Why no RENTRAK in India?

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Why isn't RENTRAK ( what we have everywhere in UK , Europe, US) used to track Indian movie earnings?

It would be pretty simple then. Because they would ask distributors/producers to show the 'receipts'... so no 'fudging' can be done. And they are very professional. Everyone else uses them -or some other tracking sites similar to them.
RENTRAK collects the data then reports it to specialised sites, which in turn pay Rentrak for the service.
This way, if one site or other (those reporting BOI) tries to INFLATE or deflate some movies' earnings or distrib share - there would be other sites with data from RENTRAK to negate the wrong /manufactured data.
So you'd know pretty much what the Actual Budget, Distribution, Satellite rights (et al) are, how much a mmovie REALLY earned in National and International markets.Right now any rich star/producer can buy a site and promote it as the 'true' BOI collection site... and use it to pass on their own 'fudged' numbers as the 'correct' ones.

I mean the industry is bringing huge revenue I am sure they can afford RENTRAK - so as to not have biased ..'bought' sites that favor a star's movies over the other.


Also, with BW movies being shown more and more in the West ...and Western movies being shown more in India.. shouldn't a generally accepted body be allowed to asses results from everywhere?

It would also give a much fairer image of what works in regions, what works at National Level.
Comparisons betweeen BOI and Overseas takings could be done, trends and problems analyzed ...and then results given to producers - it would make predictives and trends easier to udnerstand/track.

****In US/UK we use Box Office Mojo that can be accessed by all to check movies' technical data and other stuff.. IMDB Pro has data too.. (thery also have contract with Rentrak) and that site has literally a HUGE database on most Western movies- but then, most Western PH have contracts with Rentrak or similar so there's no issues with the openness ( some still don't report true budget...but that can be easily deducted from articles also published throughout the production process and other leaks-those articles are also on the site.. on each movie's page)

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If there would be such body, we'd get rid of many of the arguments regarding total BOI .
Producers wouldn't be able to lie about takings.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Too many bubbles will be burst. No more success parties to fool the casual public.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Sanju used RENTRAK

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#BigNews: @comScore [formerly @Rentrak] is tracking India *theatrical* biz of #Sanju... @comScore is going beyond multiplexes this time and tracking a large number of independent cinemas and single screens too for #Sanju... Will be wonderful to see transparency in BO data...

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: shogun

Too many bubbles will be burst. No more success parties to fool the casual public.

Lol.. true.
But then each rich PH or rich star can get a site like BOI and start using SOME data from Taran , from BOI and so on.. but then slowly fudge numbers of movies they are interested in.. claiming those numbers to be the real one and making the movies sound like the great ones etc... or simply to add 20-50 -100 cr slowly towards its total ( deopending on budget)- that's to movies they want people to think that are ' hit'.

If you have 5-6 doing this ( I believe there's already 3 big names doing this).. then you get conflicting data...
It takes forever to actually find true info and that's a pity.. and that's not a good look on Indian market ( thinking of foreign investors that might try infuse capital in the movie biz or want to invest in a movie)
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Originally posted by: jb508

Sanju used RENTRAK

@taran_adarsh
#BigNews: @comScore [formerly @Rentrak] is tracking India *theatrical* biz of #Sanju... @comScore is going beyond multiplexes this time and tracking a large number of independent cinemas and single screens too for #Sanju... Will be wonderful to see transparency in BO data...

That is a good start ...but as you can see it's ' a large number'- meaning there is still no total transparency.. which is odd.. why would distributors hide? They should have laws that cover their losses ... or insurance.. and be actually HAPPY to give the data... considering they are getting paid for sharing the info.
ComScore/RENTRAK usually have access to ALL the cinemas (the cinema owners should be 'enticed' with some payments to all start doing this) - we live in the age of technology .. how hard is it to have screenshots of takings /ticket sold.. or some PC system in place to record takings daily...and then deliver the data ? ( From what I understood , the tracking companies also pay the distributors for sharing the data.. so they don't lose anything- on the contrary !)
Edited by MoonOrchid - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: MoonOrchid

That is a good start ...but as you can see it's ' a large number'- meaning there is still no total transparency.. which is odd.. why would distributors hide? They should have laws that cover their losses ... or insurance.. and be actually HAPPY to give the data... considering they are getting paid for sharing the info.
ComScore/RENTRAK usually have access to ALL the cinemas (the cinema owners should be 'enticed' with some payments to all start doing this) - we live in the age of technology .. how hard is it to have screenshots of takings /ticket sold.. or some PC system in place to record takings daily...and then deliver the data ? ( From what I understood , the tracking companies also pay the distributors for sharing the data.. so they don't lose anything- on the contrary !)


Actually I believe there were some single screens which still do not have the required infrastructure. They update according to the day's collections.

I live in Kolkata at present. Some single screens there still have counterfoil tickets. Not printed. The seat no.s are cut later after they get booked.


Infrastructure and systems are up to date when the capacity reaches that limit. Some have like 150 to 200 seats max. They have like 8 shows maybe. The crowd is also not online booking kind. 😳

Comscore is at a fledgling stage trying to track a major portion. It will eventually get there...BOI took heat with thugs and now its not giving verdicts anymore. Maybe these are signs of comscore era starting to take over. Movies like pk and sanju got the ball rolling for comscore.

Dheeraj rakkhiye. Acche din ayenge.😃
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