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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades

There appear to be a lot of misconceptions and misgivings about surrogacy.

Obviously adoption is a preferable and altruistic solution. There are too many unwanted children in the world. Irrespective of whether there are conception issues or not, I feel that people should be encouraged to adopt. There are many ways to encourage adoption. Adoption fees should be tax deductible. Parents should be able to take adoption leave just like maternity/paternity leave to bond with a the new child. Companies that offer adoption benefits should be given subsidies and tax breaks. Public institutions can offer discounts to adopted children.

But vilifying surrogacy is not the right way to encourage adoption. For some reason many human beings have a strong parental drive to have a child that is their own DNA and blood. Perhaps it is an inherent trait of our mammalian nature. Perhaps it is human selfishness. But the desire for one's own child is real, personal, emotional and overwhelming for many people.

Surrogacy gives many people hope and choice to fulfill that desire. Of course surrogacy comes with many challenges. There have been scams and scandals. There have been women who have been exploited. There have been situations where couples have backed off leaving a surrogate with the burden of the child. There have been situations where the surrogate has had a change of heart and refused to give up the child. Surrogacy definitely does need to carefully legally controlled to prevent exploitation.

However, the current approach is quite regressive. Barring single people, gay couples, or live in relationships is unfair to those people who want a child. Forcing the surrogate to be a close married relative who has borne children is also unfair. Sometimes it is better that the surrogate be a third party to prevent tensions within the family due to emotional attachments. It is also unfair to rule out friends or single relatives who may want to be altruistic.

Instead the law should mandate psychological evaluation of both the surrogate and parents by at least two separate and independent psychiatrists to ensure they are mentally prepared for the task. Both parties should have a separate lawyer fairly representing their interests while stipulating the surrogacy agreement. Compensation and terms should be clearly stipulated. The decision to abort or not in case of birth defects or in case of risk to mother should also be documented. Surrogacy should be done through accredited agencies that are audited regularly for fair practices.

India is acting on a noble intent but going about it in a horribly wrong manner.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades

There appear to be a lot of misconceptions and misgivings about surrogacy.

Obviously adoption is a preferable and altruistic solution. There are too many unwanted children in the world. Irrespective of whether there are conception issues or not, I feel that people should be encouraged to adopt. There are many ways to encourage adoption. Adoption fees should be tax deductible. Parents should be able to take adoption leave just like maternity/paternity leave to bond with a the new child. Companies that offer adoption benefits should be given subsidies and tax breaks. Public institutions can offer discounts to adopted children.

But vilifying surrogacy is not the right way to encourage adoption. For some reason many human beings have a strong parental drive to have a child that is their own DNA and blood. Perhaps it is an inherent trait of our mammalian nature. Perhaps it is human selfishness. But the desire for one's own child is real, personal, emotional and overwhelming for many people.

Surrogacy gives many people hope and choice to fulfill that desire. Of course surrogacy comes with many challenges. There have been scams and scandals. There have been women who have been exploited. There have been situations where couples have backed off leaving a surrogate with the burden of the child. There have been situations where the surrogate has had a change of heart and refused to give up the child. Surrogacy definitely does need to carefully legally controlled to prevent exploitation.

However, the current approach is quite regressive. Barring single people, gay couples, or live in relationships is unfair to those people who want a child. Forcing the surrogate to be a close married relative who has borne children is also unfair. Sometimes it is better that the surrogate be a third party to prevent tensions within the family due to emotional attachments. It is also unfair to rule out friends or single relatives who may want to be altruistic.

Instead the law should mandate psychological evaluation of both the surrogate and parents by at least two separate and independent psychiatrists to ensure they are mentally prepared for the task. Both parties should have a separate lawyer fairly representing their interests while stipulating the surrogacy agreement. Compensation and terms should be clearly stipulated. The decision to abort or not in case of birth defects or in case of risk to mother should also be documented. Surrogacy should be done through accredited agencies that are audited regularly for fair practices.

India is acting on a noble intent but going about it in a horribly wrong manner.

If only the govt as sensible peeps like you instead of idiots like Mrs Swaraj...
& Someone saying we should have 1 child rule like China...R u freaking kidding me?
It's coz of 1 child rule that China is now an aged country with overkill of investment in Infrastructure & public assets that no one wants...a large reason for their plummeting real estate sector & resultant economic slowdown!!!
Educate your citizens ...give them incentives to them if they act accordingly but DO NOT force them through unnecessary legislations...Goes against the very idea of democracy...
Currently the govt is avoiding the pain of regulation by resorting to bans!!!
That's lazy & irresponsible governance!!!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I am bored of repeating the same but why do people think it is their wish to have as many kids as they want??
If your country has more space please take all of them there since India is already exploding.

Illiterate and poor people go on producing kids every year in spite of the fact that they cannot feed those kids and then send them to beg. If rich and educated people also start producing kids every yaer I cannot totally imagine the end of my country.

I always thought education helps a few but looks like nobody cares 🤢
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheBoss

Surrogacy does not contribute to population woes. Besides the one child policy itself was discriminator and has yet since repealed by China. Surrogacy helps out a lot of people who cant have children. It benefits everyone. Not just the parents but even the surrogate. If there is some foul play then government should clamp down on those who did it and not just go on a blanket ban punishing everyone around and trying to tell them how to run their lives. What happens between two consenting adults is none of their business. This country has a lot more pressing issues that needs to be sorted out by government like mismanagement of athletes, pollution of our streams, diseases like malaria and typhoid, nepotism, corruption within the ranks and violence against women.


It is still allowed for childless parents.

We know our country has a lot of issues and don't worry we will solve them. 70 years ka shit can't be cleaned in 1 day, it will take time.

Surrogacy is also becoming violence against women and since you mentioned as one issue, see we are having some laws for it.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Pandora.

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Wasn't India regressive enough --- now they are going back to the dark ages ------- banning spree in a democracy with stupid reasoning --- 👎🏼--- but look at that they are acknowledging homosexuals for a change --</font>


This is the difference between India, Indians and all others.
You tell us anything and you we tolerate.

Try telling the same to some other country and see the backlash you get.


Also are only Indian women fertile??
Go to progressive nations and get surrogacy done, why do you want babies of regressive nation?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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name calling india n indians is a common thing in this forum. but say a thing against fave actors, mods will give u warning level n close d thread 🥱

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