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Posted: 9 years ago
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That Ms Sushma Swaraj...just targeted two women without any reason...saying something so disgusting about them about their child bearing capabilities and choices...Something that was totally unprovoked and not required...that the amendments to the Surrogacy laws could have been done without targeting these two women...I don't understand that what kind and how much knowledge is required to CONDEMN the statement of Ms Swaraj??What is wrong is wrong...there are no two ways about it...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Savz_Startling

ya strict actions must be taken on misusing n on commercial surrogacy.ban on commerical surrogacy n not on total surrogacy.ethic surrogacy is allowed,i think it's necessary n right decision 👍🏼


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Yes Rich people use this as their luxury due to this some people use this as a profession ...

this law start for those, those dnt have child

But it is lot different because a surrogate is not just doing your day job for cheap. She is bringing a new life into the world. Some supporters of surrogacy (mostly those who are involved in the industry) ethically justify the idea by stating that it's a noble act of kindness.

No, it is not.

Kindness is when a close relative offers to be your surrogate. Not when you acquire the services online with a credit card. It is business then. A womb rental cannot be seen as a legitimate business period.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..SHIVANI..

exactly! While iam not denying that surrogacy is a boon for many, but many are creating a business out of it...and there have been many cases where the children have been left behind coz its not the gender they wanted or child is abnormal etc. This has both negative and positive aspects!


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Without taking names, Ms Swaraj commented that "celebrities are having surrogate babies, in spite of having two children, they had a third, just because the wife couldn't take the pain, and got someone else to bear their child."

This is what she said.. it's for SRK..he has talked about Gauri's pain many times.how he hated himself for putting her through this..so ya..them opting for surrogacy can be because she couldn't take the pain..
Aamir's two kids r with Reena ..and Koran herself clarified she cannot have a baby the natural way on medical grounds..even had a failed pregnancy..so their reason is understandable..don't think it was targeted at Aamir
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I prefer adoption rather than surrogacy. So many woman are forced into this, there are many huge rackets involving this. In some, the woman are forced to have sex with the father. It is horrible, very horrible. So I understand the rules. Strict action is a very welcome action IMO, I don't approve total ban but strict, very strict rules and regulations is a must. As lets not forget third world countries always exploit things which involves emotion. Plus as other pointed out, if child is abnormal, it basically gets abandoned. Aside, Sushma Swarag is an idiot, so lets ignore her, concentrate on the more important part of this rule, stopping exploitation of poor woman.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bazigar

defence minister under whose nose secret documents leaked, busy in castigating amir khan and MEA busy in castigating their children. May be best trick to remain popular.



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Leak happened in 2011 when Congress was in power and in charge of Ministry of Defence. Check facts. 😆😳

pata ab laga hai 😛

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Agree with the ban and govts reasons for it..
There have been cases of abandoning the baby, no proper care for the surrogate, countries not acknowledging the baby, multiple pregnancies taking a toll on the bearer's health and so on..
There don't have to be many such cases to frame a law..however rare..such things happen and can happen in future..one such case is also enough for a law protecting the interests of baby and mother
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi25

THERE, proved once again that BJP always targets SRK and Aamir. Sushma Swaraj is obviously throwing shade at these 2 actors here...


For them hiring surrogate for having a 3rd child is a bigger crime than running over homeless people on footpaths or hunting protected species. JUST GREAT! 🥱

Yes, maybe some poor women are exploited by doctors and surrogacy middlemen who force them to have repeated pregnancies due to greed for money.
Watched an episode of Crime Patrol where such surrogate mothers were kept captive and forced to have babies of rich customers... this entire racket was operated by a crooked doctor and a gang of criminals.

But its also true that many childless couples who have medical problems and the mother cannot carry a live foetus to full term can get the blessings of a child thru surrogacy.
Or a single parent or a gay couple can become parents with help of surrogacy.

Why are they discriminating against single parents and gay couples by making it illegal for them?
Shows their attitude towards anyone who doesnt toe their sanskari line. 🥱

Government shd not interfere in these matters, it shd definitely stop criminal exploitation of poor women but not stop the women who willingly become surrogates.
There shd be stricter control of the whole system but it shd not be made illegal for gay or single parents.

Yes, single parents can adopt like Sushmita Sen did...so many girl children are abandoned and left to die, single parents or childless parents can adopt them and give them a loving home and a bright future.

But it shd be the decision of the individuals, their choice to adopt or go for surrogacy, not a forced decree by the government, by making surrogacy illegal.




Couldnt agree more ---- there are many cases of such doctors who exploit & take advantage of their degree -- doesn't mean India can go around banning doctors and hospitals --- doesn't work like that ----- !!!
To stop the exploitation, instead of outright banning & introducing draconian laws, what gov needs to do is to have strict regulations, proper paperwork, guidelines so mothers who are willing to go through the surrogacy aren't exploited ----- they could also introduce limitation on women not to go through this procedure more than 1 or 2 times ---- that will cover the health of such women ---- but this banning spree is regressive & invading people's choice be it the couple who want surrogacy & even women who want to help such couples ---- you don't need rocket science to stop such exploitation --- !!!!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: charminggenie

Amusing.

Foreigners were banned from surrogacy since 4 years now because of many infamous cases but prominently the Japanese couple who divorced and refused to have the baby. Or in 2012 when an Australian couple abandoned the baby because of the gender as they already had one of similar one. Best case in Germany,2008, where the country refused to grant citizenship to the child as it refused to acknowledge surrogacy as a means of parenthood. Germany- mark the country please.

According to CSR (Centre for Social Risk) in 2014 reported , 88% surrogates in Delhi and 78% in Mumbai had no clue of their contracts , wages or what it meant. Interesting.

Your fertility clinics don't run on ICMR guidelines as it is not legally binded resulted in rampant misuse making India , next to cambodia as a market. 2$billion industry - unregulated, not under legal purview.


In 2013, the law against gay couple taking to surrogacy came because of decriminalising law and other regressive shit ( that is the problem) . So I find this hue and cry now so amusing.

Single parents and live-in relationships are for now put under purview.

A big positive that has come out is , earlier the kid born through this had to be adopted first . But now it is considered legally born to the parents. It's a big step , might not seem to few, but many developed countries doesn't have it.

Against this is a draft , it will undergo zillion amendments by Parliament , Apex Court before it even comes out.


Real challenge is to make this more inclusive , regulation and a swift reform for homosexuals, live-ins .


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Love_Katty_24-7

I prefer adoption rather than surrogacy. So many woman are forced into this, there are many huge rackets involving this. In some, the woman are forced to have sex with the father. It is horrible, very horrible. So I understand the rules. Strict action is a very welcome action IMO, I don't approve total ban but strict, very strict rules and regulations is a must. As lets not forget third world countries always exploit things which involves emotion. Plus as other pointed out, if child is abnormal, it basically gets abandoned. Aside, Sushma Swarag is an idiot, so lets ignore her, concentrate on the more important part of this rule, stopping exploitation of poor woman.


I am not sure how it works in India ------ but adopting isn't easy nor it is a cake walk ----- there are too many rules, it takes years plus it can be very financially draining too ---- adoption can be the best solution ---- though wish the rules when it comes to adoption can be easier so many couples can go for it ---!!!!

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