Was media too quick to tag Ranbir 'SUPERSTAR'??? - Page 3

Ranbir is hyped like no other actor people who hate Khans love him because they want someone to desperately replace them. he needs to have it in him to replace them he does not have it. Hrithik is a more star material after Khans than Ranbir his boxoffice and starpull is better than rabir but still media and critics put Ranbir on pedestal. The cause of dent on Rk worshipping is the emergence of new actors who are also delivering good performance, different films and Bo hits. He was hyped for choosing hatke things Ranveer,Varun, Sid, Ark everyone started doing different films. His competition expanded. He is incapable of uprooting Khans with his zero mass appeal. He doesnt have looks or skills of Hrithik. He is as good as bad as the new actors who were launched after him. Media deserve the rude shock of his zero star power. His fans held besharam close to heart for its opening day collection they thoughts is his super star pull with Bombay velvet that myth is broken.

Problem is his fans want him shielded from any kind of scrutiny and want their opinion of him being the best actor since eternity shoved down our throats, merely because of the potential he showed earlier and cos most likely he'll have the advantage of a longevous career (after the Khans). Bhaad mein jaaye the in between, the now, it's as if his debacles since the last two years don't exist...
Like Aamir/Salman weren't written off ever during 2002-2006, 2003-2009 respectively, but no Raymond has to be exempt from all that.
Same thing I said about Anu applies- aur papad belne padenge.

We often don't realise value.

Talking of acting, Jackie Shroff was phenomenal in films like Kaash and Parinda. Though they gave him award but nobody mentions him among good actors or lists his performance among most iconic ones.

No one gave him extra brownie points for acting and talent, the way they keep making case for today's newbies.

Nobody bothers about how a totally new, raw, Anil held his own in same films as Dilip Kumar and Naseer!

Whether it was Khans or Jackie, Anil etc, they even played parents to 5-9 year olds in first decade of career, without hesitation. They worked with both seniors and rivals without insecurity.

When they worked with the #1 heroine of their times, they gave the year's biggest hits and even ATBBs.

All odds were against them. Especially the Khans and Devgan. Their looks, physique, height, voices etc, everything was mocked. Even their heroines like Juhi and Divya laughed at them.

When posters of Phool Aur Kaante first came out, people said this "hero looks like a jamaadaar" (sweeper). They mocked Ajay in worst words possible. But his film whipped Lamhe at the BO. A Yash Chopra film starring top billed stars like Anil and Sridevi. Whereas today's newcomers don't even have the balls to clash with any senior or even contemporary.

Aamir was called baby face and they said he looks more vulnerable than the heroine, yeh kya hero banega? But QSQT was superhit and though he had great spate of flops but he managed to give 1990's biggest hit in Dil.

Whereas, today's newbies can work with either Deepika or Kat but still cannot give year's top grosser.

Where is a trendsetting film like MPK, that changes business and makes career of even character actors? Despite new director and new actors in lead?

Is there any guy who is willing to act with a senior and has talent enough to gobble the senior in his own film the way SRK did in Darr and Deewana?

I do not know how much time today's newcomers need! Big B started with flops but even he came into his own after 5 years!

AB once gave an interview recalling an incident during shooting of Hum. He said when kids came to take autographs, they were mostly turning to Govinda, leaving even him and Rajinikanth behind.

Has such phenomenon happened now? That people turn to the younger guy? The only time it happened was with Hrithik in 2000!

Today's newcomers have access to better resources, grooming, training compared to yesteryear stars. The families are more supportive. They have access to social media, to market themselves well and are not dependent on traditional media. They have access to professional image managers, PR and gazillion other types of staff and managers.

Still? No solid impact?

I daresay even the artsy actors of old days were better and more diverse! A guy like Naseer managed to give hits like Tridev and Vishwatma! He had the most outrageous role in Tridev but it's his song that made the film memorable, even though he can't dance to save his life!
And their truly different cinema like Sparsh, Jaane bhi do yaaron, Masoom, Mirch Masala etc are something that people later couldn't even come close to. Absolutely natural. No drama, no frills, no publicity.

As a member of the audience I also want something different. Where's the change or true "new sensation"? Many show spark but why it remains limited to just a spark? Where is the expression of full potential?

I am sorry but it's not just about Ranbir alone. I am disappointed that our generation has no kickass, phenomenal, game changing icon! Why should I have to make do with stories of past legends? When do we get to witness legend unfolding, history being created in our times?!

Or are we going to wait till Khans themselves announce retirement?

The key to winning over audiences is to be different yet entertaining. For eg, Akki played a cop in Mohra but he was totally different from usual Bollywood cops. Much fitter, more handsome, good at romance and excellent dancer, with a dash of comedy as well. All rounder unlike usual angry young man cops prior to that film.

It's the uniqueness and freshness that's amiss.

Are the newbies ahead of oldies in knowing tide of the times and pulse of audience? I don't think so.

I do not know if the problem is with them or the filmmakers who present them.

But changing the tide is in THEIR HANDS. Not the audience or media. And yeah, you don't become superstar via PR.

You're superstar when people replace old posters and wallpapers with YOURS. When they make time for you, irrespective of whether it's holiday or not.

Audience is open to change, provided they get something better. Stars are like a dream. Only a better dream can replace the previously existing dream.

Originally posted by: atominis

We often don't realise value.

Talking of acting, Jackie Shroff was phenomenal in films like Kaash and Parinda. Though they gave him award but nobody mentions him among good actors or lists his performance among most iconic ones.

No one gave him extra brownie points for acting and talent, the way they keep making case for today's newbies.

Nobody bothers about how a totally new, raw, Anil held his own in same films as Dilip Kumar and Naseer!

Whether it was Khans or Jackie, Anil etc, they even played parents to 5-9 year olds in first decade of career, without hesitation. They worked with both seniors and rivals without insecurity.

When they worked with the #1 heroine of their times, they gave the year's biggest hits and even ATBBs.

All odds were against them. Especially the Khans and Devgan. Their looks, physique, height, voices etc, everything was mocked. Even their heroines like Juhi and Divya laughed at them.

When posters of Phool Aur Kaante first came out, people said this "hero looks like a jamaadaar" (sweeper). They mocked Ajay in worst words possible. But his film whipped Lamhe at the BO. A Yash Chopra film starring top billed stars like Anil and Sridevi. Whereas today's newcomers don't even have the balls to clash with any senior or even contemporary.

Aamir was called baby face and they said he looks more vulnerable than the heroine, yeh kya hero banega? But QSQT was superhit and though he had great spate of flops but he managed to give 1990's biggest hit in Dil.

Whereas, today's newbies can work with either Deepika or Kat but still cannot give year's top grosser.

Where is a trendsetting film like MPK, that changes business and makes career of even character actors? Despite new director and new actors in lead?

Is there any guy who is willing to act with a senior and has talent enough to gobble the senior in his own film the way SRK did in Darr and Deewana?

I do not know how much time today's newcomers need! Big B started with flops but even he came into his own after 5 years!

AB once gave an interview recalling an incident during shooting of Hum. He said when kids came to take autographs, they were mostly turning to Govinda, leaving even him and Rajinikanth behind.

Has such phenomenon happened now? That people turn to the younger guy? The only time it happened was with Hrithik in 2000!

Today's newcomers have access to better resources, grooming, training compared to yesteryear stars. The families are more supportive. They have access to social media, to market themselves well and are not dependent on traditional media. They have access to professional image managers, PR and gazillion other types of staff and managers.

Still? No solid impact?

I daresay even the artsy actors of old days were better and more diverse! A guy like Naseer managed to give hits like Tridev and Vishwatma! He had the most outrageous role in Tridev but it's his song that made the film memorable, even though he can't dance to save his life!
And their truly different cinema like Sparsh, Jaane bhi do yaaron, Masoom, Mirch Masala etc are something that people later couldn't even come close to. Absolutely natural. No drama, no frills, no publicity.

As a member of the audience I also want something different. Where's the change or true "new sensation"? Many show spark but why it remains limited to just a spark? Where is the expression of full potential?

I am sorry but it's not just about Ranbir alone. I am disappointed that our generation has no kickass, phenomenal, game changing icon! Why should I have to make do with stories of past legends? When do we get to witness legend unfolding, history being created in our times?!

Or are we going to wait till Khans themselves announce retirement?

The key to winning over audiences is to be different yet entertaining. For eg, Akki played a cop in Mohra but he was totally different from usual Bollywood cops. Much fitter, more handsome, good at romance and excellent dancer, with a dash of comedy as well. All rounder unlike usual angry young man cops prior to that film.

It's the uniqueness and freshness that's amiss.

Are the newbies ahead of oldies in knowing tide of the times and pulse of audience? I don't think so.

I do not know if the problem is with them or the filmmakers who present them.

But changing the tide is in THEIR HANDS. Not the audience or media. And yeah, you don't become superstar via PR.

You're superstar when people replace old posters and wallpapers with YOURS. When they make time for you, irrespective of whether it's holiday or not.

Audience is open to change, provided they get something better. Stars are like a dream. Only a better dream can replace the previously existing dream.

The 'select' people consist of the who's who of the Industry. Even Salman has acknowledged Ranbir many times, calling him the future after the Khans, another time remarking in 'jest' that 'Ranbir was taking everything that was his'. Aamir has made no bones about how impressed he's with Ranbir. Karan Johar. You name it, everyone has declared Ranbir the heir to the throne.

Its actually very similar to Hrithik when he was touted to be the second coming and a contender for the throne. That's another story that he turned out to be pretender and could never reach the pinnacle. Ranbir is a lot more focused though, so he has a shot at 'Superstardom' that only a select few have achieved.

Like I've said before if your superstars includes guys like Hrithik then Ranbir is a shoo-in. For every Bombay velvet there's also Guzaarish. For a big opener like Besharam that dies down from day 2 there's also Kites. When Ranbir does a commercial film like YJHD it does better than Hrithik's Bang Bang. They have a similar career trajectory except Ranbir is much more talented.

not media but "Bollywood". They really want to kill Khans domination and replace it with Kapoor. They've done it with "Kumar aka Singh", then "Roshan"... See where was Khans showing them the exactly place they should be.

Bollywood tried to kill Salman career with "hit & run" case, SRK with "cheater/ bad husband" and more.. . Now, 3 of them united and support each other, because they already knew Bollywood want to destroy Khans domination. Karan and "Bollywood" should know who are Khans & YRF. ups! 😆🤣

Btw, VVC said in his casting for Mission kashmir, that only HR (a new guy) can stand against Sanju and Jackie and Preity, That film opened bigger than Mohabbtein (SRK, BigB's come back, Aish and Adi C after DDLJ, hit music and all that, the genre).

Originally posted by: OutsiderOne

not media but "Bollywood". They really want to kill Khans domination and replace it with Kapoor. They've done it with "Kumar aka Singh", then "Roshan"... See where was Khans showing them the exactly place they should be.

Bollywood tried to kill Salman career with "hit & run" case, SRK with "cheater/ bad husband" and more.. . Now, 3 of them united and support each other, because they already knew Bollywood want to destroy Khans domination. Karan and "Bollywood" should know who are Khans & YRF. ups! 😆🤣

Originally posted by: -Hadia-

Movies Runs on Star power and Ranbir doesn't have it ...Honestly he is extremely overrated he is not even on Hritik's level right now Let alone Khans

Originally posted by: OutsiderOne

not media but "Bollywood". They really want to kill Khans domination and replace it with Kapoor. They've done it with "Kumar aka Singh", then "Roshan"... See where was Khans showing them the exactly place they should be.

Bollywood tried to kill Salman career with "hit & run" case, SRK with "cheater/ bad husband" and more.. . Now, 3 of them united and support each other, because they already knew Bollywood want to destroy Khans domination. Karan and "Bollywood" should know who are Khans & YRF. ups! 😆🤣