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krackjack

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Posted: 10 years ago

#131

Originally posted by: Quixotic5

Nope.. but is it to say that by singling out Hinduism 'a comparatively peaceful religion' & tactfully avoiding some of the problematic religions & their teachings (as seems to be the case here) is indeed justified ??... And please nobody here is asking for "glorifying" Hinduism & as a Hindu i am least bothered with such "glorification" , i know very well what i stand for , i dont need PK's stamp of approval for that.. 😆..but if i get a whiff of my beliefs being mocked , dont expect me to just standby..lol.. and most if not all of my replies are purely based on the posts here , i have absolutely nothing against PK whatsoever at this point..

See...First of all, the movie doesn't mock or target Hinduism. It speaks about the mockery it has become in the hands of pseudo self-proclaimed babas who feed on people's fears and insecurities. It doesn't say the temples are filled with people who are scared to death. It says how fear sometimes makes an individual a puppet in the hands of some idiots who rub their hands in glee and are forever ready to take advantage of such fears. It's not about the religion per se, It's more about the false interpretations which do no good to anybody.

Regarding why Hinduism and all such stuff... A film-maker picked a particular subject that would be more familiar to the majority of audience. The same way, in 3 idiots he chose Engineering, not journalism. However he mentions other religions as well but the focus was on the God-man who steals his remote control and claims its a souvenir of God or something. We should stop obsessing over this question...why not Islam . 🤪 I repeat, this movie doesn't target a religion. It targets the mockery it has become these days. A film maker chose one aspect of it and showed it. Nothing to be offended about.

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Posted: 10 years ago

#132

Originally posted by: krackjack

See...First of all, the movie doesn't mock or target Hinduism. It speaks about the mockery it has become in the hands of pseudo self-proclaimed babas who feed on people's fears and insecurities. It doesn't say the temples are filled with people who are scared to death. It says how fear sometimes makes an individual a puppet in the hands of some idiots who rub their hands in glee and are forever ready to take advantage of such fears. It's not about the religion per se, It's more about the false interpretations which do no good to anybody.

Regarding why Hinduism and all such stuff... A film-maker picked a particular subject that would be more familiar to the majority of audience. The same way, in 3 idiots he chose Engineering, not journalism. However he mentions other religions as well but the focus was on the God-man who steals his remote control and claims its a souvenir of God or something. We should stop obsessing over this question...why not Islam . 🤪 I repeat, this movie doesn't target a religion. It targets the mockery it has become these days. A film maker chose one aspect of it and showed it. Nothing to be offended about.

First things first , i must request you to read my post & then go all " 🤪" .. i think i have made it pretty clear that i have no problems whatsoever with PK , i am convinced ( even without watching the movie ) that it is in no way offensive to Hinduism or any other religion for that matters .. my reply to the previous member in the above quoted was purely based on her post & all thismahagyan was unnecessary & totally uncalled for.. I am convinced that PK's social , critical & commercial success is undeniable & i am happy about it but the same cannot be said about some of the misleading posts here ..hope you get it now..

@ red : yup i was pretty much convinced about it already..

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krackjack

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Posted: 10 years ago

#133

This is the second time where I'm giving my two cents urf maha gyaan about this movie in this thread. But have been tired reading 'why only hinduism' posts for like past one week. The same way you are tired of reading all the gyaan sessions by members defending this movie.

P.S. " 🤪 " 😆

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Posted: 10 years ago

#134

Originally posted by: krackjack
This is the second time where I'm giving my two cents urf maha gyaan about this movie in this thread. But have been tired reading 'why only hinduism' posts for like past one week. The same way you are tired of reading all the gyaan sessions by members defending this movie.

P.S. " 🤪 " 😆

😆 😆

Alright then , you wanna know why "why only Hinduism" ??.. ok let me try, although i must warn you that my logic could be SERIOUSLY flawed as i am yet to watch the film & my conclusions are derived from what i have read so far in this forum.. in your previous post , you said something like Hinduism is the subject of this film , just as Journalism or Engineering Education or Education are the subjects of certain other films , i agree , in fact thats how i justified it myself , not on this forum but thats how i thought about it .. however, it seems that the film makers did not keep their message restricted to just one religion as it applies to all the religions , few members even came up with certain instances of Islam & Christianity being highlighted in the film , so i certainly can take the liberty to assume that the filmmakers did flirt with the subject of issues in other religions but refrained from pointing out the major issues in it for reasons best known to them & concentrated majorly on Hinduism .. reasons could be many ,ranging from time constraints to sheer lack of balls.. and i believe thats where the issue has its roots in , i for one would have been thrilled if the film asked Islam followers to not look down upon people from other religions just because their sacred text asks them to do so directly or indirectly .. now that being said , i really really dont mind that they took keen interest in Hinduism , its only going to help people to follow the religion in a proper manner as it was meant to be, so why should i complain ?.. i am happy with it & intend to watch the film as soon as possible.. 😃

P.S..Feel Free To Go Nuts ! 🤪

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Nikita Lakhe

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Posted: 10 years ago

#135

If you want to make a film against malpractices, you will obviously want to choose those examples which are widespread, about whom people know and have themselves discussed. That would make it easier for them to strike a chord and gain support or make a point.
Hence, the examples choosen were
Godmen in case of Hindus, fatwas and suppressing girls rights in case of Muslims, conversion in Christianity and so on. In Bhagwan Kahan hai tu song, while on one hand they showed him rolling on the floor doing gulati as devotion, they also showed him all bloody during Moharram. Point was same- does God want this from us?
People are saying that Hinduism was shown as bad and Islam or only Muslims were shown in good light, well, the gravest harm due to religion, much much grave than rituals and looting, was shown to be done by an Islamic terrorist group to protect their God. Again, this was not an attempt to attack Islam or muslims, they pretty much made their stand clear by saying not every Muslim is bad, but this example was chosen bcos it is what we see around us today and something the world is facing at large.
There might be other malpractices but how much can you shove in one film, especially something like spitting in water or whatever, I don't even know of it. They used examples that were widely known to make their point.
And there was nothing humiliating in that Lord Shiva incident. He was NOT Lord Shiva himself, he was an ACTOR, or a person dressed to perform like him. It was only a funny sequence meant to show how naive PK is that he is thinking the actor is same as Lord Shiva himself.

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Posted: 10 years ago

#136

Originally posted by: LifeOLicious

Lol!! In the same boat here. I enjoyed seeing it on screen and a theater full of people enjoying the very things thst bothered me about organized religion since I learned how to think. I hope ppl who are blind faith followers see the film and question themselves. I have a feeling the most blinded ones will choose to keep their eyes closed and still say my religion is better than yours.

Yeah, me too. I could relate to it on so many levels. It's like the same questions I have been asking since childhood were being asked by PK.😆 I thought it was genius. It was told in such a simple, funny manner that even the most obtuse person will go hmmm. Same here. I really hope it changes the mindsets of zealots in some way...even if it is 1%. I know it is too much to ask for but this film has immense repeat value. So I am hoping it works to a certain extent. South Asian societies definitely need films like these.

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firework

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Posted: 10 years ago

#137

So the film is wrong because it *targets* Hinduism more than other religions and it should target other religions too to prove its point.

... wokay!

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983175

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Posted: 10 years ago

#138

Originally posted by: Decider
I'm a Hindu and I give a darn about Hinduism. And about any other religion for that matter.
If you love god just love god. Don't create groups like Hindu, Muslim and have parties in the name of God. These religious groups are all circus. All festivals are to have fun and do masti in the name of god. These religious groups are as polluted as any political party. You cant find God as a group. Its all about individual.

And a more important question that people should think about will be what actually is god? Blind faith in god is stupidity because not applying your intelligence is stupidity. Always. Because at the end of the day only thing that exists is intelligence. If god does exist then he is also a form of intelligence albeit a much more superior kind.

@ bold : So True !! .. the best example here is Ganapati Utsav in Maharashtra .. these social traditions were started with an intention to bring the society together, but nowadays it is serving the exact opposite purpose.. each Mandal is governed by tapori groups/ political parties masquerading as hotblooded religious youth who are ready to cause public life disruption at the drop of a hat ! ..they even have a peculiar way to ask for donation 🥱..horrible doesnt even begin to cover it & then there is the sight of these very hotblooded religious youth drunk dancing in Ganapati Mandir with the background score of Munni Badnaam Hui during the culmination of such festivals 🤢.. the major Utsavs are now power play of tapori politics instead of bhakti or societal well being.. its sad , really really sad..hope people change for better..

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AllBlacks1

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Posted: 10 years ago

#139

So then we have all watched different versions of a movie called PK? One group says It has targeted Hinduism coz India is predominantly Hindu Country... and the other group says it has targated ALL religions.

There in lies the problem. The makers tried to do go beyond what their reach is. If u want to bring all religions that exists in India, then do justice to all malpractices of those religions, dont single out one religion. If u cant do that then just let let alien have exp. with only one religion.

When u bring other religions and single out only one to make a mockery, thats insulting. I have watched many HW movies where they question Cristianity. But not in comaparisions to put it down against other religions.

My question still goes unanswered. The posters Aamir sticking of Hindu Devi-devtas saying "lapata (missing) , it wud take one more minute to stich posters of "Allha-missing, Mohammad- missing, Budha- missing, Jesus- missing, Guru Nanak- missing"... That wud have covered all religions that matter to India. Wud Hirani-Aamir have guts to do that???????????

As I said b4.. Hinduism always ask questions.. be it BW or Godmen. Its such a vast religion of different philosophies that u can get confused and u HAVE to use ur brains to chose which path u wanna take.

I blv in Gayatri Parivar where "Maa Gayatri" is a supreme God(des). Women r pundits in that sect. Women r respected more than men. And therez one other sect where women r just object of sex and henceforth they r being seated saperatly to men and their swamiji dont even look at women's faces.. coz they can arouse their f**king penis.. how pathetic is that? How can u call saint when u have doubt abt ur sexual control? These so- called idot swamijis go all around world, to teach us poor NRIs abt our Dharma, yeah.. on airport check-in, check-out.. there r mstly women.. 😆 This sect is called "Swaminarayan"... they have huge temple in London.. and all around world... Sooner or later they will out of Hinduism.

BW have always braught Hindu religion... be it " hero/heroine starts pleading- plz help me and the bells start ringing so that God accepted the plea... or blaming God for whats going wrong in their lives"... no qualm no questions.. its all cheesy.

But, PK raises serious questions.. and its very much on Hinduism only. Fraud baba is not good.. what abt Osama or Dawood? Do not not single out one religion when compared with others.

On a light note, if I talk abt Khans here, ppl start mocking HR coz i m HR fans... thats what happens comparisions take place.

And Bo numbers says Hinduism is progressive and tolerant society as it has always been for 5000 years. 😊

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Her-mion-e

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Posted: 10 years ago

#140

Originally posted by: Quixotic5

Nope.. but is it to say that by singling out Hinduism 'a comparatively peaceful religion' & tactfully avoiding some of the problematic religions & their teachings (as seems to be the case here) is indeed justified ??... And please nobody here is asking for "glorifying" Hinduism & as a Hindu i am least bothered with such "glorification" , i know very well what i stand for , i dont need PK's stamp of approval for that.. 😆..but if i get a whiff of my beliefs being mocked , dont expect me to just standby..lol.. and most if not all of my replies are purely based on the posts here , i have absolutely nothing against PK whatsoever at this point..

Keeping the movie aside since you have clearly stated that you have nothing against PK...

Have you ever stood up for the wrong practices for your religion like the way you are standing up for singling out Hinduism when everyone knows this is comparatively tolerant religion??

Or do we choose to ignore the bad blood in our religion because we give ourselves consolation that this is lesser evil?

Of course who needs PKs stamp for approval??? I'm a proud hindu too not only because it has got many good practices but also for the fact that I can question my religion if I feel something is not correct...So I feel very happy that if at least 1% of Hindu thinks differently because of this movie it would be a great achievement..

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