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Posted: 5 years ago
#31

From what i have gathered krishna and drau friends best friend companion even soul mates so we should leave it at that there is no need to give brother-sister tag to every damn friendship


Plus its high time we start seeing mb characters as what they were normal human mortals and not some god incarnate trust me they are more relatable when considered to be one of us.

Aryavarth chronicles is one of the best interpretation of mb people should give it a try before judging its not half as "bad" or "disgusting" as people are claiming and is far far better than shit called palace of illusion

Edited by Poorabhforever - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

From what i have gathered krishna and drau friends best friend companion even soul mates so we should leave it at that there is no need to give brother-sister tag to every damn friendship


Plus its high time we start seeing mb characters as what they were normal human mortals and not some god incarnate trust me they are more relatable when considered to be one of us.

Aryavarth chronicles is one of the best interpretation of mb people should give it a try before judging its not half as "bad" or "disgusting" as people are claiming and is far far better than shit called palace of illusion


Prof Divakaruni was crying on Twitter a few months ago about sexual assault on women🤪. I mean, the hypocrisy! I think someone even said something.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Eh I will never understand such mentality.


Originally posted by: KootyPai

Yeah. He can never be a hero even if Draupadi actually rejected him. But I've seen a lot of people justify even her vastraharan because apparently she rejected Karna. Terrible people!!

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: MahanalayakKarn


Prof Divakaruni was crying on Twitter a few months ago about sexual assault on women🤪. I mean, the hypocrisy! I think someone even said something.


Well this something i have seen in most of the karna fans that i have interacted with they very convinently neglect karna s role in the entire incident which is most ofently either put on other characters or is deliberately minimised and justified by bringing in the swamywar incident. Yes hypocrite is word for them. Nothing new tbh.


Plus their obession with drau is hilarious she is treated as some sort of prize that was unfairly snatched from their idol. And that should now somehow be returned back to him. One the same reasons why there are so many books related to karna where drau is shown that be in love with him apart from POI we have kavita kane s "karna s wife " where drau herself justifies and sanatizes karna off his sins


Another most common narrative is that how drau regretted not marrying karna after the dice hall incident like why will say something like that is beyond me why will a woman regret not being married to man who gave the idea of stripping her naked in front the entire assembly who called her all sort of names and was enjoying her predicament

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Posted: 5 years ago
#35

Lol...all this argument on a fantasy book.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: MahanalayakKarn


Some of the same claim Panchali was proud, snob etc. WHERE? Or that she was in love with Arjun before swayamvar. Or that Arjun just oh, so coolly kidnapped Subhadra when it was Krishna who PUSHED him into it for mostly political reasons. Or that Karna was a do-gooder who made just one teeny, tiny mistake when in actuality he was part instigator of most of Suyodhana's evil schemes.

All these sanitized stories are from shows, man. People are mostly more complicated than that. Now as well as then.


We'll agree that none of the characters from Mahabharata are flawless. In fact it's their flaws which make them interesting, human and relatable. You seem to be offended by the fact I referred to Draupadi as proud. Yes she is. She's the only daughter of a powerful king.She was not born like other woman but was the personification of her father's hopes.Destiny had something great planned out for her.Of course she was proud of her position and knew very well what was due to her.I really don't why you see her pride as a negative point.Of course the wound to her self-respect/pride (whatever you want to call it) compelled her to seek vengeance -whether it be the Kauravs or Keechaka? I admire her spirit and pride.Too often women are expected to be meek like Sita and not passionate like Draupadi or Amba who speak out against injustices done to them.

Ditto with Arjun's many wives. He's a great warrior, a good friend,brother and husband and had a conscience to boot. That does not take away the fact that he was not a one-woman man. He's what he is. That was the custom of that time.


Originally posted by: MahanalayakKarn

Where oh where in the epic does it say this? Forget authors, even scholars have speculated why Krishna goes into whiplash frenzy whenever the assault on her is mentioned.


Shouldn't he be upset when his friend had to suffer that humiliation?And the venerated elders and her valiant husbands just stood there and let it happen. Especially since Yudhishtir seems oh so willing to let her offenders go scot-free?

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: arnavfluffy


In front of them their wife got sexually assaulted.. how is this not cowardly..?

in his 12 year thing, Arjuna literally marries and has kids .. he is supposed to be on atonement quest right..

And in the end how everyone falls down from that mountain except Yudhistir lol and he goes to heaven..

it felt like yudhishtir paid money and got mahabharata written lol


@bold : As someone mentioned, it is not there in the original Mahabharta. Also, it seems you do not know the entire story of heaven. That was the test of Yudhishtir. everyone including Kauravas go to Swarg at the end according to that story

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: capricornrcks


Shouldn't he be upset when his friend had to suffer that humiliation?And the venerated elders and her valiant husbands just stood there and let it happen. Especially since Yudhishtir seems oh so willing to let her offenders go scot-free?


Not to the extent he gets upset. Actually, even the Pandavas do not get that upset. Actually, even Panchali only says she wants the evil quartet dead. It was Krishna who promises total annihilation. There is also the moment of Karna's death which happens only days after Abhimanyu's death. Remember, the boy was shot from behind by Karna so Dushy's son could finish the job. The reasons Krishna gives Karna for the death sentence are eye-popping in that context. Do read the relevant passages.


See, the friendship may or may not have been more. My point was not to insist it was. At least, the relationship was a positive one, and speculation doesn't demean Panchali as a human (not as a wife). Karna, OTOH, organized a sexual assault on her!

Edited by MahanalayakKarn - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: capricornrcks


We'll agree that none of the characters from Mahabharata are flawless. In fact it's their flaws which make them interesting, human and relatable. You seem to be offended by the fact I referred to Draupadi as proud. Yes she is. She's the only daughter of a powerful king.She was not born like other woman but was the personification of her father's hopes.Destiny had something great planned out for her.Of course she was proud of her position and knew very well what was due to her.I really don't why you see her pride as a negative point.Of course the wound to her self-respect/pride (whatever you want to call it) compelled her to seek vengeance -whether it be the Kauravs or Keechaka? I admire her spirit and pride.Too often women are expected to be meek like Sita and not passionate like Draupadi or Amba who speak out against injustices done to them.

Ditto with Arjun's many wives. He's a great warrior, a good friend,brother and husband and had a conscience to boot. That does not take away the fact that he was not a one-woman man. He's what he is. That was the custom of that


Being proud/having a sense of self.worth and being proud in the context of caste/race whatever. She never showed any of the latter. That was the reason for the original comment IIRC. That she refused to marry a Suta. But then, she was willing to marry an apparently impoverished Rishi, caste unknown.


Also, she was nowhere the personification of her father's hope. THAT was Dhrishtadyumna. Drupad tells Yudhishtira he doesn't care which of the 5 marries her. Drupad doesn't even visit after the assault on her.


Did I say anywhere that Arjuna was a one-woman man? There are people who say he was a womanizer, and I was saying he was not. Ulupi was a ONS she forced on him. He never even acknowledged her as wife until after war. Chitra and Subhadra were political alliances much the same as Panchali.

Edited by MahanalayakKarn - 5 years ago

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