NCB gives clean chit to SRK's son - Page 18

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Uh no. OJ was actually taken to trial, and the JURY let him go because there was planted evidence in ADDITION to other evidence.

Here, the investigating agency, NCB, is admitting it NEVER HAD ANY EVIDENCE ON ARYAN. Not even enough to bring him to court. Not even enough to have him arrested in the first place. They also admitted the investigation team messed up. Big difference.

no yourself.😉 You don't need a smoking gun to arrest someone. You might be in a crime scene looking shady and you can be arrested and picked up. Its for the courts to later set you free if they file charges. So that's how it works, the cute differences you found there notwithstanding.😵

coming to what they found on him, one set of NCB officers had found reason to arrest him. Another set now says the first set of officers did not have grounds for arrest. It should remind us of Salman Khan. He was the driver that ran his car over poor people sleeping on the pavement. In due time, it was "revealed" he was not the driver. Sure. Innocent in the legal sense... because some witnesses suddenly turned hostile and others just got amnesia. 😆

bottom-line, in our country, very few politicians, and very few of the rich and powerful ever do time. You'd think we were crime-free, drug-free.😆

oh by the way, the same Delhi NCB that we are now lauding was notorious for going after rich kids in the 90s and 2000s. The problem is the NCB takes drug cases very seriously.

Originally posted by: Mahisa_22

BirdieNumNum: If SRK used his money, then Aryan wouldn't have spent one month in NCB custody. So, your argument doesn't make much sense.

Aparna: LOL, you cannot simply 'assume' that someone does something without any proof. That's hilarious.

look not saying he did it, so this is just talking hypothetically... but if he were to do so, he might not have been sure whether to trust the extortioner. He wouldn't want the case to get worse if he was caught bribing the officers. So i can easily see how it would have taken time. There's the money trail also that he would want to clear to ensure it was not traceable back to him. And after a while, there was so much heat on the case that it would have been risky to try.

in due course, when the public forgets and it inevitably does given its short attention span, that's the time to do it if at all. Thats how a lot of the politicians get out.

So sorry to disappoint you, but my argument made more sense than yours.😆

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

no yourself.😉 You don't need a smoking gun to arrest someone. You might be in a crime scene looking shady and you can be arrested and picked up. Its for the courts to later set you free if they file charges. So that's how it works, the cute differences you found there notwithstanding.😵

coming to what they found on him, one set of NCB officers had found reason to arrest him. Another set now says the first set of officers did not have grounds for arrest. It should remind us of Salman Khan. He was the driver that ran his car over poor people sleeping on the pavement. In due time, it was "revealed" he was not the driver. Sure. Innocent in the legal sense... because some witnesses suddenly turned hostile and others just got amnesia. 😆

bottom-line, in our country, very few politicians, and very few of the rich and powerful ever do time. You'd think we were crime-free, drug-free.😆

oh by the way, the same Delhi NCB that we are now lauding was notorious for going after rich kids in the 90s and 2000s. The problem is the NCB takes drug cases very seriously.

Nuh-huh, Bird. Aryan's case didn't get as far as the court because the NCB actually found there was no evidence of any crime and that the investigation team effed up.

It wasn't a random pickup, which they later decided was no biggie.

Nice try, though, equating it with first OJ, then Salman, where actual crimes were committed, and the accused were let off by courts. Here, NCB had NO CRIME to pin on Aryan or absolve him of. They couldn't take him to court without a crime.

The buying themselves off the hook scenario works only if there was an actual crime.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Nuh-huh, Bird. Aryan's case didn't get as far as the court because the NCB actually found there was no evidence of any crime and that the investigation team effed up.

It wasn't a random pickup, which they later decided was no biggie.

Nice try, though, equating it with first OJ, then Salman, where actual crimes were committed, and the accused were let off by courts. Here, NCB had NO CRIME to pin on Aryan or absolve him of. They couldn't take him to court without a crime.

oh but you are wrong. They did take him to court. That's how they got custody.😆And it was a court in Mumbai, an NCP/ Pappu ruled state that gave Aryan's custody to NCB!

you are also getting very technical now about there being crime in the Salman case and no crime in the Aryan case etc. You started by saying they could not arrest someone without due diligence. And i told you they can and they do that all the time. As another example, if they see women and guys outside a whorehouse, they will take them all in for questioning and maybe even file charges if they have any suspicion. Later they might release them. In this case, Aryan's friends had drugs on them... We can only surmise that someone made the call that there was enough suspicion to arrest him.

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

Is it possible to have this discussion without bringing in all the rear end talk? It's so down market, buddy😆

anyway, if you want to rant against the agencies, be my guest. While you are at it, you can throw in the police and even the judiciary under the bus for all I care. 😆All too often, they are corrupt. We have the Salman Khans, Spectrum Rajas, Chidambarans walk free. Apparently they are innocent because the courts set them free or guilt could not be proven. Afaic, they are innocent under a set of rules. Another jury, other judges, other cops, the same fellows would have been nailed. In other words, the system might be the best we have but it is not infallible. THE OJ example was given as illustration, though you missed the big picture.😉

as for attacking the BJP, you should know that law and order is a state subject. In many of the BJP ruled states like UP, violent crime and rapes and rioting have come down dramatically. If things are still bad elsewhere, go after those state govts. Making speeches here wont help😉

yes, NCB is technically under control of the centre. But the officers who man it are ones who have come up the IPS cadre system under mostly the UPA govts. But for sure, there are rogue officers in it, same as there are in any organization, in any country.

you also found this govt wanting because some officers screwed up on the SRK case. Sorry bud, a lot of other people in India have more important issues to contend with than whether SRK or his son are drug addicts and whether they were treated properly. 😉A lot of the country believes that the govt is doing a better job than the sorry alternatives we have... which is why it has been winning elections. In a democracy we need to go with that, not your pet peeves. Hope you don't mind.😉

crime hasnt gone down in UP. 100 BJP propaganda channels claiming it so doesnt make it true. But u r a BJP guy. So there is no point quarelling about it..

Also civil service officers are not chosen on the basis of their political leanings, so it doesnt matter if they were from UPA cadre. For all we know they could be BJP supporters deep down. They were complicit in BJP's witch hunt. That just makes them wrong no matter what.

An innocent boy was framed for crime he never did by People in power just because he was son of a famous MUSLIM superstar. Thats just the TRUTH.

The charge sheet filed by NCB does include a part of his admission that he has been consuming ganja on and off since the time he joined University in US.

He has been cleared of charges because at that time of arrest he didn't have anything on him. He was given clean chit regarding the drug trafficking part because they couldn't find evidence of that.

Indeed there has been history of consumption of narcotic substances.

Consuming narcotic substances is not criminal.

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

look not saying he did it, so this is just talking hypothetically... but if he were to do so, he might not have been sure whether to trust the extortioner. He wouldn't want the case to get worse if he was caught bribing the officers. So i can easily see how it would have taken time. There's the money trail also that he would want to clear to ensure it was not traceable back to him. And after a while, there was so much heat on the case that it would have been risky to try.

in due course, when the public forgets and it inevitably does given its short attention span, that's the time to do it if at all. Thats how a lot of the politicians get out.

So sorry to disappoint you, but my argument made more sense than yours.😆

So let's drop the 'hypothesis' until there's actual proof, amirite? 😉

Originally posted by: janakai

crime hasnt gone down in UP. 100 BJP propaganda channels claiming it so doesnt make it true. But u r a BJP guy. So there is no point quarelling about it..

Also civil service officers are not chosen on the basis of their political leanings, so it doesnt matter if they were from UPA cadre. For all we know they could be BJP supporters deep down. They were complicit in BJP's witch hunt. That just makes them wrong no matter what.

An innocent boy was framed for crime he never did by People in power just because he was son of a famous MUSLIM superstar. Thats just the TRUTH.

@ bold....crime going down in UP is a whole lot of BS..🤢..I am from Lucknow and my family still lives there and we know of all the horror stories coming out of UP...I wish some honest movie maker has the guts to make UP files too....Amit Shah said that UP is so safe that a girl can go out at 12 in the night safely....I am just hoping that no innocent gullible girl buys the lies and pays with her life..

@ blue...I believe SRK was being targeted for a long time for not bowing down and doing chaaploosi of this govt....his being a Muslim was just an added bonus...

Originally posted by: aparnauma

The charge sheet filed by NCB does include a part of his admission that he has been consuming ganja on and off since the time he joined University in US.

He has been cleared of charges because at that time of arrest he didn't have anything on him. He was given clean chit regarding the drug trafficking part because they couldn't find evidence of that.

Indeed there has been history of consumption of narcotic substances.

Consuming narcotic substances is not criminal.

This is as true as Aryan saying that he will give up drugs and make his Wankhede Uncle proud..😆..NCB had OUTSIDERS around Aryan....when they shouldn't have let an outsider touch Aryan with a ten foot pole...and here that BJP guy was holding Aryan's hand and taking him in the office....yeah whatever NCB told about Aryan must be true....🤣

Originally posted by: aparnauma

The charge sheet filed by NCB does include a part of his admission that he has been consuming ganja on and off since the time he joined University in US.

He has been cleared of charges because at that time of arrest he didn't have anything on him. He was given clean chit regarding the drug trafficking part because they couldn't find evidence of that.

Indeed there has been history of consumption of narcotic substances.

Consuming narcotic substances is not criminal.

Consuming narcotics in India is indeed criminal. They couldn't take him to court for it because there is no evidence BY THEIR OWN ACCORD.

And yeah, admission is evidence in court.

NCB itself admits no evidence. Ie, no admission.

P.S. That fake concern in the beginning... 😆 so obvious that the intent was to make it seem Aryan actually did something criminal despite the cops admitting they didn't have a leg to stand on.

How the heck can hatred affect a person so much that they are willing to be part of a lynch mob? How the heck can anyone not recognize THIS as a bigger moral failing?