hrithik Roshan is the one who is least privileged amongst these and there is no comparison between his journey and Allu Arjun’s.

And I would add/correct the following, looking at some other posts. The nepotism angle has been presented neatly, so nothing to add to it also.

1. Allu Arjun's debut Gangotri (03), was a blockbuster. Its collections were bigger than Parbhas' Raghavendra, Pawan Kalyan's Johnny, and Mahesh Babu's Nijam released in the same summer. AA crossed Gangotri's numbers with Deshamuduru (07).

2. Allu Arjun's journey is 100% similar to Alia or Ranbir at a higher level privilege-wise concerning the projects. All his films barring Naa Peru Surya, were with blockbuster directors or with directors who delivered a blockbuster previously. Its called Padding** among Telugu fans. This includes even a different attempt (considering industry standards) like Vedam that came after Gamyam.

3. Naa Peru Suriya is the ONLY disaster in Allu Arjun's career that was made with a debut director (the second one after Arya). Varudu is the ONLY flop. Happy, Badrinath, Iddarammayilatho are Bel-avg affairs. His success rate is staggering, the best compared to the rest of the Telugu stars. So, box office wise closer to Alia Bhatt than Ranbir. In either case (2&3) no comparison with Hrithik who was an overnight star and tier 1 hero from the debut.

4. The reason why there was/is no noise regarding the privilege is because everyone else floats on the same boat, and Allu Arjun is far lesser a star compared to them. Mahesh Babu actually gets called out for the same as an Alia or Ranbir. He is branded as a padding star**. Personally, I don't think it's wrong working in combo films; Chiranjeevi does that, Rajini does that, and so do many other Superstars, but then the combos have to set the box office on fire like those stars do. It didn't happen with Mahesh Babu, which is why the flak. His contemporaries Pawan Kalyan and Jr NTR (not age-wise) put records with far lesser combos. And Allu Arjun was nowhere near Mahesh Babu until recently.

5. There is no denying the hard work of Allu Arjun. But he wasn't a tier-one star, to begin with, despite a blockbuster debut. Despite his remarkable change in looks, he was still criticised very much as an actor and also for his looks. The perception changed only in the last few years. Again, it is all due to his hard work.

6. Allu Arjun is yet to give an Opening Week Record. His "First" opening week record in a territory (Nizam) came recently with Pushpa. Prabhas had them all with Baahubali. Now, AA is most likely to have them all with Pushpa 2. That would be in 2023, after his debut in 2003.

7. Given this track record, many feel Allu Arjun has been shoved down the throat. A padding star who wouldn't be where he is without the combos "curated" for him by his father. But, the "Mega" brand was too big to have an effect on him. His overwhelming hard work and sustained success have also helped him. He was like Alia Bhatt but at a lower level compared to the big stars. But, tables have turned now, and to show him as a "Superstar", a tier one star from the start, the new narrative of the Allu family/legacy is brought out.

8. The future looks perfect for Allu Arjun "now". He could be the dominating star from Pushpa -2 given his extraordinary PR/marketing team. Prabhas and Jr NTR are his only competition, especially the latter.

9. Charan will always be there, but he doesn't seem to have that passion to be number one. Prabhas too has same issue, but he is relatively on his own for a long time with no legacy issues, so it eases out pressure on him to live up to certain expectations. It helps in selecting subjects and, thereby, the box office.

Obviously not a fan of Allu Arjun 😉, but I am curious to see his star trajectory for the rest of the decade. He could be (or not) number one. He is ambitious and has all the machinery at his disposal. The Khans are old, and younger ones lack the "Masala Swag/Screen Presence". Right "now" he is the "Sixth" biggest star in TFI, though.

Originally posted by: MercurialMedusa

Fact is that Aravind worked as a producer before Chiranjeevi became his brother in law. And Chiranjeevi was known as this talented and hardworking upcoming actor. Not many know that Chiranjeevi was a trained actor not just random guy who started acting as a hobby. But both of them clicked when they got together. That's when Chiranjeevi became a superstar and Aravind became a star producer. They also stuck together coz of the caste politics that went on in the industry and in the process grew powerful. Nagababu didn't click coz he's simply not as talented as his brothers. Chiranjeevi and Aravind both tried a lot to prop him up Chiranjeevi even set him up a PH Anjana productions to settle him despite him having GA at his beck n call but Nagababu still did not click. PK when made his debut was marketed as the hero who is a well trained martial artist. Aravind made him do crazy stunts in his debut movie got him ANR's granddaughter as his co-star (huge deal in those days) and to top it Chiranjeevi had this crazy fan following by then who blindly backed kalyanbabu who was said to be like a son to Chiranjeevi n very close to him. So I will stick by what I said. It is Aravind who curated the stardom of Chiranjeevi,PK,Arjun and to an extent Charan as we know it today. To his credit he seems to be astute enough to bet only on lambi race ke ghode and not on lame horses even if that lame horse is his own son.

Maybe Allu Sr and Jr made Sr NTR go into politics, to make Chiranjeevi Superstar 😃. I mean, it's also a fact that Sr NTR retired from movies right around the same time. If only facts were anything that we believed in.

Yea, Allu Aravind worked as producer for a banner that didn't produce any movies for four years after its launch with two movies. And then made one movie with Chiranjeevi two years after marriage.

Another 'Fact' Chiranjeevi's first blockbuster on Geetha Arts was his Fifth outing (in 1987). Among the rest, only one is a hit. I can go on with facts, the directors who made Chiranjeevi Superstar, the producers who gave the biggest hits to him, and so on, but that's not necessary, I guess, when someone has already fixated on something to be true and don't see an alternate to it.

P.S. BOLD - And made Chiranjeevi stop doing movies that year 😳

I’m really confused, so it means Allu Arvind isn’t the only reason for Allu Arjun, Chiranjeevi or any of the mega stars to be superstars right? That’s what I’ve been saying, the debate is interesting though, I don’t know much about the industry as a whole, but I know that when I started watching telugu films, or most of my friends, we liked Arjun and we didn’t know about him being a part of the mega family. But it’s nice to know that the family legacy goes beyond decades and also will probably continue, also Charan will never have kids so next generation it’ll be Allu’s kids and probably Chiranjeevi’s daughters’ kids in the industry 😆

For the love of god I’m just glad, Pushpa isn’t a geetha arts movie. Otherwise people would say daddy made him into pan India star 😆

Originally posted by: simplyrdb

Maybe Allu Sr and Jr made Sr NTR go into politics, to make Chiranjeevi Superstar 😃. I mean, it's also a fact that Sr NTR retired from movies right around the same time. If only facts were anything that we believed in.

Yea, Allu Aravind worked as producer for a banner that didn't produce any movies for four years after its launch with two movies. And then made one movie with Chiranjeevi two years after marriage.

Another 'Fact' Chiranjeevi's first blockbuster on Geetha Arts was his Fifth outing (in 1987). Among the rest, only one is a hit. I can go on with facts, the directors who made Chiranjeevi Superstar, the producers who gave the biggest hits to him, and so on, but that's not necessary, I guess, when someone has already fixated on something to be true and don't see an alternate to it.

P.S. BOLD - And made Chiranjeevi stop doing movies that year 😳

You know so much about the older telugu folks too, it’s interesting to read though. Do you think bring his Son affected Charan’s career in a negative way? As you said, I agree with you that I don’t see Charan being the number 1 or he doesn’t even try to?

Originally posted by: Swetha-Sai

I rarely watch south movies despite being a South Indian because I hate stalking , man handling and sexual jokes that are prevalent in most movies 😡

It was Baahubali that actually caught my interest in Telegu cinema and Prabhas - Anushka - Rana.

Malayalam cinema caught my attention after Drishyam 1 became hit and I was floored by The Great Indian Kitchen movie which portrayed reality.

I discovered Allu Arjun dancing skills recently after seeing videos here and I noticed my husband see Pushpa in Amazon Prime. I must say.. he’s so flexible and smooth in his dance.. I’ll say he’s equivalent to Hrithik Roshan and Prabhudeva as far as dancing is concerned.

I know some movies can be really toxic and test your patience. If you want to watch nice and feel good movies of Allu Arjun, then watch Happy, Arya, Parugu and even Race gurram, you’ll really enjoy. Happy and Arya are going to be special ❤️

I agree with you, he’s effortless and at times I feel he doesn’t have bones. I personally feel both Arjun and Hrithik are more complete and superior dancers to Prabhu deva, Prabhu is highly skilled and amazing on the floor but I think to make a song truly iconic you need more than that. I think Allu Arjun and Hrithik can just stand in a song and still give butterflies in the stomach, at times they don’t need to do high octane dance 😆

Since you like watching his songs, here’s one for you. 😳, not too much dancing but still he owns the screen.


https://youtu.be/Pc_N1Sfw1IM

Originally posted by: simplyrdb

Maybe Allu Sr and Jr made Sr NTR go into politics, to make Chiranjeevi Superstar 😃. I mean, it's also a fact that Sr NTR retired from movies right around the same time. If only facts were anything that we believed in.

Yea, Allu Aravind worked as producer for a banner that didn't produce any movies for four years after its launch with two movies. And then made one movie with Chiranjeevi two years after marriage.

Another 'Fact' Chiranjeevi's first blockbuster on Geetha Arts was his Fifth outing (in 1987). Among the rest, only one is a hit. I can go on with facts, the directors who made Chiranjeevi Superstar, the producers who gave the biggest hits to him, and so on, but that's not necessary, I guess, when someone has already fixated on something to be true and don't see an alternate to it.

P.S. BOLD - And made Chiranjeevi stop doing movies that year 😳

Curating stardom doesn't only mean producing movies for them.

Anyways you bringing NTR's retirement makes no sense to me. Are you implying just because NTR retired Chiranjeevi became a superstar? If that's what you trying to say then I disagree to it.

And regarding him stopping chiranjeevi from releasing movies the year PK made his debut then am sure that is what they collectively decided so that the fans warm up to the son like younger brother!

Originally posted by: SteFanSalvaTor

I’m really confused, so it means Allu Arvind isn’t the only reason for Allu Arjun, Chiranjeevi or any of the mega stars to be superstars right? That’s what I’ve been saying, the debate is interesting though, I don’t know much about the industry as a whole, but I know that when I started watching telugu films, or most of my friends, we liked Arjun and we didn’t know about him being a part of the mega family. But it’s nice to know that the family legacy goes beyond decades and also will probably continue, also Charan will never have kids so next generation it’ll be Allu’s kids and probably Chiranjeevi’s daughters’ kids in the industry 😆

For the love of god I’m just glad, Pushpa isn’t a geetha arts movie. Otherwise people would say daddy made him into pan India star 😆

What makes you say Charan will never have kids? 😕 Anyways the Allu/Konidela and their extended families put together have around 12-13 actors in which 7-8 are legit "heroes" and now Allu family is establishing their own studios so their dominance on the industry is going to continue for a long long time. Also now the caste balance is also heavier on their side which was not the case when Chiranjeevi started off.

Originally posted by: MercurialMedusa

What makes you say Charan will never have kids? 😕 Anyways the Allu/Konidela and their extended families put together have around 12-13 actors in which 7-8 are legit "heroes" and now Allu family is establishing their own studios so their dominance on the industry is going to continue for a long long time. Also now the caste balance is also heavier on their side which was not the case when Chiranjeevi started off.

Charan and his wife decided to not have kids, I think I heard one of his talks where he said he supported the idea and this was a decision made by his wife and he’ll support her and respect her choice.

Yeah, anyway the legacy will continue, and most of their kids will be in movies but obviously only few will succeed, it’s more like they’ll have competition in their own family.

Originally posted by: SteFanSalvaTor

Charan and his wife decided to not have kids, I think I heard one of his talks where he said he supported the idea and this was a decision made by his wife and he’ll support her and respect her choice.

Yeah, anyway the legacy will continue, and most of their kids will be in movies but obviously only few will succeed, it’s more like they’ll have competition in their own family.

Arey nahi they were misquoted. His wife said they don't want children currently but that was interpreted as they don't want kids at all. In same sadguru interview his wife said Charan's mom keep asking them to have kids.

Edited to add in the coming years their family nepo bachchas are going to be the worst victims of nepotism as they would run out of options to pair up as everyone would be related to them 😆 Bolly equivalent would be Sonam aur uske bhai behen..