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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: cool-boy_018



The problem is that you think your opinion is all that matters. If you don't like a movie, you qualify that movie as bad content.
The reality is that what you may consider bad content may be perceived as good content by many other people. You didn't like Dhadak, many other did since it was a HIT boxoffice wise and on TV.


First of all not all all sources declared it a hit. There were many that said it did decent to average business. It was a semi-hit at most.

Secondly, almost every critic noted that the movie paled in comparison to Sairat, the original. These are people who are more knowledgable in terms of good content. Again, I am not saying they know more than the common man. But people can come into theatres for all sorts of reasons. For an example, the controversies Padmavati created helped it become a hit. People could have also come because Sairat was so well received beforehand. Maybe they came to compare. I am not saying my opinion is the end all of be all I'm just say that hit (even if it was one) does not equal good content.


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Posted: 6 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: grumpydwarf


First of all not all all sources declared it a hit. There were many that said it did decent to average business. It was a semi-hit at most.

Secondly, almost every critic noted that the movie paled in comparison to Sairat, the original. These are people who are more knowledgable in terms of good content. Again, I am not saying they know more than the common man. But people can come into theatres for all sorts of reasons. For an example, the controversies Padmavati created helped it become a hit. People could have also come because Sairat was so well receivedbeforehand. Maybe they came to compare. I am not saying my opinion is the end all of be all I'm just say that hit (even if it was one) does not equal good content.





Your links remind me of those people in football forum who used to give absurd links to prove their favorite was the best in the world.

How is Dhadak semi hit, when the link you posted has its budget as 40 and it earned 81. Unless definition of hits has been changed.


See their is a difference between expressing your view and forcing it with opinions and manufactured facts(the links you provided), especially when the discussion is factual one and not opinion bounded.



You didn't liked Dhadak and Jhanvi? Fine enough, no issues, even I didn't liked either.

Just because you or me saw it to see how bad it was compared to Sairat, doesn't mean 1.8 crore plus people who saw the movie also thought the same way and came to same conclusion.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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My links are mediocre because you decided so. Fair enough!

Secondly, I never forced my opinion down anyone throat. I just said that hit doesn't necessarily mean good content. Yes, it is subjective to some extent. But their have been plenty of hits in the past that not have had good content. I only made this point because everyone here was convinced that a hit necessarily means the movie was a good one. I just it necessarily doesn't mean good content . I never said 1.8 million thought that as well. You can stop putting words in my mouth.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: grumpydwarf

My links are mediocre because you decided so. Fair enough!

Secondly, I never forced my opinion down anyone throat. I just said that hit doesn't necessarily mean good content. Yes, it is subjective to some extent. But their have been plenty of hits in the past that not have had good content. I only made this point because everyone here was convinced that a hit necessarily means the movie was a good one. I just it necessarily doesn't mean good content . I never said 1.8 million thought that as well. You can stop putting words in my mouth.

Your links aren't mediocre, just that they aren't conclusive. Because they didn't followed the trade rules and made their own. Any movie which makes twice its budget is a hit. That is a basic rule, obviously when it is big budget, the rules change to the occupancy and trending. See if their point is they wanted it to earn 100 crores and it didn't, and hence it was disappointing, than it is a different point.

As for your second point, you literally started your post by saying that people wanted to see how bad it was, so I am not putting words in your mouth.
I don't have problem with you disliking the product as I didn't liked it either.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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From when did Cinestaan and Dailyhunt become legit box office websites?😆 And even if we believe it to be a legit site, how is a film having a budget of 40 Cr and earning 80 Cr not a hit?
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Paachaa

From when did Cinestaan and Dailyhunt become legit box office websites?😆 And even if we believe it to be a legit site, how is a film having a budget of 40 Cr and earning 80 Cr not a hit?



and it isn't even like they sold it to some distributor on high price and made loss.
As Zee it self distributed the movie.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Yeah, I think one of the reasons why it was a profitable film was because of Zee and Dharma's tight and well thought out budget planning for a newcomer film.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#38
Just watched some portion and it was bad. Jhanvi's acting is so poor. She isn't good in any of the scenes. Why does she keep her lips pouted throughout, that is so distracting. Her dialogue delivery is bad.
Ishaan is much better in acting and screen presence.


The story did not focus on main theme of caste conflict. Not even the earning money issue.They ruined the zingaat song too.

A poorly crafted movie
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Posted: 6 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: grumpydwarf

Maybe people wanted to see how bad of a rip off it was. Honestly, Dharma didn't at all do justice at the story. The original actually shows the struggle of two people without college degrees running away. They were living in slums. Here initially only Ishan's character was working. That too in a minimum wage type job. Still they could afford decent food and a roof over their heads? Dharma really needs to do more research on the struggles of the common man or poverty in India. That's was one of the many issues. Even the love story wasn't developed. It seemed like two harmonal teens who really didn't know each other developed a mutual attraction. No one would of thought of it as a serious relationship. Even the theme of caste issues and honors killings weren't fully addressed. They were major themes in the original.


And Jhanvi was especially bad. I really didn't feel anything at the end for her. Shows the lack of performance.


I watched it exactly for the same reason. No surprises there, the rawness and realistic appeal of the original was totally lost in the unnecessary chamak dhamak, and the spunk in the girl's character which made the original appealing was missing. The lovestory lacked depth and looked shallow.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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I think everyone knows how TV viewership works, no need to write essays on that. That Yamla Pagla Deewana crap is also on the list, but the movie was a disaster at the box office, so it proves that these TV viewerships do nothing much for a star. Yes, it brings profit to TV channels and producers, but not to the actor of the movie. Even if the actors become popular and gets more exposure, then also it's of no use because these poor folks don't have money to watch the movie in theater.

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