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Posted: 8 years ago
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So this forums and specifically fandoms of RANBIR & RANVEER claims that having a known directors films make you a bigger star.

Okay. What is simple definition of 'known or a big director'???

List may consist the likes of
  • Sanjay Leela Bhansali
  • Vishal Bhardwaj
  • Rajkumar Hirani
  • Zoya Akhtar
  • Aditya Chopra
  • Anurag Kashyap
  • Anurag Basu
  • Shoojit Sircar
  • Karan Johar
  • Anand L Rai
  • Imtiaz Ali


Let's take a minute out to see the highest grossing Bollywood films.

PK - (Rajkumar Hirani) 337cr
Bajrangi Bhaijaan (Kabir Khan) 315cr
Sultan (Ali Abbas Zafar) 300cr
Dhoom 3 (Vijay Krishna Acharya) 260cr
Kick (Sajid Nadiadwala) 211cr
Chennai Express (Rohit Shetty) 208cr
3 Idiots (Rajkumar Hirani) 201cr
Prem Ratan Dhan Payo (Sooraj Barjatya) 194cr
Ek Tha Tiger (Kabir Khan) 186cr


Excluding Rajkumar Hirani. None of the other directors really meet requirements to fit in that list of known/big directors. Oh wait. I didn't know stardom and box office is determined by number critics praises or awards they receive. 😆 We are discussing stardom here. Not actor's preferences of proving their ability and gaining accolades.


Let's analyse the opening of the films and consistency which the trades analysts group at Indicine has discussed about. Now we are keeping in mind that we're discussing star power, consistency and big opening at BO despite negative buzz, lack of appealing cast, lack of chartbusters and no-industry supports

Last 6 films of each the stars in comparison (in order of latest to oldest release)

Shahid Kapoor (debut 2003) 25 films till date -
Udta Punjab - 9.5cr
Shaandaar - 11.7cr
Haider - 5.2cr
R Rajkumar - 9.4cr
Phata Poster Nikla Hero - 5.8cr
Teri Meri Kahaani - 4.8cr


Ranbir Kapoor (debut 2007) 14 films till date -
Tamasha - 10.9cr
Bombay Velvet - 5.2cr
Roy - 9.3cr
Besharam - 19.8cr
Yeh Jawani Hai Deewani - 19.4cr
Barfi - 8.3cr


Ranveer Singh (debut 2010) 8 films till date -
Bajirao Mastani - 12.3cr
Dil Dhadkne Do - 9.6cr
Kill Dil - 6.2cr
Gunday - 14.2cr
Ram Leela - 14.9cr
Lootera - 4.1cr


Varun Dhawan (debut 2012) 7 films till date -
Dishoom - 11cr
Dilwale - 20.3cr
ABCD 2 - 14.3cr
Badlapur - 7cr
Humpty Sharma Ki Dulhania - 8.7cr
Main Tera Hero - 6.5cr
Student Of The Year - 7.5cr


Now take into account the last 3 films of these 4 stars above. As we are clearly discussing opening days figures and star power NOW. Not 2013 or 2014.

Total nett gross is depending on WOM. Only first day & weekend relies on star power.

Few notes - Varun hasn't got a Bhansali, Bhardwaj, Adi C or Hirani film. But he works with newcomers like Shashank and delivers hits. He works with Remo who's films are known to receive poor reviews. He works with Sriram Raghavan, critically acclaimed but a flop director until Badlapur happened.

Varun is mocked for playing same roles. Rom-Coms are in one place and Masala films are other. Saying HSKD is same as MTH or Dishoom is like saying YJHD is same as Besharam or Band Baaja Baraat is same as Gunday. He has been praised for Badlapur and first A rated film to cross 50cr. Saying his films work due to chartbusters. Dishoom had no hit music or famous heroine like Deepika. Saying if ABCD 2 worked coz it was a sequel. Well I recall this forums thrashed it by saying it will be huge flop (especially Guess.Who - who's been ranting how Varun will only last 3 films since MTH days). If all sequels were guaranteed success - HOW DID THESE FOLLOWING SEQUELS FAIL TO DELIVER? Houseful 3, Yamla Pagla Deewana 2 (who'd know this better than Sunny paji fan himself - guess.who), Kya Kool Hai Hum 3, Murder 3, OUATMD etc...

Saying films like YJHD & Bajirao collected massive total amount - Well it wasn't star power, was it?
Openings of YJHD or Besharam were like 20cr - Duh - Give Varun Judwaa 2 or BKD on Gandhi Jayant or Post-IPL weekend, you'll get better collections


Well enough for now.

For now - keep calm and await for

Badrinath Ki Dulhania - I bet this will be the biggest opener for the leads

Shiddat - Abhishek Verman film

Judwaa 2 - David Dhawan film

Dabba Gul - Pradeep Sarkar film



Edited by -Vagabando- - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: bosskibiwi

n yeah rk was d reason bv flopped ryt? no script no flop music but only rk n how u ignore yjhd barfi etc


bhai if you want to encounter all reasons except rk for BV failure

then also do the same for his hits na

YJHD had a very well received trailer..songs were chartbusters..promos were loved..had the no.1 actress deepika with him..

you mean to say for failure everything but RK is responsible (even if that includes taking 38cr for a movie and not even giving an initial) but for success it is just him and nothing else
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Posted: 8 years ago
#73
And seriously
I don't know whether who really is bigger star. But Varun Dhawan is really doing well and gaining stardom and fanbase as day passes. He is certainly doing well. On this forums. He is most bashed youngster. It's okay though. He may keep delivering hits after hits. Making his fans happy
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: glace-bleue


Ranbir's opening day of 20 cr was with a bad trailer, a new actress and he had supposedly pissed of SRK/Salman fans😆


True!!!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: cougarTown


it is not about big projects but successes

he is sensible to be in controlled budget movies like HSKD and now Badrinath and give decent profits

rather than being in big budget movies (doubt there would remain any in 2018 except for khans and kumar- the way it is going) and later giving them 100 crore losses

big budget movie milna kahan ka stardom hoa?

you have to give those results and opening to be a star

deepika did piku..a smaller budget movie and it was a superhit..does that make her any less of a star?

buhat logo ko big movies milti hain aur us se bi baray tarikay se doobti hain- that is no criteria of stardom imo



I LOVE this post.

Thank you for stating that it is not about who are you are working with - it's about what you make of the opportunity that receive. I don't wish to reiterate the whole Bombay Velvet thing but the reality is that it was supposed to be one of the grandest films in Bollywood but the result of it hurt Ranbir's career more than it did good so where is the benefits of doing that "big" film? Same with DDD - big film, big budget - didn't really create waves, if I'm not wrong. I say Varun working with Sriram Raghavan in Badlapur did more for his career, that way.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Varun imo is easily comparable to oday's gen Salman Khan in terms of mass following. Always consistent and has a charming screen presence
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: bosskibiwi

@koiza how easily u shift all blame on rk! tell me besharam opened with 20 crores when trailer songs flopped n new actress were dere. so what was d reason for its opening?


2nd October - Gandhi Jayanti - Post YJHD success. He didn't utilise his stardom properly
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Posted: 8 years ago
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What is big project even mean ???

What if ADHM and/or Befikre finish under Dishoom 😆😆😆

You know in beginning of 2010 people said the biggest films were gonna be MNIK, Kites, Guzarish, TMK, and Housefull. A film called Dabangg scored over all of them 👏👏👏

I guess I dont put much stock in who directs or produces. If others do thats fine but sometimes debut directors or lesser known directors can take the cup.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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i agree !!

whatever reasons they gave for varun being bigger star than others makes sense !!👍🏼
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Vagabando-


2nd October - Gandhi Jayanti - Post YJHD success. He didn't utilise his stardom properly

yeah thats alryt, but he is bigger star than varun anyday! varun is doing quite gud but until he delievers a massive bb he is not up there with them! anyways varun make abt 3 crore per ad n rk makes 20 crores for chips only😆

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