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Posted: 7 years ago
#21
Deepika's boyfriend was paid lesser than her in Padmavat.Deepika was paid more due to her popularity.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#22
What is "merit" in the film industry? Is it actual talent? Is it popularity? Is it past performance? The thing about merit is that conceptually it sounds nice, practical, and fair. However, when it comes to implementing merit-based reward systems it gets really hairy to define what merit is. You end up with arbitrary systems.
I think everyone in a movie deserves equal pay proportional to their role in the movie. Two leads = both leads get equal pay. An ensemble cast of six people = all six get equal pay. Tiered narrative with two leads and two sub leads = two leads get equal higher pay, two sub leads get equal slightly lower pay

This model is egalitarian, nongendered and is equitable to insiders and outsiders. (But it is by no means perfect or without flaws)
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Posted: 7 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: Kareenafanatic

The point people miss in these debates is the return on investment.

Bollywood isn't charity. It is a business. So, if Salman Khan is starring in a movie and say has the lead role. In a similar case, if Sonam Kapoor is in another movie in a lead role, do you think both of them deserve to be paid equally?

No? That's obvious, nah?

Salman Khan ensures a minimum return. Sonam Kapoor doesn't.

Then, we also have to factor the scale of the project. If the budget of the movie is 100 crores, the lead actor would obviously charge more than he would for a movie with a lesser budget. It's just a transaction.

Tomorrow, if there is a choice - in a dystopia - where producers could cast either Salman or Deepika in a role, but would have pay them 50 crores regardless of who it was. Who do you think is a safer bet? Who do you think will attract audiences? Who do you think will ensure that the movie is successful?

Unfortunately, for SJWs and keyboard warriors, this is something they prefer to ignore.

Film industry and sports are two areas where talent, reach, and branding are essential. Every football player will not get the same wages as Lionel Messi. Why? Should they ask for equal pay?

No again?

The reason is obvious.

The term here isn't equal pay but relative payment. It's not right for Salman to charge 80 crores whereas the female lead gets 4 crores. That would be ridiculous. But it does happen. How much do we suppose Jaquiline and Daisy were paid for Race 3?

Some actresses like Deepika and Katrina do receive significant amount and that has to do with their stardom and stature in the public's eyes. It's all about reach and branding.

For me, the issue isn't how much actors are paid or actresses must be paid equally.

The question is how much do writers, editors, cinematographers, etc. get in relation to the lead actor? Writers in India are notoriously underpaid. But nobody seems to be talking about that. Why?

If an actress is paid 8 crores for a movie, the writer of that movie would make 6-8 lakhs at most.

Why is that? And why is it that nobody is talking about it?

It's all framing and priming of agendas. A writer - who writes 5 successful movies - wouldn't even make as much as Jacqueline would by doing one single movie.

That's also why starkids all end up becoming actors. Because that's where the glamor and money is. Jhanvi has probably earned more doing Dhadak than Himanshu Sharma has writing Tanu Weds Manu series.

Forget about equal pay that stems from some social construct of gender balance; even merit doesn't get recognized in Bollywood. And it's not just India, although it's worse in India as compared to other cinematic cultures.

The real issues will never come out.


this pretty much answers all the issues lol
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Don't give me BS about merit being used to pay based on gender in BW. It is one more BS Bakhwas crap in BW like nepotism,.
Ranbir was paid 35 crores for Tamasha, apparently half the BO collections. Now this is something I read somewhere. Deepika was paid lesser and she arguably had the better BO then.

BW is worse than the real world. Only a few superstars are paid according to merit and deserve it.


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Posted: 7 years ago
#25
Merit in this case is

- market sentiment

- box office performance

- research around cinemas and what is audience talking about

- # of lanunday lapadays in the cinema and their reaction when hero makes an entry

-girls and their love and support for stars compared to lacklusture interest of boys in female actress ...exception are hot pictures

- producers own assessment

- input from cinema owners

- poor performance of actresses on their own and with a weak male lead like aditya chopra

- cheer one gets in award ceremonies

- people outside of home of superstars on festive occasions

all these indicate a market where actors are the driving force behind failure and success ...actresses are not

lol
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Justmoi

Don't give me BS about merit being used to pay based on gender in BW. It is one more BS Bakhwas crap in BW like nepotism,.

Ranbir was paid 35 crores for Tamasha, apparently half the BO collections. Now this is something I read somewhere. Deepika was paid lesser and she arguably had the better BO then.

BW is worse than the real world. Only a few superstars are paid according to merit and deserve it.



please refrain from using words like BS when referring to Mr Himmo or his opinions

u can use these words for others and they are free to react.


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Posted: 7 years ago
#27

Originally posted by: Justmoi


Shit is Shit. It stinks. Can't conceal it. BS is like that, BS. What is happening in terms of paying males who do not deserve it comes under that category. So concealing things behind euphemisms is not my style. I call it like I see it.


Well lets say there is a formula one race ...what will u bring to the race? a racing car. it can be good, it can be mediocre ..it can be mercedes or it can be haas... but u will bring an f1 car. not a rickshaw.

now please please dont come back with saying i called actresses rickshaw...u got my point

so yes ranbir flopped...but then ranbir gave a 350 crore movie as well

no one said actors will always deliver

unfortunately they are the ones who can deliver

i hate to say all this ..but merit and my research shows this..there is no actresses that can compete and bring money..

only anushka came close.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Risha--

Well, you're clearly a masochist who's here to simply argue and not have a healthy discussion about an incredibly important topic that's affecting millions and millions of women - and their families - all over the globe

I, unfortunately, don't waste my time with your kind. Peace out

one of my friend said the same yesterday. later, I got to know that he was so frustrated because someone had stolen his pocket money.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Film industry is different than regular jobs. There was a BBC woman presenter who was paid a lot less than her male counterpart even though she was more popular and experienced than him. That was wrong and BBC had to apologise and compensate.
Often it happens in life that competent women underestimate their worth while men in general overestimate their worth and therefore negotiate bigger pay packages in any field.
However some incompetent women want to ride on the coat tails of their male counterparts like those women cricketers Maithali who wanted some women in IPL so they could make phukkat ka money. It's SAD but TRUE no one wants to watch women's cricket not even the women so how can they demand equal pay.

Like women want to join the army. It's ok in naxal areas where naxal women are there who put sticks and stones in their vaginas and then claim that the armymen raped them and file false FIRs so that Armymen hands are tied for decades for court cases in Honourable and just Indian courts. So women CRPF can tackle them.
But women are not as strong everyone knows. Where were the women rescue workers doing heavy lifting during the recent Kerala floods? Absent right?

But this is not the case in the film industry. Madhuri Dixit was a superstar when she did HAHK so she was paid much more than Salman.

But anyway who will decide what? For Padmavati, Deepika was paid less than RS right? But sometimes they've to accept. What can be done? Anyway he's her boyfriend so she was ready to accommodate.

This is not politically correct but the truth and I'm sure liberals are outraged enough by now to pull out their hair again. 😆


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Posted: 7 years ago
#30
aare bhai social media ka daur hai...

zara si baat pasanad na aaye toh chauvinistic pig keh detein hain...

feudal lord keh dete hain...

logic say answer dete nahin...aqal ka fuqdaan hai..

liberal say yaad aaya...miss rager nazar nai aa rahein...kahin mujh se ladai kay baad forum toh nahi chor diya..

i wish her well.

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