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Posted: 10 years ago
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Subramaniun Swamy on twitter
" Who financed the PK film? According to my sources it is traceable to Dubai and ISI. DRI must investigate "


Supreme Court on PK: "If you don't like it, don't watch the movie"

Even LK Advani has said "PK is a wonderful and courageous film"

...and it is a very good film indeed.

It's just a freakin movie! same kinda thing happened with the Islamic religious nuts for the tamil movie - Viswaroopam. religious nuts gone wild!
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Posted: 10 years ago

Riots due to PK :
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Posted: 10 years ago
Lesson #3 is hilarious..given how Aamir ghost directs most of his movies..
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: return_to_hades


First point out which faith is referred to in my post and what you mean by other faiths.




I don't know if it is him, her or what.
I don't know if the creator is actually vested in the lives of mortals.
I don't want to be pretentious assuming the world is for us.
I reap the rewards of my hard work. I pay the price of my mistakes. I am the master of my fate. I am the captain of my soul.
I have no complaints or criticism of the creator. All my criticism is reserved for mortals.



Seek and you shall receive. If you delegate the seeking, you shall never receive either. Question. Observe. Experiment.


Why we need a third party to connect with our own creator baffles me. It is a personal relationship between one person and their God. I'm a firm believer in do-it-yourself.

PS: I am a heretic and iconoclast. I don't believe in mortal propaganda. Every question you asked, I've asked them already. 😆

I would love to see your criticism for other puny mortals from different faith as well. By now everyone knows more than enough on how you feel about pusy hindu gods and their puny mortals as you always call them as,lol

anyways...
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Posted: 10 years ago
I got the message that one should not believe in priests and should only believe in the creator God himself. I dint find any religion being targeted nor did the movie hurt anyone's sentiments but it only wanted one to stop believe in human Gods like babas and priests who claim to be messengers of God.

I have read many article and people have found fault with some dialogues and scenes.

One dialogue being "Jo darte hai woh mandir jaate hai" something like this. Well many people including me are God fearing. Sometimes it is believed that if one takes a mannat, he/she has to fulfill it else a bad omen may take place. Like this there are many beliefs which prove that many are God fearing but we should love God as our he has created us, not fear him believing that if we don't do something, God will punish us. We will get punished only for our sins and many believe that if one goes to a holy temple/church/mosque or any other holy place, their sins will be forgiven. It's not true as well.


Also, people said that then man in disguise of Shiva was shown to be scared of PK. It was an actor who was playing the character of Shiva God and not God himself. How can one consider that man to be lord Shiva? It's the same like believing in human Gods and I did not feel that there was anything wrong in this.


It's only my POV.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Gubbara.

I would love to see your criticism for other puny mortals from different faith as well. By now everyone knows more than enough on how you feel about pusy hindu gods and their puny mortals as you always call them as,lol

anyways...
Ms.IAmSomething
Ms.IMeMyself
OR
Ms.Tadkasuri

If you ever decide to change your name these are a few suggestions. My personal fav is the last one😆😆


I am a Hindu. I have deep reverence for the Gods and Goddesses of Hindu mythology. It speaks volumes of a belief systems that has survived millennia to be the oldest surviving major religion. They myths reflect a rich deep literary, sociological, cultural and moral history of the subcontinent. They serve as great guiding posts and reflecting points to several human quandaries.

My respect and reverence is personal though. My faith resides within myself. I see no need to make public displays of it, unless someone is genuinely curious to share. Most importantly, I am a puny mortal. In the grand scheme of things, I am as insignificant in the cosmos. No more relevant and powerful than a fart. Why the architect of the magnificent cosmos would need a puny mortal to fight on its behalf is beyond me? Why something deeply personal should be bothered by other fart noises baffles me? Why something that has transcended time needs people less than a fraction of its age preserve it is perplexing?

My Hindu faith and its culture is strong and sturdy. PK, nor anything else in the past or present has even scratched it. All it has done is expose the puny mortals who dare claim to have the strength and calling to defend/represent God and faith. Bloody liars and cheats all.

And all I can assume when people get their panties in a bunch and go all batshit crazy about religion is that they must be laying their faith to pussy ass Gods and Goddesses who are so weak and fragile that they need puny mortals to defend them. Mine clearly don't.

Since you are such a beggar for shits and giggle, I dig up some more infamous blasphemy for self promotion. 😆 I hope I don't open one dangerous can of worms again.





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Posted: 10 years ago
^^^ RTH seems right on the money,..

I have seen the forums,. where the top-seed, top-notch highly intelligence members ( all docs and IITs ) are the highest of the high, I ever saw on any other forums so far,.
and they also dicuss the same when it comes to PK,.. that No Hindu religion insult is served there.

Read few intelligents here,..to whom I rely,. as much as I rely on RTH here and ashdoc,... ( google search him,.. for ' ashdoc's movie reviews ' )

http://www.r2iclubforums.com/forums/showthread.php/36845-MT-Movie-talk-and-Reviews-2-0/page5

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=383356&page=221
[ ^ use screen and pass as : saturn10, 789123 ]




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So I saw PK.

How was it?

TLDR: It's a three-hour long episode of Satyamev Jayate.

For those of you who have not seen this program, which strongly makes me believe that you are not the kind that stops at a stop sign, Satyamev Jayate can be summarized as "social activism for those of us that like to watch Big Boss but feel guilty ". It picks a certain "problem of the week", like police reforms or corruption or doctors, and then runs through an hour of over-explaining and music and appropriately emotioned-up guests. The USP of the program, the reason why people watch it, is of course Method-Actor Khan (known to mortals as Aamir Khan) for whom Satyamev Jayate is a perfect prop for his carefully cultivated image as a socially conscientious superstar. Cycling through various expressions, "the-oh-my-God-I-had-no-idea" ("Apko police ne yeh kaha?") as if he is hearing the guest's story for the first time, "the-oh-my-God-I-so-feel-for-you" eyes-welling-up-with-tasteful-tears, Mr. Khan straddles perfectly that grey area between reality and choreography, between the person and the persona, and if the topic of the week does not keep you watching, or that sharp prick on your conscience if your finger goes to the remote control to change the channel, Aamir Khan's performance sure does.

Like Satyamev Jayate, PK too has a "problem of the week", long passages of preachy exposition, poking-in-eye messaging, and each one of Aamir Khan's Satyamev Jayate stock facial expressions. Except being an alien, his innocent "I-had-no-idea" face makes a little more sense, though for old-hands like us, there is a bit too much of the Main Kahaan Hoon Tiloo from "Andaz Apna Apna" and one of the characters he played in Dhoom 3, for me to be overtly blown away by the acting. Just as Satyamev Jayate, despite its flaws, is an improvement on the brainless muck that passes for entertainment on Indian television, PK is definitely better than the "Bang Bangs" and the "Ready"s, a low bar surely, somewhat like complimenting a fast bowler for bowling faster than Venkatesh Prasad.

It had a lot going for it, like Mr. Perfectionist's perfect derriere, though obfuscated by mist, Raju Hirani at the helm, and some funny sequences involving pee-ing, peek-ing, peekaying and anal-probing, which I would perhaps have better appreciated if I was nine years old

However it is let down by two major cinematic boo-boos.


First the climax was so god-awful that it made the baby-delivered-by-vacuum-cleaner in Three Idiots seem kind of okay.

And second, Raju Hirani becomes so focussed on the agenda, the moral at the end, that rather than let the story deliver the message, he had the message write the story. As a result there is a really weak narrative and absolutely zero chemistry between the characters, nothing like the way there was between say Munnabhai and Circuit. Instead of story and memorable characters, there are lengthy lectures facing the camera, extremely contrived situations, and possibly the most-rushed-romantic-tale I can remember, between Anushka Sharma and Sushant Singh Rajput, reminding one of the Ravi Behl-Divya Dutta romance in "Agnisakshi", scurried primarily because the only reason it existed was to establish the message.

The basic problem I believe is that Raju Hirani is way out of his depth in PK, biting off way more than he can chew. To be fair, it is extremely difficult to make a movie that is anti-organized-religion without coming down inordinately on one religion, and unless you are willing to go fully "equal opportunities offender" like Maher in Religulous, which again is a very difficult thing to do in a fictional setting, treading carefully is a must.

Unfortunately Hirani is as subtle as a sledgehammer, a deft touch he doth not have.

Not that I believe Hirani has an insidious bias or that PK is part of a global anti-Hindu conspiracy, which you would believe if you followed the boycottPK loony hashtag, but it is true that Hirani exclusively ends up using Hindu religious practices as his pincushion. Sure, there are throwaway blink-and-miss-it references to Christian conversions and Muslims treatment of their own women, but the focus remains firmly on the Hindu faith. It's the man dressed as a Hindu God who runs like a coward, it's the Hindu Gods who stand ghoul-like silent as PK prays in front of them, which happens to be the most powerful scene of the movie. The villain is a fake baba, a supposed anthropomorphism of everything-that-is-wrong-with-religion, except that he ends up as a stand-in for only Hinduism. If it was just one character, it would be still fine, but then there is another Hindu priest who is shown as a glorified pick-pocket, taking away Anushka's wallet in a way that is more like a hood in a dark alley than a man of God. No other religion has their people in authority get consistently poor treatment.

The explanation for that, I believe, and here is the supreme irony, is fear. Like most people with a bit of common sense, Hirani knows that depicting a maulvi as a money-grabbing goonda would lead to consequences more dire than the mild controversy that is brought on about by social-media outrage or the isolated court-case they have more than enough resources to fight, both of which incidentally are good for the movie publicity-wise. Hirani's consciousness of "those who must not be angered" is perhaps most evident when PK, the alien, puts up signs of different Hindu Gods on a wall and, if I am not totally wrong there was also a picture of Jesus, but even PK knows, from news that might have reached him billions of light years away, that forget pictures there are some depictions of deities you do not put on walls, if you want to keep your head on your shoulders. In that context of fear, the rather provocative line "Jo Dar Gya Woh Mandir Gya" becomes ironic, almost as ironic as an actor convicted of Jihadi terrorism in real life being blown up by a Jihadi bomb on screen.

Personally, I loved the message of PK, mainly because being a non-observant agnostic with a healthy dislike for rituals and organized religion, I agree with what the movie is trying to say. The problem is how they say it, preachy, uneven, hammy and amateurish.

And while a lack of balance may be forgiven or even blatant bias (for are we not all biased), sophomoric film-making cannot be.

Disappointing.
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Posted: 10 years ago
So Aamir khan performs 'stoning the devil' ritual during Hajj but bashes Hindu rituals in PK!


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Ahmedabad Bhopal PK riots !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G-x4yUo1nAc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7rBnwrZAfw&feature=player_embedded

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