Baba going to find a Special Flower for his Booboo - Page 2

Woh bahut special phool hai, woh kabhi marta nahi hai, bilkul meri pyaar ki tarah.

Woh phool also imaginary hai, toh usey dhoondne ke bahane Mujhe ghar waapis nahi jana padega.😎

Mele babu ko flowel kaisa laga? 😍😍😍

I will buy plastic flowers for you, so they don't die, just like my love for you

Originally posted by: M.Wheeler

Well, Bhim-Drau s flower incident was much more nuanced than that.

I love that particular story in Vana Parva for what we can find out under the garb of bhim getting a flower for his wifey. The partnership and their utmost trust in each other is a chef s kiss.

If you as me their entire relationship was a chef s kiss.

Ok Now I am done gushing about them 😆

I appreciate the fact that Ranveer is so supportive of his wife during a crisis- and otherwise. Deepu having had depression previously needs that unstinting support. May they always have that love in their life. But it cannot be denied that they play up their relationship for the general public -a lot. It's the norm for actor couples these days.

As for Bhima-Draupadi, she always seems to remember him during a crisis. And he's always been supportive when her other husbands have washed hands off her sorrows. She tried hard to be balanced in her love for her 5 husbands. But it is Arjuna who's her favorite.

Originally posted by: capricornrcks

I appreciate the fact that Ranveer is so supportive of his wife during a crisis- and otherwise. Deepu having had depression previously needs that unstinting support. May they always have that love in their life. But it cannot be denied that they play up their relationship for the general public -a lot. It's the norm for actor couples these days.

As for Bhima-Draupadi, she always seems to remember him during a crisis. And he's always been supportive when her other husbands have washed hands off her sorrows. She tried hard to be balanced in her love for her 5 husbands. But it is Arjuna who's her favorite.

No, Arjun was not her favorite. That is just another exaggerated fanfictional version. Neither was bhim always supportive of her. I love their dynamic. I think they made a great team . Bhim was certainly better of the lot but he did let her down plenty of times

Originally posted by: capricornrcks

I appreciate the fact that Ranveer is so supportive of his wife during a crisis- and otherwise. Deepu having had depression previously needs that unstinting support. May they always have that love in their life. But it cannot be denied that they play up their relationship for the general public -a lot. It's the norm for actor couples these days.

As for Bhima-Draupadi, she always seems to remember him during a crisis. And he's always been supportive when her other husbands have washed hands off her sorrows. She tried hard to be balanced in her love for her 5 husbands. But it is Arjuna who's her favorite.

She never said Arjuna was her favorite. Yudhishtira said that as the reason for her fall. That was his insecurity, not her thought.

In fact, Panchali taunted Arjuna at many instances about basically being useless. Debroy sir, who translated CE, in fact comments on the dichotomy in his preface.

Nor did Panchali go to Bheema for help except in Keechaka incident. The flower episode was different from what's depicted in shows. It was saugandhika with lapis lazuli stalks. Lapis lazuli is a gemstone rock. Flowers don't have gemstone rocks for stalk. Saugandhika is also the name for a type of emerald. Panchali saw emerald rocks and asked Bheema to go and check. Bheema found out Kubera and group had a gemstone mine. He basically slaughtered them and took the loot back down. They were building a war chest. Bit brutal, but those were the times.

Panchali actually went to Virat and Yudhishtira for help with Keechak. When Yudhishtira basically told her to go and do what Keechak wanted, she went to Bheema. He was the one best equipped to handle Keechaka.

After the deaths of upa Keechakas, Arjun came to ask what happened. Panchali mocked him to the point he sulked like a school child.

Bheema was the one who made the silly vow about Dusshasan. Bheema jumped in front of all the demons on his own. Panchali did not even have to ask for help. In fact, there's even a part where Bheema asked Arjuna to step aside so he could make up for what he did in the dice hall. Bheema was on a 13-year guilt trip.

While we are at it, Panchali never made any ridiculous vow about her hair. Her braided hair is mentioned twice in vana parva.

After the war, she called all five brother lunatics who should have been locked up.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

She never said Arjuna was her favorite. Yudhishtira said that as the reason for her fall. That was his insecurity, not her thought.

In fact, Panchali taunted Arjuna at many instances about basically being useless. Debroy sir, who translated CE, in fact comments on the dichotomy in his preface.

Nor did Panchali go to Bheema for help except in Keechaka incident. The flower episode was different from what's depicted in shows. It was saugandhika with lapis lazuli stalks. Lapis lazuli is a gemstone rock. Flowers don't have gemstone rocks for stalk. Saugandhika is also the name for a type of emerald. Panchali saw emerald rocks and asked Bheema to go and check. Bheema found out Kubera and group had a gemstone mine. He basically slaughtered them and took the loot back down. They were building a war chest. Bit brutal, but those were the times.

Panchali actually went to Virat and Yudhishtira for help with Keechak. When Yudhishtira basically told her to go and do what Keechak wanted, she went to Bheema. He was the one best equipped to handle Keechaka.

After the deaths of upa Keechakas, Arjun came to ask what happened. Panchali mocked him to the point he sulked like a school child.

Bheema was the one who made the silly vow about Dusshasan. Bheema jumped in front of all the demons on his own. Panchali did not even have to ask for help. In fact, there's even a part where Bheema asked Arjuna to step aside so he could make up for what he did in the dice hall. Bheema was on a 13-year guilt trip.

While we are at it, Panchali never made any ridiculous vow about her hair. Her braided hair is mentioned twice in vana parva.

After the war, she called all five brother lunatics who should have been locked up.

Bheem and Krishna both .As Krishna later ends up confessing to sanjaya that he still feels guilty for not being there for Panchali.Also drisht

That is why Panchali s dynamics with these three men stand out

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

She never said Arjuna was her favorite. Yudhishtira said that as the reason for her fall. That was his insecurity, not her thought.

In fact, Panchali taunted Arjuna at many instances about basically being useless. Debroy sir, who translated CE, in fact comments on the dichotomy in his preface.

Nor did Panchali go to Bheema for help except in Keechaka incident. The flower episode was different from what's depicted in shows. It was saugandhika with lapis lazuli stalks. Lapis lazuli is a gemstone rock. Flowers don't have gemstone rocks for stalk. Saugandhika is also the name for a type of emerald. Panchali saw emerald rocks and asked Bheema to go and check. Bheema found out Kubera and group had a gemstone mine. He basically slaughtered them and took the loot back down. They were building a war chest. Bit brutal, but those were the times.

Panchali actually went to Virat and Yudhishtira for help with Keechak. When Yudhishtira basically told her to go and do what Keechak wanted, she went to Bheema. He was the one best equipped to handle Keechaka.

After the deaths of upa Keechakas, Arjun came to ask what happened. Panchali mocked him to the point he sulked like a school child.

Bheema was the one who made the silly vow about Dusshasan. Bheema jumped in front of all the demons on his own. Panchali did not even have to ask for help. In fact, there's even a part where Bheema asked Arjuna to step aside so he could make up for what he did in the dice hall. Bheema was on a 13-year guilt trip.

While we are at it, Panchali never made any ridiculous vow about her hair. Her braided hair is mentioned twice in vana parva.

After the war, she called all five brother lunatics who should have been locked up.

The five brothers certainly quarreled amongst themselves. Something which none of the TV series show. Like the time Yudhishthira taunted Arjuna for being scared of Karna and called him a coward. And Arjuna was just about ready to murder him for insulting his Gandheeva.

As for Draupadi, she was certainly on the forefront calling for war whenever Yushishthira was dilly dallying. She ended up paying a heavy price for her vengeance - her father, brothers and sons. Her husbands and their cousins might have been the direct agents of destruction. But she can't entirely wash her hands off. So I don't know how she can rationally call her husbands lunatics. But then grief isn't rational.

It is my opinion that Arjuna is her favorite, though she never specifically says so. The entire Swayamvar was rigged to play up to his specialties. Her father had wished for a daughter to get Arjuna as a son-in-law. She must have been brought up and convinced that she's going to be Arjuna's bride. The other Pandavs were a package deal. She certainly wasn't given a choice. Arjuna's trepidation when he brought Subhadra to Indraprastha, or her going off with Arjuna on a second honeymoon after his return from heaven all point out to her partiality -which all her husbands knew about.

Originally posted by: M.Wheeler

No, Arjun was not her favorite. That is just another exaggerated fanfictional version. Neither was bhim always supportive of her. I love their dynamic. I think they made a great team . Bhim was certainly better of the lot but he did let her down plenty of times

Well, that's the impression I get from the epic. I may have been persuaded by the fanfiction as you say. But with her being born specifically to fulfill her father's wish for Arjuna as a son-in-law, Arjuna's trepidation to bring Subhadra to Indraprastha (he had to resort to playing the Krishna card), her second honeymoon with him after his return from Heaven all gives cues to her partiality. He won her in the Swayamvar (one specifically tailored to HIS skills) after all. She's a Kshatriya woman and she's conditioned to accept the winner as her husband. The other four were a package deal she was forced to accept as a dutiful daughter and DIL. To give her credit she never gave that impression and did her best to be a good wife to all of them. But I think all her husbands knew about the matter. But Bhima was the only one who cared about it.

When did Bhima let her down -other than when Yudhishthira wagered her? He went with Arjuna to capture Jayadratha. He killed Keechaka for her. He even tracked down Saugandhika flower for her. He supported her in her arguments with Yudhishthira. He was totally besotted with her.

Originally posted by: capricornrcks

The five brothers certainly quarreled amongst themselves. Something which none of the TV series show. Like the time Yudhishthira taunted Arjuna for being scared of Karna and called him a coward. And Arjuna was just about ready to murder him for insulting his Gandheeva.

As for Draupadi, she was certainly on the forefront calling for war whenever Yushishthira was dilly dallying. She ended up paying a heavy price for her vengeance - her father, brothers and sons. Her husbands and their cousins might have been the direct agents of destruction. But she can't entirely wash her hands off. So I don't know how she can rationally call her husbands lunatics. But then grief isn't rational.

It is my opinion that Arjuna is her favorite, though she never specifically says so. The entire Swayamvar was rigged to play up to his specialties. Her father had wished for a daughter to get Arjuna as a son-in-law. She must have been brought up and convinced that she's going to be Arjuna's bride. The other Pandavs were a package deal. She certainly wasn't given a choice. Arjuna's trepidation when he brought Subhadra to Indraprastha, or her going off with Arjuna on a second honeymoon after his return from heaven all point out to her partiality -which all her husbands knew about.

1. She talks about justice, not vengeance. Throughout. She was even willing to give up war PROVIDED KAURAVAS REPENTED.

That's not vengeance.

She gives a whole TED Talk on crime and punishment and duties of rulers to punish criminals.

She was the finance minister of the empire and the citizen liaison, not just a figurehead.

Vyasa comes and agrees 100% with her. Unless we imagine Vyasa was also after vengeance, why is Panchali doing her duty as a working empress being seen as vengeance.

Once again, the silly vow about hair is nowhere in MBh. The vows about Dusshasana was taken by Bheema, not Panchali.

2. I assume Panchali, more than all of us modern women, would've known people die in wars. Am pretty sure she would've known there was a high chance her family could die. She went in prepared to sacrifice everything for justice.

And her sons and brothers were actually not killed in the war. They were slaughtered after the war by a genocidal maniac.

3. Panchali didn't call Pandavas lunatic from grief or regret over war.

She called them lunatics for refusing to do their duty after war and rule the darned empire. She specifically states she has no intention of dying out of guilt and preferred to go on living.

Vyasa once again came and agreed with her. He told Yudhishtira to donate something to the poor and get rid of the guilt and do his darned duty. The same thing Panchali was saying except she was a lot more blunt.

Side note: Vyasa was her biggest suporter IMO. Every time there was an argument with Yudhishthira, Vyasa would show up and support her. And Yudhishthira would have no choice but to follow orders.

4. Panchali didn't rig the swayamvara. So how was Arjuna her favorite?

As for her not knowing, there is a scene Vyasa describes to Drupada where Lakshmi, whose avatar she is supposed to be, is crying because she knows what will happen. If you believe these were normal people, then that was Panchali, who most certainly knew what was going to happen.

5. She wasn't brought up at all to be Arjuna's bride. She had her own father who she talks about in vana parva who actually taught her what she knew. That is part of the critical edition.

She was adopted as a fully grown woman by Drupada. Her description as a grown woman, not a young girl, is given in Mbh. So how is she brought up to be Arjuna's bride?

Southern recension even says she was married to Maudgalya before he cursed her with 5 husbands and left.

Also, Arjuna was a grown man when Drupada saw him for the first time. MBh specifically states Arjuna got fame after swayamvara. No one had heard of him until then. Ie, Panchali was also a grown woman.

Arjuna as her favorite is stated only by Yudhishtira.

As for opinions... well... we all have them. But only Panchali's will be valid in this case. She never said anything.

ETA. She does use the word pranaya in dialogue to one man in the epic. It was not to Arjuna. 😆

Originally posted by: capricornrcks

Well, that's the impression I get from the epic. I may have been persuaded by the fanfiction as you say. But with her being born specifically to fulfill her father's wish for Arjuna as a son-in-law, Arjuna's trepidation to bring Subhadra to Indraprastha (he had to resort to playing the Krishna card), her second honeymoon with him after his return from Heaven all gives cues to her partiality. He won her in the Swayamvar (one specifically tailored to HIS skills) after all. She's a Kshatriya woman and she's conditioned to accept the winner as her husband. The other four were a package deal she was forced to accept as a dutiful daughter and DIL. To give her credit she never gave that impression and did her best to be a good wife to all of them. But I think all her husbands knew about the matter. But Bhima was the only one who cared about it.

When did Bhima let her down -other than when Yudhishthira wagered her? He went with Arjuna to capture Jayadratha. He killed Keechaka for her. He even tracked down Saugandhika flower for her. He supported her in her arguments with Yudhishthira. He was totally besotted with her.

1. She wasn't born to fulfill Drupad's wish for Arjuna as son in law.

Drupada didn't even wish for a daughter.

Drupada wanted a son who could legally kill a brahmana. Ie, another brahmana with kshatriya training. Agni is Angirasa. Ie, brahmana Angirasa. Dhrishtadyumna and Krishna were adopted from the Angirasa clan. Hence, children of Agni.

Even if you don't want to believe that, Dhrishtadyumna had completed his warrior training and Panchali is described as a grown woman by the time they are adopted. Panchali came along as a get one free. Nothing to do with Arjuna.

2. Arjuna didn't play the Krishna card. He played the Subhadra card. Krishna wasn't even mentioned in the scene with Panchali.

3. What 2nd honeymoon? MBh specifically states he goes and sleeps with the twins after he returns from Indralok.

4. Bheema let her down during Udyoga Parva. MBh specifically states she was angry about it.