Bahubali 2's success shows up the north's ignorance of south - Page 8

KK, our country is cash-strapped, to invest in machinery required for lingual translations at the moment, that too - there are simply too many central government offices.. I cannot begin to explain how they are in streets far away from main branch, it requires too much money which our government does not have.

Originally posted by: KhatamKahani

Wow. Way to miss the point. The point is paying for the imposition of Hindi which is put into that very own state to the detriment of its local language and locals. 🥱Of course pinne enthava pretheeshikan pattune?

Why don't you read it all before attacking? Working together to solve it. LOL. Only way it will be solved is by opposing Hindi imposition. If working together to solve it, then all those new directives within the past month alone wouldn't have come. Must only speak Hindi in parliament if one knows Hindi, then clarified as speak, read and write Hindi. What do you think further implementation of Hindi in education does? So if a South Indian minister knows how to read and write Hindi,they should be speaking in Hindi in Parliament. Other languages need to be taken permission before speaking in that language in parliament. Wow, woh.

The sectarian form which irks people is the imposition and people like you refusing to see it, and that's what's dangerous for the country. Not the calling for linguistic equality.

these are all recommendations not yet accepted .

parliamentary panel recommended making hindi compulsory. As per the recommendations along with english and regional language you have to learn hindi in schools affiliated by CBSE and KVs. . that is not for state government funded schools and not yet passed by the ministry btw. presidential order also asked the centre to consult with the states before forming any policy.

Originally posted by: KhatamKahani

And BTW, South Indians can pick up Punjabi. It's just a matter of belief that one can or cannot.

One of the prominent promoters of Punjabi language is a Kannadiga. Settled there, learnt the language and now teaches and promotes it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandit_Rao_Dharennavar

Raftaar is another example.

The idea again is India is a union. And to tell regions that their languages should be secondary, means that perhaps they shouldn't have been part of the union. It is called unity in diversity. There is no reason for this to not be implemented now.

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>haven't spoken to anyone in weeks
>completely alone on a bright monday morning
>can't even get out of bed
>see this thread on my phone
>for the next 2 hours i can feel like i have fun again

Originally posted by: Angel-likeDevil

KK, our country is cash-strapped, to invest in machinery required for lingual translations at the moment, that too - there are simply too many central government officers.. I cannot begin to explain how they are in streets far away from main branch, it requires too much money which our government does not have.

As for making hindi compulsory in schools up until 10th class, it is wrong indeed... I will read up on it as I never knew about it. Is it official?

Yes. But state gov't it is. But again, railway stations in state are considered national despite taxes from those states. In terms of teaching, doctor, etc etc. Many of these jobs, they have no intent to move around, and yet, they are told to prove Hindi levels.

^^please elaborate.

Railways come under union list. I have never seen railway station without the regional language for guidances of passengers - be it boards or announcements.

Yes, Tamil Nadu has done much w.r.t this issue.

Regarding airlines, yes, agree how announcements atleast on routes that are within a state are not made in the regional language!

Babus are to monitor Hindi fluency of employees, give stipends for good fluency, etc etc.

^^..please elaborate.

Hindi chauvinists are making ridiculous demands, that's true, but I highly doubt the government will pay heed to them.

Angel, the government which is cast strapped is spending money promoting/imposing Hindi. It honestly shouldn't be that hard to implement in this day and age. Demonetization in a fortnight, and you are telling me an implementation within a set period for linguistic equality is not possible?

It is n ot the matter of government paying heed to them or not. It is the matter of what has come from government itself.

Tickets in Tamil Nadu itself do not have Tamil. They used to be, older tickets had three languages, now you see it's just two. When this has permeated even Tamil Nadu, which has Bank instructions in just Hindi and English, tickets in Hindi and English, etc etc--it's a problem.

Please read this thread. Yes, the guy is pissed, but it's the best one I can find for this.
https://twitter.com/SrujanaDeva/status/855857684763078660

Originally posted by: Angel-likeDevil

Sorry, but I meant in the context of short visit. "Social convenience" is what I meant, in the context of social movements. I went for a visit to Chandigarh, as a tourist, what would I "pick up on" ..punjabi or hindi? If I move to settle there, ofcourse I'd learn Punjabi. But until I settle and learn punjabi, what would my immediate way of conversing be as soon as I step on Punjabi land? in tooti-phooti hindi/english..

Learning a language is a different issue... I wasn't talking about it.

So here is my question. If you were to visit Russia, China, Korea etc as a tourist, what would you do? Punjab is okay with Hindi, their choice. But why should other regions be? South will choose English. And no one is stopping anyone from learning Hindi. Simply saying, don't impose Hindi in lands where they don't want it imposed.

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these are all recommendations not yet accepted .

parliamentary panel recommended making hindi compulsory. As per the recommendations along with english and regional language you have to learn hindi in schools affiliated by CBSE and KVs. . that is not for state government funded schools and not yet passed by the ministry btw. presidential order also asked the centre to consult with the states before forming any policy.


Panel recommended, president accepted. People reacted. And will people will continue to react until it's rejected. Yes, and we should believe that that and sit quiet that states will be duly confronted.

Yes, it is not state gov't funded schools. But where do central funds come from? That is point being made. Central funds come from those in those states too.

What language do the 'Hindi-speaking' region schools learn as their regional language?

And this all leads to the larger issue of Hindi as the sole Indian language as the union language. As long as it remains that way, this matter will not go away. That is the underlying problem.

Originally posted by: Angel-likeDevil

KK, our country is cash-strapped, to invest in machinery required for lingual translations at the moment, that too - there are simply too many central government offices.. I cannot begin to explain how they are in streets far away from main branch, it requires too much money which our government does not have.

As for making hindi compulsory in schools up until 10th class, it is wrong indeed... I will read up on it as I never knew about it. Is it official?

Yes. But state gov't it is. But again, railway stations in state are considered national despite taxes from those states. In terms of teaching, doctor, etc etc. Many of these jobs, they have no intent to move around, and yet, they are told to prove Hindi levels.

^^please elaborate.

did you read this? And this is from 2015
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9JQMiDXYAEQK_U.jpg

It's not just this. A friend in Bengal was telling me of a similar situation. Going for a job, needing to prove Hindi-level even though there's no need for Hindi in that job.

I don't know from where people get the idea that Hindi is the National Language. Widely known/spoken doesn't translate to National Language. If that were the case, it'd have been English. A simple google search can tell you this much.

^^ KK, I have seen that post from twitter, I'd like to know which Department has released those official notifications/corrigendums.