The Ceaseless Chatter of a Deranged Imbecile - Page 2

Originally posted by: springkissed

We are all victims and victimizers at the same time. --- Agree wholeheartedly with this line.

Nice write up. I like your musings because they are introspective in nature. And I agree why the outrage when someone likes the movie that you don't like, or doesn't like the movie that you liked. This reminded me of anupama's review of befikre, she gave it 3.5 stars and comments on her videos till date keep bringing that up. And I never understood it. Just because she is a critic doesn't mean she can't not enjoy a movie that masses find unappealing for whatever reason or even her fellow critics do. While being objectives and critical mostly is dandy and all, but why not take in account the different experiences that people have while watching a movie. So in this case Anupama ended up enjoying the movie because it aspired to her sense of fun and enjoyment. I don't think she deserves the outrage that review brought her. Anyways, I'm rambling uselessly here, Idk if this even makes sense. 😆

Well I think the movie failed because it WAS a crap movie. I, for one, am a diehard romcom genre fan. I can watch the crappiest of movies and come off smiling. So I went with an open heart. I even took my hubby with me(forced). Needless to say that he was dozing off.. so were the other two guys(presumably forced by their wives too) and I ended up cheering my nails to figure out where exactly the chemistry was. I loved Anushka but sharukh by far was the worst in the movie. It seemed like he himself wasn't believing in his own character. Like you say, the soul wasn't there at all. Not to mention that the songs though ok when heard individually did nothing to move me in the movie. They had no connection at all and seemed random pieces of music intervowen in between.

Shal 😳

I really like reading your thesis on various stuffs but don't get offended, oh man this is such a lengthy post. 😆

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

wish I were more like them. I want to have fun and I want everyone else to have fun. But our idea of fun may not be the same. So as long as we each have fun, that's cool. Why be so bothered that someone else did not enjoy the same thing? I need to let go. You need to let go. We all need to let go and be more laid back.

This is really well written and I generally agree with the idea that taste is subjective. What works for you may not work for me and vice versa. I have said before, this forum always says all hits aren't good films and that's really true (although some stress on this more because their faves don't deliver hits but oy vey). That said, all flops aren't niche classics either. I feel the outrage about JHMS comes from the media and fan attempt to try to portray it as a misunderstood cult classic to some extent like it's often done for SRK's flops. Which gets tiring after a point. I feel rabid SRK protection in media and among his fanbase has given rise to such a bad reaction against his films. I remember being one of the few ones standing against his early bad films while people shut me out for daring to criticize his awful films (for me). But after a prolonged period of bad films and rabid defense, seems like everyone is speaking against his films, especially in India. I am sorry to have focused on one particular point in this article but since JHMS is the point of reference, I thought I will give it some context. Flops happen, people probably expected more from the Imtiaz-SRK association and ended up disappointed. Films are subjective too but this particular reaction isn't context-free. This is a build-up of several years of bad films. In our friend circle, even among the SRK fans, it's kind of an unsaid fact that SRK films are known to be average or bad. Younger people have grown up with his bad films only. So, they don't have the nostalgia to defend him and his films. This is what's happening in India, idk about anywhere else. Also, the complaints about people hating the film is a biased one because this forum is a prolonged fanwar. SRK groups are the majority here so the switch in narratives are pretty obvious. If JHMS worked, we'd hear the exact same thing, only from an opposite perspective where it will be informed that viewers matter, their genera perspective matters and so on. It's pretty obvious. Your energy is wasted in the middle of this prolonged fanwar between groups that change their narratives when suitable in my opinion. As a silent reader for a year, I have seen this happen constantly. Narrative switch when it works in the favour of the favourite. It is how it is. We all do it really.

Originally posted by: anonymous39

Agree completely with this. Why is there always so much outrage and anger over differing opinions? I was also one of the people that liked Befikre. I thought it was a fun, light-hearted romcom and I loved seeing Paris for the whole 2-3 hours. Why is there so much pressure to always have an opinion that agrees with the majority?

I'm seeing the same with JHMS. Most people hate it and they're allowed to but why are they so angry when someone doesn't? It's like these people come with pitchforks to demand that you agree with them and accept how bad the movie is just like they insist. There is so much insecurity even when it comes to majority opinions. It's just bizarre.

Everything is subjective and everyone is partial about something or other. ...

Agree with the mob mentality views. It's a sign of the times. If you notice, movies (or most things actually) are given a short period to be "un-judged". Then the majority opinion will come. It will either praise the things to the skies and hail it as the best thing ever, or trash it like it's the worst POS to have graced this planet. There is no middle ground.

I have wanted to tell you that many a times I have been influenced by your movie reviews in the reviews trhead and actually decided to watch that movie! You certainly have a way with words. Love your ramblings too for that matter. Keep writing!