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Posted: 10 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: return_to_hades


Some of the comments in this thread highlight that women don't really have a choice at all. What is good for them, what will empower them is already decided.

If you are a woman, then follow the good girl plan. Do well in school and get highly educated. Get a prestigious job. Don't get distracted by boys and sex. Get married in time, have kids and then sacrifice everything for being a good wife and mother. Only then will you be free. Only then will you be empowered.

If you deviate from the route. If you choose to not do well, if your job is frivolous and dumb, if you have sex, if you drink, smoke, experiment with drugs, get piercings and tattoos, if you don't marry and remain true to your identity - then you have failed being a good Indian woman. You are a slave to bad influences. You will never be empowered.



Your assumption.

And it is flawed.

Who asked Sush to get married?

Or any woman to get married at all?

Empowerment is smoking, drinking, philandering, not even stable in occupation? 😆

If there was a man like Sushmita trying to give sermons then I would say the same about him too.

Just as I laughed at a man like AB for supporting this video or trying to talk of woman empowerment.

I am increasingly amused at selective usage of gender bias card and definitions of empowerment here.

Everybody gets criticised like this. Like the PM is bashed for abandoning his own wife and never acknowledging her whenever he talks of woman empowerment.

It is not just poor woman who gets talked of like this.

Nobody cries then why AB has no choice or NaMo has none. 😆

Don't try to put words in others' mouths.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#62
Infact according to Sushmita, and some of her supporters, people have no brain to form an opinion of their own and are part of bandwagon if they criticised the video. Doesn't this go against #MyChoice?

No choice of contrary opinion?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Idol or not ,is again a very individualistic thing. Sushmita might not be "good" or iconic for some but there might be few who like her for a lot of reasons. Again pretty dismissive attitude and judgmental about likes and dislikes of another individuals even when we want world and people to stop generalizing India . Irony at it's best.
Setting that aside , just like Sonakshi, Sonam , she is a Bollywood actress. Her opinion should solely be discussed on what she spoke on these issues and extrapolating it to her life-choices is really silly especially if we didn't do that for the other girls who might be living a contradiction to what they preached in their IVs.

We might not agree with Sushmita's life choices but that was her choice to live it like that. It doesn't mean her opinion on this should be dismissed . She has as much as right to judge and generalize like some of us do here.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: charminggenie

Idol or not ,is again a very individualistic thing. Sushmita might not be "good" or iconic for some but there might be few who like her for a lot of reasons. Again pretty dismissive attitude and judgmental about likes and dislikes of another individuals even when we want world and people to stop generalizing India . Irony at it's best.

Setting that aside , just like Sonakshi, Sonam , she is a Bollywood actress. Her opinion should solely be discussed on what she spoke on these issues and extrapolating it to her life-choices is really silly especially if we didn't do that for the other girls who might be living a contradiction to what they preached in their IVs.

We might not agree with Sushmita's life choices but that was her choice to live it like that. It doesn't mean her opinion on this should be dismissed . She has as much as right to judge and generalize like some of us do here.




@ bold- This i agree..I just expressed my opinion about how i don really think Sushmita is a woman of substance but that doesn't really take away her right to express her opinion..That way, no one would be entitled to talk about any subject cos most of us have our own flaws 😆 Its a different thing though when you talk/ preach about something which is in total conflict with your actions, ppl might end up judging you for being hypocritical & your opinion might not have the same weightage as someone who practices what they preach..For example, if Amitabh tomorrow gives a speech on the sanctity of marriage & fidelity, i'd totally roll my eyes 😆 But then again, in general, i agree with what you said..About how opinions shouldn't be dismissed just because of the choices you make..But you cant change the fact that ppl might obviously judge you for the same especially if you are a celeb..This has nothing to do with Sushmita here..Just a general statement 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: return_to_hades


Some of the comments in this thread highlight that women don't really have a choice at all. What is good for them, what will empower them is already decided.

If you are a woman, then follow the good girl plan. Do well in school and get highly educated. Get a prestigious job. Don't get distracted by boys and sex. Get married in time, have kids and then sacrifice everything for being a good wife and mother. Only then will you be free. Only then will you be empowered.

If you deviate from the route. If you choose to not do well, if your job is frivolous and dumb, if you have sex, if you drink, smoke, experiment with drugs, get piercings and tattoos, if you don't marry and remain true to your identity - then you have failed being a good Indian woman. You are a slave to bad influences. You will never be empowered.



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Posted: 10 years ago
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Generalising a country is different issue. I only questioned how does she epitomise woman empowerment?

She's a weak woman who still struggles to cope and is not accomplished in any way. A Neena Gupta lived life on her own terms, her daughter is illegitimate but she raised her with pride, gave her own surname. And she succeeded in theatre and television. She has contribution of significance unlike Sush whose only claim to fame is a beauty title.

She's the first failure who I have seen mentioned as icon of woman empowerment.

And again, who is she to clsim critics of video have no opinion of their own? If she will say that then what response she expects? Laddoos and a loud "yes" in unison?

Oh and she had to support the video word by word given the lifestyle she has. Fine. But no right to assume critics have no opinion of their own.

Why is individualism so selective here? One individual can say a whole section of people have no opinion of their own. Other individual cannot even counter that? Wah wah. 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: rogerrocks



@ bold- This i agree..I just expressed my opinion about how i don really think Sushmita is a woman of substance but that doesn't really take away her right to express her opinion..That way, no one would be entitled to talk about any subject cos most of us have our own flaws 😆 Its a different thing though when you talk/ preach about something which is in total conflict with your actions, ppl might end up judging you for being hypocritical & your opinion might not have the same weightage as someone who practices what they preach..For example, if Amitabh tomorrow gives a speech on the sanctity of marriage & fidelity, i'd totally roll my eyes 😆 But then again, in general, i agree with what you said..About how opinions shouldn't be dismissed just because of the choices you make..But you cant change the fact that ppl might obviously judge you for the same especially if you are a celeb..This has nothing to do with Sushmita here..Just a general statement 😆


Same. It is part of being public figure, they will forever be judged . Say if Hillary Clinton talks about women empowerment some might say she was a doormat to Bill for years, so she has no right to speak about it or play happy family act. Thats an opinion against her and might just be true for someone . But doesn't take away the fact that she has a right to speak on the issue. Or that she is a symbol for women empowerment for many for other reasons. Her staying in that marriage was a choice too- regressive for some, intelligent for others.😆

Similarly like you mentioned AB Sr, we might scoff at him but there are his blind fans who take him as family man, he has that brand value . They might buy whatever crap he says. It's all perceptions .We all generalize or act like hypocrites most of the time , it's another thing we just like to pretend otherwise.
Right or Wrong are abstract and subjective when it comes to morality specially. Judging is such a human trait anyway.
Edited by charminggenie - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#68
Claps and sympathies for Sush and DPad but chappals for Sridevi, Boney, Hema, Dharam, AB, Khans, PC etc. 😆

Some are empowered and others are obnoxious human beings. 🤔

Those who label celebs and their families in gossip threads and even speculate that a baby's grandfather might actually be her father, are hailing Sush and #MyChoice as empowerment and class.

Irony!

Y u not stop judging empowered icons in your long running goss threads?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: rogerrocks

Its true that the term home-wrecker is misogynistic but that doesn't change the fact that when a woman goes after another woman's partner/ husband ( especially when there are kids involved) knowing fully well that he is married/ committed, it reflects a lot about her character & the kind of person she is ( of course the guy is a douche for cheating on his wife, no denying that)..Has nothing to do with her gender here..And i don find such acts empowering/ progressive from any angle..So am not sure why Sushmita should be considered a woman of substance..Yes, she is articulate & talks sense but thats where it ends..



No her love life doesn't make her a woman of substance and progressive, but neither does her love life specifically negates it. That was my original point. I don't understand what her past relationships has to do with the topic at hand. But specifically, any woman who dares to adopt two children on her own in a highly conservative country and gives them family and love gets my respect. Her career might not be going places, and yes she might have some unhealthy habits, but none of that should take away from the content of what she said about equality and educating people.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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More dope on the so-called poster child for women empowerment Sushu ;)

so this woman has not only been around the block but she seems to have this never-ending affinity towards married men as well. Geez what's up with this woman's conscience? 🤢 i swear her actions speaks volumes about her moral compass(or lack of it) 🥱


Sush breaks up with boyfriend Manav?
Published: Thursday, December 21, 2006, 12:33 [IST]


Sushmita Sen's personal life seems to be going through a bad weather once again as her relationship with ad-film director Manav Menon is on the rocks. The Ex Miss Universe has been very frank about all her relationship, whether it is Vikram Bhatt, Sanjay Narang, Randeep Hooda or Manav Menon. The two, it is speculated haven't been seeing each other for the past three months. The relationship apparently was getting very difficult as Manav's wife left him to join her parents back in Pondicherry after learning about his alleged affair with Sush. Though there are many reason cited for the split, one possible reason could be Randeep, Sushmita's ex-boyfriend. Sushmita as we all have heard gives great importance to Renee, her adopted daughter. It is extremely important that Renee approves of the men in Sush's life, and Randeep was a big hit with Renee. Recently, for Sush's birthday on November 19th, Manav wanted to throw a grand party for his new love at a posh Bandra nightclub. Sush instead chose to be with her family and close friends. Randeep was also invited at the get together, which it is rumoured did not go well with the fiery tempered Manav. Sushmita is also very busy with her newly set up business in Kolkata, and was unable to give quality time to her boyfriend, who could soon be termed as 'EX'. Well, what can we except wish and hope that Sush soon finds her 'Mr Right', what say?

Read more at: http://www.filmibeat.com/bollywood/gupshup/2006/sushmita-sen-211206.html

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